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    The Yuezhi were an ancient people first described in Chinese histories as nomadic pastoralists living in an arid grassland area in the western part of the modern Chinese province of Gansu, during the 1st millennium BC. After a major defeat at the hands of the Xiongnu in 176 BC, the Yuezhi split into two groups migrating in different directions: the Greater Yuezhi and Lesser Yuezhi.

    The Greater Yuezhi initially migrated northwest into the Ili Valley (on the modern borders of China and Kazakhstan), where they reportedly displaced elements of the Sakas. They were driven from the Ili Valley by the Wusun and migrated southward to Sogdia and later settled in Bactria. The Greater Yuezhi have consequently often been identified with peoples mentioned in classical European sources as having overrun the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom. During the 1st century BC, one of the five major Greater Yuezhi tribes in Bactria, the Kushanas, began to subsume the other tribes and neighbouring peoples. The subsequent Kushan Empire, at its peak in the 3rd century AD, stretched from Turfan in the Tarim Basin in the north to Pataliputra on the Gangetic plain of India in the south. The Kushanas played an important role in the development of trade on the Silk Road and the introduction of Buddhism to China.

    The Lesser Yuezhi migrated southward to the edge of the Tibetan Plateau.

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    Are there actual Toch-Aryan samples available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Are there actual Toch-Aryan samples available?
    Based on their Y-DNA, they seem to be native remnants of WSHG.

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    Would like to see comparison to ANE, as the Tarim Basim corpses were about 70% ANE.

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    From Wikipedia:
    From the site of Xiaohe: nearly all (11 out of 12 - or around 92%) of surveyed paternal lines are of West Eurasian haplogroup R1a1, and one is of exceptionally rare basal paragroup K*.

    According to a comment posted on 18 July 2014 by Hui Zhou, one of study's co-authors, the Xiaohe R1a1 lineages belonged to a specifically European branch rather than the more common Central Asian R-Z93.
    Lol! This is all R1b-PH155.

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    My closest Tangbalesayi sample vs Modern Pop Ave: (I get a big chunk, about 8%, of this one on properly done modern&ancient calcs):

    Distance to: China_Xinjiang_Tangbalesayi_LBA_Andronovo:C1714.SG
    0.07674238 Swedish
    0.07823515 Norwegian
    0.07969448 Finnish_Southeast
    0.08047227 Icelandic
    0.08053718 Danish
    0.08145179 Shetlandic
    0.08221633 Irish
    0.08331975 German_Hamburg
    0.08370246 Ingrian
    0.08374233 Scottish
    0.08387172 Finnish_Central
    0.08466650 Dutch
    0.08569812 Erzya
    0.08597647 Moldovan_o
    0.08606991 Moksha
    0.08644440 Finnish_East
    0.08677085 Russian_Kostroma
    0.08718675 Russian_Ryazan
    0.08720223 Slovakian
    0.08749000 Cossack_Kuban
    0.08784500 Russian_Tver
    0.08831273 Welsh
    0.08845340 English
    0.08858893 Finnish_Southwest
    0.08862471 Czech


    and, vs Ancient Pop Ave:

    Distance to: China_Xinjiang_Tangbalesayi_LBA_Andronovo:C1714.SG
    0.01060288 CHN_Tangbalesayi_LBA
    0.02424651 CHN_Kuokesuxi_LBA
    0.02587171 KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA
    0.02691802 KAZ_Shoendykol_MLBA_Fedorovo
    0.02695728 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    0.02756781 BGR_MLBA
    0.02815370 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA
    0.02938432 KAZ_Bylkyldak_MLBA
    0.02957091 KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA
    0.02994158 UZB_Kokcha_BA
    0.02996316 KAZ_Karagash_MLBA
    0.03021805 UZB_Kashkarchi_BA
    0.03077510 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA
    0.03120456 TJK_Dashti_Kozy_BA
    0.03212542 Corded_Ware_POL
    0.03264213 KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul
    0.03295603 Corded_Ware_CZE_early
    0.03295714 KAZ_Kyzlbulak_MLBA1
    0.03324350 RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA
    0.03359195 RUS_Fatyanovo_Moscow_BA
    0.03368863 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
    0.03426468 KAZ_Chanchar_LBA
    0.03435644 Corded_Ware_CZE_late
    0.03458374 RUS_Fatyanovo_Yaroslavl_BA
    0.03502183 CHN_Wutulan_LBA2

    to Iron Age:

    Distance to: China_Xinjiang_Tangbalesayi_LBA_Andronovo:C1714.SG
    0.06633067 England_LIA:I14096
    0.06742305 Scotland_LIA:I16495
    0.06778657 Scotland_LIA:I3567
    0.06812392 England_MIA_LIA:I13616
    0.06850510 England_MIA_LIA:I20621
    0.06984653 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I5503
    0.07144693 England_MIA_LIA:I12790
    0.07217935 England_MIA_LIA:I16458
    0.07276023 Netherlands_LIA:I17750
    0.07413088 England_LIA:I14097
    0.07420859 Scotland_LIA:I27384
    0.07444132 Scotland_LIA:I3566
    0.07588831 England_LIA:I12931
    0.07607225 Netherlands_EIA:I12905
    0.07712204 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I14102
    0.07737212 Scotland_LIA:I27385
    0.07783598 England_MIA_LIA:I19657
    0.07810915 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I12414
    0.07840401 England_LIA:I11144
    0.07844522 England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I13753
    0.07850682 England_MIA_LIA:I20631
    0.07890377 England_EIA:I11995
    0.07948820 England_EIA:I13682
    0.07976576 England_LIA:I14351
    0.07987118 Scotland_EIA:I2692
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    My closest Tangbalesayi sample vs Modern Pop Ave: (I get a big chunk, about 8%, of this one on properly done modern&ancient calcs):
    Cool!

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    Iron Age inhabitants of Xinjiang were clearly not a (fully) Caucasoid population. They mostly resembled the Bashkirs.


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    qpAdm for Shirenzigou IA (East Dzungaria)

    China_IA.SG

    Kazakhstan_CentralSaka.SG: 66.7 +- 4.9
    Nepal_Chokhopani_2700BP.SG: 17 +- 1.9
    Kyrgyzstan_BA_Aygirdjal: 16.3 +- 3.4
    chisq: 7.6
    tailprob: 0.368

    https://pastebin.com/CcybsqUb


    Last edited by axlredneck; 05-26-2024 at 11:22 AM.

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