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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
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    0.41992582 North_Africa_Epipaleolithic
    0.54325010 Siberian_Hunter_Gatherer
    0.66370861 Amerindian
    0.77549443 Yoruba
    Why are you closer to North Africa, Siberian, Amerindian and Yoruba if you are Polish??!

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    0.55631025 Siberian_Hunter_Gatherer
    0.67613716 Amerindian
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    This is even an interesting question. From what I can see in the three-dimensional format, it is German shift.

    Last edited by cass; 08-27-2024 at 11:07 AM.

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    Target: JingleBell_Dad_scaled
    Distance: 1.1877% / 0.01187695
    35.8 Yoruba
    25.2 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmers
    23.2 Early_Bronze_Age_Europe_Indoeuropean
    5.6 Amerindian
    3.8 Levant_Epipaleolithic
    3.0 Western_European_Hunter_Gatherer
    1.8 Zagros_Neolithic_Farmers
    1.2 North_Africa_Epipaleolithic
    0.4 Siberian_Hunter_Gatherer

    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 2.0706% / 0.02070597
    44.4 Yoruba
    21.4 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmers
    17.4 Early_Bronze_Age_Europe_Indoeuropean
    4.6 Western_European_Hunter_Gatherer
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    2.8 North_Africa_Epipaleolithic
    2.8 Zagros_Neolithic_Farmers
    2.6 Amerindian

    I will never understand why we score so much WHG and so much MENA
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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
    This is even an interesting question. From what I can see in the three-dimensional format, it is German shift.

    Just WHG+ EEF combo will win everytime (or combined with very high Baltic). The problem is in southernmost Europe, usually it comes with "something else" that make these increased distances vanish but there are probably areas just north of the mediterranean countries who might check all the boxes, without adding too much East Asian, since of course with that you only increase the African distance but reduces the rest.
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    Target: tk'es_scaled
    Distance: 4.7479% / 0.04747852
    41.4 Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer
    28.8 Early_Bronze_Age_Europe_Indoeuropean
    17.2 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmers
    7.6 Levant_Epipaleolithic
    4.6 Siberian_Hunter_Gatherer
    0.4 Zagros_Neolithic_Farmers



    Target: tk'es_scaled
    Distance: 8.1667% / 0.08166694 | ADC: 2x RC
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    Target: MV_scaled
    Distance: 2.4542% / 0.02454190
    43.0 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmers
    42.8 Early_Bronze_Age_Europe_Indoeuropean
    9.0 North_Africa_Epipaleolithic
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    Probably inflated north african and reduced WHG

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    Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
    Distance: 5.0280% / 0.05027959
    64.8 Early_Bronze_Age_Europe_Indoeuropean
    19.0 Eastern_European_Hunter_Gatherer
    16.2 Anatolia_Neolithic_Farmers

    Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(DNAGenics)
    Distance: 4.8418% / 0.04841837
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upsilander View Post
    Just WHG+ EEF combo will win everytime (or combined with very high Baltic). The problem is in southernmost Europe, usually it comes with "something else" that make these increased distances vanish but there are probably areas just north of the mediterranean countries who might check all the boxes, without adding too much East Asian, since of course with that you only increase the African distance but reduces the rest.
    If you add up all the distances except EEF, IE, WHG, EHG, then the oldest populations are the Balts, Sardinians and Basques. The least incumbent are, of course, the Roma and the Tatars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
    If you add up all the distances except EEF, IE, WHG, EHG, then the oldest populations are the Balts, Sardinians and Basques. The least incumbent are, of course, the Roma and the Tatars.
    I don't get all the meaning of your sentence but i imagine what the calculation was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upsilander View Post
    I don't get all the meaning of your sentence but i imagine what the calculation was.
    That's good. It seems that such a result is also visible on this map of autosomal clusters.

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