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    Quote Originally Posted by Upsilander View Post
    All good now. Seems like a pass

    I ran some Assyrian samples and about half passed, some that did not were very close to. It was surprising. I would like to hear more about you region or if it's an isolated community if you want in pm. Very interesting that you got so high distances, in particular to East Asian and Amerindian!
    My family originated from the Hakkari region of Eastern Turkey.
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    Distance to: Pedro_scaled
    0.59179834 Amerindian_Native
    0.60296572 East_Asian
    0.73192602 African_Nigerian
    0.80685722 Oceanian_Papuan

    Distance to: Dad_scaled
    0.59223554 Amerindian_Native
    0.59890033 East_Asian
    0.72577870 African_Nigerian
    0.80332321 Oceanian_Papuan

    Distance to: Mom_scaled
    0.59691619 Amerindian_Native
    0.60890596 East_Asian
    0.73978084 African_Nigerian
    0.79976103 Oceanian_Papuan
    Target: Pedro_scaled
    Distance: 0.6354% / 0.00635357
    54.2% Iberia
    21.6% Scotland
    12.4% North Africa (Tunisian Berber)
    8.6% Italia (Lazio)
    2.4% West Africa (Gambian)
    0.8% South America (Amerindian Caribe)

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    didnt pass

    Distance to: Svetozar_scaled
    0.55387465 East_Asian
    0.55503726 Amerindian_Native
    0.74098876 African_Nigerian
    0.76648098 Oceanian_Papuan
    Target: Svetozar_scaled
    Distance: 1.4868% / 0.01486794
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upsilander View Post
    All good now. Seems like a pass

    I ran some Assyrian samples and about half passed, some that did not were very close to. It was surprising. I would like to hear more about you region or if it's an isolated community if you want in pm. Very interesting that you got so high distances, in particular to East Asian and Amerindian!
    I don't know if it has anything to do with my score, but both of my haplogroups (My Y-haplo is R1b-L23-L277.1 and mTDNA is H4) are of West Eurasian origin and my autosomal is 100% North West Asian.

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    Distance to: MV_scaled
    0.59956550 Amerindian_Native
    0.61095067 East_Asian
    0.74860220 African_Nigerian
    0.80290150 Oceanian_Papuan

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    Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
    0.59647800 Amerindian_Native
    0.61356753 East_Asian
    0.77652824 African_Nigerian
    0.81280753 Oceanian_Papuan

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinshen View Post
    I don't know if it has anything to do with my score, but both of my haplogroups (My Y-haplo is R1b-L23-L277.1 and mTDNA is H4) are of West Eurasian origin and my autosomal is 100% North West Asian.
    It's possible if you guys managed to remain that isolated for thousands of years. After seeing yours and some of the people's results, if i was a geneticist, i would pack my bags right now and try to uncover ancients DNA in your region! I would look around eastern Anatolia for sure to see what else can be found in this location, that looks breathtaking by the way.


    Because look at this bad boy hunter-gatherer from 15 500 years ago in west Anatolia: Mr Pinarbasi

    Code:
    Distance to:	Turkey_Epipaleolithic: Pinarbasi__BC_13461__Cov_73.74%
    0.64092498	East_Asian
    0.65288030	Amerindian_Native
    0.78102754	African_Nigerian
    0.83218258	Oceanian_Papuan

    He laughs at my passing standards, that we ironically already had to lower for "north Europeans"

    There was likely an eastern flavor of it, possibly you dodged most of what came later in what is now Turkey. So very fascinating.




    Some very late Magdalenian are also impressive in Europe like Oberkassel:

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    Distance to:	Germany_Late_Magdalenian_Oberkassel:OKL001.A0101__BC_11995__Cov_63.43%
    0.70085391	Amerindian_Native
    0.71696876	East_Asian
    0.86180128	African_Nigerian
    0.87924881	Oceanian_Papuan


    The unbeatable champions at this game will always remain the Mesolithic proper like the Swiss Bichon (perfect coverage too):

    Code:
    Distance to:	Switzerland_Bichon:Bichon.SG__BC_11748__Cov_99.08%
    0.83814291	Amerindian_Native
    0.84905426	East_Asian
    0.97727826	African_Nigerian
    0.99448320	Oceanian_Papuan

    I think my slight bump in distances actually comes from a tiny increase in ancestry from these particular Bichon HG. I noticed this pattern in my samples for some individuals in the area.




    But it begs the question, who brought us all down if both the mesolithic and the neolithic descendants of Pinarbasi were that distant... There are several reasons, the main one, people are not ready to know the answer.
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    A few more at the extremity of Europe or outside


    Distance to: Palestinian
    0.59643394 East_Asian
    0.60436737 Amerindian_Native
    0.70047498 African_Nigerian
    0.79339653 Oceanian_Papuan


    Distance to: Pashtun_North_Afghanistan
    0.51274282 East_Asian
    0.51538035 Amerindian_Native
    0.73232808 African_Nigerian
    0.74811081 Oceanian_Papuan




    Distance to: Maltese
    0.47455363 East_Asian
    0.49796122 Amerindian_Native
    0.65052615 African_Nigerian
    0.73430988 Oceanian_Papuan




    Westernmost Armenians (Ararat) pass!

    Distance to: Armenian_Ararat
    0.60418307 East_Asian
    0.60745174 Amerindian_Native
    0.75387139 African_Nigerian
    0.80139968 Oceanian_Papuan



    Average Greek and Portugueses pass

    Distance to: Greek
    0.60835331 East_Asian
    0.60903303 Amerindian_Native
    0.75532616 African_Nigerian
    0.80604006 Oceanian_Papuan


    Distance to: Portuguese
    0.60051189 Amerindian_Native
    0.60819840 East_Asian
    0.75221113 African_Nigerian
    0.80621035 Oceanian_Papuan

    Main reason some Iberians will be borderline is Taforalt, as it had signficant SSA and that translates very clearly in distance, even with just a tiny bit of it, this bring down distance quickly. Of course harboring SSA increases the other distances, it's a communicating vessel, that's why you have to clear all 4.

    Distance to: Taforalt
    0.56641087 African_Nigerian
    0.66664721 East_Asian
    0.68669421 Amerindian_Native
    0.83033829 Oceanian_Papuan



    Sardinian, very easy pass

    Distance to: Sardinian
    0.63201006 East_Asian
    0.63952191 Amerindian_Native
    0.77692648 African_Nigerian
    0.82146981 Oceanian_Papuan



    But not Sicilians (very close though)

    Distance to: Sicilian
    0.60418972 Amerindian_Native
    0.60518856 East_Asian
    0.74625845 African_Nigerian
    0.80283315 Oceanian_Papuan




    Some Russians and Finns fail at the Amerindian and East Asian, so it's debatable if the threshold is too high on that but i would say below 60 East Asian you have to have really substantial Siberian or else, because it shouldn't be that related to Koreans and Japaneses but obviously still is to some extent.

    Distance to: Russian_Ryazan
    0.57020466 Amerindian_Native
    0.59083089 East_Asian

    0.77192988 African_Nigerian
    0.80191764 Oceanian_Papuan
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    Quote Originally Posted by nittionia View Post
    omg

    Distance to: nittionia_scaled
    0.58349832 Amerindian_Native
    0.60157755 East_Asian
    0.77252459 African_Nigerian
    0.80492432 Oceanian_Papuan
    We match almost exactly on each:

    Distance to: SC_Official_AveragedG25_Scaled
    0.58264823 Amerindian_Native
    0.60466779 East_Asian
    0.77055697 African_Nigerian
    0.80178503 Oceanian_Papuan
    Target: SC_Ave_IllustrativeDNA
    Distance: 1.9100% / 0.01910033 | ADC: 1x RC
    44.6 Scottish_North-Highlands
    28.0 Dutch_Groningen
    27.4 Polish_Upper_Silesia

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    Distance to: Kostek_scaled
    0.59101645 Amerindian_Native
    0.61319034 East_Asian
    0.77081466 African_Nigerian
    0.81556377 Oceanian_Papuan

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