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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Is grandpa from a different region of Poland than you?
    He's from Ukraine, actually. His family comes from Kopyczyńce powiat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Since you are NW Euro, I have a model you can try out. Steppe/MN farmer/excess HG. It works well because these the relevant proximate ''ancestral'' sources.

    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 2.5685% / 0.02568492
    61.2 Early_CW
    33.8 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
    5.0 TRB_HG
    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 1.8468% / 0.01846772
    49.0 Early_CW
    45.2 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
    5.8 Early_CWNL001__BC_2893__Cov_53.89%


    By the way, using my best merged data file IllustrativeDNA puts my top modern closest distance as:

    Dutch 1.720
    Orcadian 1.758
    German 1.805
    Irish 1.810
    Scottish 1.832
    Norwegian 1.892
    Welsh 1.895
    Danish 1.918
    English (Kent) 1.932
    White American (Utah) 1.987

    No Swedish, yet I'm 50% Swedish via Ancestry and 46.6% Swedish with 23andMe. My Mom is fully Swedish American, with her dad born over there on Gotland island in the SE part, and her mom's parents coming from the western side of Sweden, closer to Oslo, Norway.

    Swedish falls in at #15: 2.639
    Last edited by ScandinavianCelt; 01-01-2025 at 09:32 PM.
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 1.8468% / 0.01846772
    49.0 Early_CW
    45.2 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
    5.8 Early_CWNL001__BC_2893__Cov_53.89%


    By the way, IllustrativeDNA puts my top modern closest distance as:

    Dutch 1.720
    Orcadian 1.758
    German 1.805
    Irish 1.810
    Scottish 1.832
    Norwegian 1.892
    Welsh 1.895
    Danish 1.918
    English (Kent) 1.932
    White American (Utah) 1.987
    I"m not close to most Dutch at all.

    Distance to: Asega_scaled
    0.02690068 Norwegian:GSM1550604
    0.02801817 Norwegian:GSM1550768
    0.02823740 Irish:513
    0.02961798 Swedish:GSM1884745
    0.02974119 Dutch:Netherlands21
    0.02975373 Swedish:Sweden16
    0.02986140 Danish:487
    0.03089491 Danish:GSM1985841
    0.03106259 Icelandic:NA15766
    0.03115785 Swedish:GSM1884888
    0.03145210 Norwegian:GSM1550634
    0.03172399 Swedish:GSM1884788
    0.03211708 Icelandic:NA15760
    0.03262783 Danish:GSM1985779
    0.03271420 Norwegian:NOR152
    0.03272011 Danish:GSM1985777
    0.03302615 Danish:GSM1985711
    0.03321378 Danish:GSM1985829
    0.03346644 Swedish:GSM1884854
    0.03347705 Irish:509
    0.03361020 Danish:GSM1985756
    0.03369855 Irish:518
    0.03388240 Swedish:GSM1884771
    0.03403786 Icelandic:NA15759
    0.03414489 Swedish:GSM1884849
    Last edited by Asega; 01-01-2025 at 09:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    I"m not close to most Dutch at all.

    Distance to: Asega_scaled
    0.02690068 Norwegian:GSM1550604
    0.02801817 Norwegian:GSM1550768
    0.02823740 Irish:513
    0.02961798 Swedish:GSM1884745
    0.02974119 Dutch:Netherlands21
    0.02975373 Swedish:Sweden16
    0.02986140 Danish:487
    0.03089491 Danish:GSM1985841
    0.03106259 Icelandic:NA15766
    0.03115785 Swedish:GSM1884888
    0.03145210 Norwegian:GSM1550634
    0.03172399 Swedish:GSM1884788
    0.03211708 Icelandic:NA15760
    0.03262783 Danish:GSM1985779
    0.03271420 Norwegian:NOR152
    0.03272011 Danish:GSM1985777
    0.03302615 Danish:GSM1985711
    0.03321378 Danish:GSM1985829
    0.03346644 Swedish:GSM1884854
    0.03347705 Irish:509
    0.03361020 Danish:GSM1985756
    0.03369855 Irish:518
    0.03388240 Swedish:GSM1884771
    0.03403786 Icelandic:NA15759
    0.03414489 Swedish:GSM1884849

    What do you show with your calc at 2x?

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.8689% / 0.02868871 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.0 Early_CW
    43.0 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    What do you show with your calc at 2x?

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.8689% / 0.02868871 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.0 Early_CW
    43.0 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 9.1140% / 0.09113964 | ADC: 2x RC
    100.0 Early_CW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    I"m not close to most Dutch at all.

    Distance to: Asega_scaled
    0.02690068 Norwegian:GSM1550604
    0.02801817 Norwegian:GSM1550768
    0.02823740 Irish:513
    0.02961798 Swedish:GSM1884745
    0.02974119 Dutch:Netherlands21
    0.02975373 Swedish:Sweden16
    0.02986140 Danish:487
    0.03089491 Danish:GSM1985841
    0.03106259 Icelandic:NA15766
    0.03115785 Swedish:GSM1884888
    0.03145210 Norwegian:GSM1550634
    0.03172399 Swedish:GSM1884788
    0.03211708 Icelandic:NA15760
    0.03262783 Danish:GSM1985779
    0.03271420 Norwegian:NOR152
    0.03272011 Danish:GSM1985777
    0.03302615 Danish:GSM1985711
    0.03321378 Danish:GSM1985829
    0.03346644 Swedish:GSM1884854
    0.03347705 Irish:509
    0.03361020 Danish:GSM1985756
    0.03369855 Irish:518
    0.03388240 Swedish:GSM1884771
    0.03403786 Icelandic:NA15759
    0.03414489 Swedish:GSM1884849
    Yes, my G25 results are not showing Dutch on the modern scaled until #25, but IllustrativeDNA puts Dutch #1. Modern scaled G25 gives me Danish-Hamburg-Danish-Swedish-Irish as top 5 individuals. Prob best to compare the AVERAGES.

    My averages results:

    Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.02392157 Danish
    0.02395960 Dutch
    0.02495352 Norwegian
    0.02628904 Scottish
    0.02663552 Afrikaner
    0.02668656 Orcadian
    0.02706109 Irish
    0.02717041 German_Hamburg
    0.02732863 Icelandic
    0.02745514 Shetlandic
    0.02759650 English
    0.02824142 German
    0.02825613 Swedish
    0.02832112 Welsh
    0.02997292 French_Brittany
    0.03098878 German_Erlangen
    0.03108580 English_Cornwall
    0.03508454 BelgianA
    0.03602410 German_East
    0.03614140 Austrian
    0.03741926 BelgianB
    0.03835439 Czech
    0.03924872 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.04013701 French_Nord
    0.04166929 Hungarian
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    Yes, my G25 results are not showing Dutch on the modern scaled until #25, but IllustrativeDNA puts Dutch #1. Modern scaled G25 gives me Danish-Hamburg-Danish-Swedish-Irish as top 5 individuals. Prob best to compare the AVERAGES.
    I feel like averages can be misleading sometimes. Personally prefer comparing against individuals. It changes nothing for me.

    Apparently I am more Steppe than most individuals, which is why I always come back as a mixture of Irish and Finnish to compensate for the excess Steppe HG and lower farmer ancestry.

    I owe my height to my Steppe patriarch/ancestors, that's certain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    I feel like averages can be misleading sometimes. Personally prefer comparing against individuals. It changes nothing for me.

    Apparently I am more Steppe than most individuals, which is why I always come back as a mixture of Irish and Finnish to compensate for the excess Steppe HG and lower farmer ancestry.

    I owe my height to my Steppe patriarch/ancestors, that's certain.
    What do you get on the classic Steppe calc?

    I get this:

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 3.8097% / 0.03809678

    53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    35.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    11.2 France_Rochedane


    Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
    France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

    You can also try with swapping in Ostuni1 for Rochedane:

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 5.1017% / 0.05101734

    54.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    33.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    12.0 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

    Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515

    Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.14145541 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    0.17628712 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
    0.21870658 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
    0.33265485 France_Rochedane

    --------------------

    I just checked distances of Samara_EBA_Yamnaya to all most northern averages without Finnish-- where do you fall in this?

    Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.14173379 Swedish
    0.14528423 Icelandic
    0.14538280 Norwegian
    0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
    0.14691370 Shetlandic
    0.14743516 Danish
    0.14835555 Polish
    0.14868644 Irish
    0.14977183 German_Hamburg
    0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
    0.15090875 Scottish
    0.15293987 Dutch
    0.15379892 German_East
    0.15599082 English
    0.15648903 Welsh
    0.15814252 German_Erlangen
    0.15823242 German
    0.15944160 English_Cornwall
    0.16106085 French_Brittany
    0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.16515663 BelgianA
    0.16857903 BelgianB
    0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.17169356 French_Nord
    0.17295357 French_Alsace
    0.17564242 Swiss_German
    0.17646282 BelgianC
    0.17748785 French_Paris
    0.18835312 Swiss_French
    0.18903221 French_Occitanie
    0.19020848 French_Provence
    0.19115325 French_Auvergne
    0.21063499 French_Chalosse
    0.21083390 French_South
    0.21331569 French_Bearn
    0.21357288 French_Bigorre
    0.21751658 Basque_French
    0.22452398 French_Corsica
    0.23562443 Ashkenazi_Germany

    samples:

    Welsh,0.131978,0.138163,0.060132,0.043024,0.040592 ,0.016622,0.003314,0.006392,0.006279,0.004337,-0.00423,0.005912,-0.012911,-0.010975,0.020596,0.005708,-0.008703,0.002356,0.003086,0.002007,0.004985,0.003 852,-1.2e-05,0.011224,0.000808
    Irish,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.037788 ,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001 279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661
    Scottish,0.131466,0.134232,0.062265,0.047043,0.039 106,0.017281,0.00355,0.005176,0.003572,0.002825,-0.005614,0.005047,-0.01168,-0.011973,0.023024,0.003125,-0.011255,0.002774,0.00255,0.001452,0.004225,0.0033 08,-0.000656,0.013556,-0.00077
    Shetlandic,0.134311,0.133373,0.060842,0.047912,0.0 40418,0.019429,0.00423,0.004692,0.003545,-0.004131,-0.003951,0.006744,-0.011546,-0.012615,0.021308,0.002608,-0.008736,0.001436,0.002975,-0.00246,0.003203,0.002679,0.006286,0.018798,0.0026 74
    English,0.131855,0.137043,0.061788,0.044013,0.0392 3,0.016748,0.004985,0.005745,0.005264,0.005678,-0.004769,0.005616,-0.012589,-0.010351,0.020615,0.003552,-0.010369,0.004094,0.003685,0.002962,0.005937,0.003 404,-0.003269,0.013794,3.1e-05
    English_Cornwall,0.130197,0.139752,0.061355,0.0431 83,0.041901,0.016412,0.003435,0.00639,0.006482,0.0 06967,-0.004634,0.006479,-0.013745,-0.010248,0.020755,0.003172,-0.012527,0.002115,0.003761,0.003242,0.004809,0.003 871,-0.000758,0.014367,0.000691
    Dutch,0.127441,0.134179,0.060271,0.044076,0.040844 ,0.016397,0.005402,0.007263,0.004209,0.001924,-0.005635,0.004427,-0.009846,-0.008676,0.01783,0.005623,-0.006516,0.001748,0.003909,0.002816,0.00448,0.0033 85,-5e-06,0.013892,-0.000656
    Basque_French,0.128051,0.152025,0.055173,0.012823, 0.056411,0.00251,-0.00141,0.003323,0.030597,0.041204,-0.009272,0.010341,-0.020976,-0.014024,0.013219,-0.001936,-0.011917,0.003028,-0.000716,-0.004415,0.010157,0.002485,-0.00864,-0.00917,7.2e-05
    French_Alsace,0.127311,0.140372,0.050317,0.022432, 0.038423,0.008911,0.00292,0.004875,0.006852,0.0106 79,-0.003134,0.004578,-0.009444,-0.00417,0.008561,0.003066,-0.004893,0.002439,0.003243,-0.000716,0.002764,0.001156,-0.001322,0.007137,-0.000314
    French_Auvergne,0.125416,0.144656,0.04742,0.012992 ,0.043472,0.003997,-0.000339,0.002513,0.015407,0.022172,-0.002466,0.007355,-0.013969,-0.009669,0.008299,0.001483,-0.000787,0.001497,0.003073,-0.000213,0.001858,0.003737,-0.002282,0.001816,-8.9e-05
    French_Bearn,0.126799,0.144814,0.053589,0.006008,0 .053949,0.002175,-0.001692,-0.002054,0.024461,0.039891,-0.008866,0.010236,-0.018999,-0.014327,0.014169,0.001578,-0.005724,-0.000899,-0.001735,-0.003302,0.005465,0.003141,-0.006643,-0.00817,0.000683
    French_Bigorre,0.128051,0.147353,0.052269,0.00533, 0.052225,-0.000837,-0.001669,0.000162,0.024809,0.03827,-0.003085,0.007883,-0.021481,-0.014148,0.00874,0.000186,-0.003559,0.002369,-0.000892,-0.002914,0.002508,-0.00089,-0.003291,-0.005904,0.00103
    French_Brittany,0.131466,0.13834,0.05785,0.039285, 0.039169,0.015813,0.003155,0.004211,0.008186,0.009 49,-0.005131,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.013102,0.018343,0.004399,-0.007302,0.00128,-0.000462,0.001773,0.004467,0.001787,-0.001254,0.010547,0.000659
    French_Chalosse,0.128734,0.14776,0.051892,0.011176 ,0.051333,0.002761,0.00047,0.001777,0.025259,0.039 655,-0.002696,0.008947,-0.020337,-0.015083,0.011088,0.002824,-0.005424,0.001672,-0.000779,-0.002239,0.008273,0.002844,-0.007691,-0.007664,-0.002096
    French_Corsica,0.120327,0.151822,0.01953,-0.023002,0.035039,-0.01004,-0.001846,-0.000561,0.015705,0.033792,-0.000603,0.007461,-0.013231,-0.007107,-0.004537,-0.000597,0.004042,0.001249,0.002451,-0.003046,-0.000392,0.000247,-0.002579,-0.001386,-0.00053
    French_Nord,0.128275,0.140543,0.051357,0.025605,0. 038273,0.008891,0.001097,0.00442,0.008373,0.012016 ,-0.003484,0.004033,-0.010861,-0.008182,0.011199,0.002543,-0.004607,0.002227,0.004095,0.001031,0.002133,0.001 525,-0.001572,0.007471,1.4e-05
    French_Occitanie,0.127039,0.144883,0.048879,0.0179 08,0.043376,0.003416,0.000522,0.003891,0.014856,0. 023589,-0.003288,0.006582,-0.015044,-0.009458,0.010737,0.002567,-0.003709,0.002484,0.001425,4.5e-05,0.003671,0.002446,-0.00255,0.001767,0.000422
    French_Paris,0.127171,0.141436,0.050431,0.02399,0. 040903,0.009305,0.002799,0.005454,0.011602,0.01817 4,-0.007706,0.006812,-0.012906,-0.010384,0.01377,0.006063,-0.001825,0.004664,0.002708,-0.000978,0.002201,0.003575,-0.001232,0.011141,-0.001905
    French_Pas-de-Calais,0.127861,0.140481,0.054305,0.026809,0.04216 2,0.012736,0.004152,0.001308,0.008522,0.012453,-0.008011,0.002198,-0.01001,-0.012019,0.013663,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.009982,0.001443,-0.002547,0.005904,-0.001437
    French_Provence,0.121925,0.143847,0.036891,0.00535 8,0.036858,0.00233,0.002267,0.003638,0.010058,0.02 0453,-0.003869,0.007211,-0.012138,-0.010961,0.005956,0.003174,0.001097,0.002809,0.001 775,-0.001515,0.001541,0.002735,0.000355,0.005444,3.5e-05
    French_Seine-Maritime,0.136019,0.137096,0.045254,0.029555,0.039 084,0.016733,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.007493,-0.007582,-0.001651,0.014251,0.003514,-0.007953,-0.002344,0.000943,-0.005002,0.003931,0.005503,0.000863,0.004278,-0.004491
    French_South,0.126181,0.144785,0.049618,0.00886,0. 050691,0.002669,0.000269,0.002275,0.02764,0.03866,-0.006774,0.007365,-0.021853,-0.013566,0.010373,0.002765,-0.005104,0.001792,0.000215,0.001912,0.004991,-0.00083,-0.005264,-0.007557,-0.00142
    Swiss_French,0.12734,0.14484,0.041436,0.010215,0.0 41162,0.006484,0.000823,0.002884,0.011811,0.019431 ,-0.000751,0.006594,-0.015962,-0.012524,0.008347,0.002171,0.005753,-0.001615,0.003661,-0.000344,0.004788,0.003648,0.001664,0.002576,-0.000479
    Ashkenazi_Germany,0.097319,0.142377,-0.014406,-0.049936,0.010925,-0.018769,-0.001974,-0.001754,0.009858,0.018843,0.003962,-0.001124,0.002512,-0.00267,-0.005049,0.003089,0.002203,-0.001698,-0.000779,-0.001126,-0.003344,-0.002696,0.000875,0.001386,0.000814
    German,0.130299,0.137378,0.057363,0.037865,0.03956 6,0.015146,0.004177,0.005897,0.003746,0.001633,-0.004331,0.002316,-0.005334,-0.001744,0.008738,0.002822,-0.0033,0.001633,0.003531,0.001114,0.002947,0.00180 1,0.000337,0.00836,7.4e-05
    German_East,0.130897,0.138493,0.061094,0.049984,0. 038123,0.016141,0.006316,0.007038,0.002199,-0.00492,-0.005217,-0.00178,-3.7e-05,0.008223,0.001306,-0.003132,-0.007905,0.001188,0.005311,-0.00075,0.000624,-0.001113,0.001772,0.001612,-0.000314
    German_Erlangen,0.128569,0.137233,0.056163,0.03807 6,0.038593,0.015097,0.004223,0.005442,0.0041,-0.000112,-0.003119,0.00121,-0.003703,0.001892,0.00443,0.001817,-0.001831,0.0018,0.003111,0.000597,-0.000315,0.00136,0.00183,0.006703,2e-06
    German_Hamburg,0.128285,0.13399,0.063467,0.048526, 0.040062,0.020375,0.007562,0.009108,0.00296,-0.003559,-0.003878,8.8e-05,-0.00251,0.000753,0.009436,0.003268,-0.004556,0.002556,0.003993,0.000684,0.00174,0.0015 57,0.002719,0.00735,-0.001035
    Swiss_German,0.127624,0.140778,0.046009,0.022731,0 .040623,0.007391,0.002791,0.005134,0.008641,0.0121 64,-0.001522,0.005264,-0.01494,-0.008808,0.008364,-0.001127,-0.002591,0.001219,0.005374,-0.000922,0.001934,0.003509,-0.002557,0.006974,-0.00256
    BelgianA,0.129758,0.140617,0.054506,0.031374,0.038 305,0.014131,0.003666,0.005554,0.006804,0.006852,-0.004991,0.005155,-0.011338,-0.005698,0.014794,-0.000672,-0.010831,0.001301,0.002497,-0.000217,0.003552,0.002523,0.000592,0.008073,0.000 583
    BelgianB,0.128469,0.141091,0.050459,0.028037,0.038 633,0.010505,0.003509,0.005,0.00634,0.011517,-0.004136,0.004096,-0.010852,-0.010909,0.012577,0.005012,-0.002156,0.002441,0.001366,0.000275,0.003852,0.003 438,-0.000707,0.009303,-0.002203
    BelgianC,0.126875,0.142987,0.053249,0.023149,0.040 582,0.009501,0.00141,0.004738,0.010826,0.014397,-0.003161,0.006314,-0.012269,-0.009303,0.012034,0.001715,-0.004955,0.001098,0.001592,0.000367,0.002729,0.002 844,-0.001142,0.009335,-0.001932
    Danish,0.131248,0.135065,0.066378,0.052438,0.04130 3,0.019457,0.005159,0.007401,0.003436,-0.002558,-0.005359,0.00348,-0.008507,-0.007093,0.018669,0.006117,-0.006519,0.002047,0.00324,0.004346,0.00564,0.00243 5,0.000692,0.013774,0.000201
    Icelandic,0.132698,0.133626,0.067819,0.05631,0.039 366,0.022962,0.003349,0.008519,0.002642,6.1e-05,-0.005481,0.00517,-0.006368,-0.009083,0.023072,0.005293,-0.011691,0.001911,0.001739,0.003887,0.009255,0.002 803,-0.000842,0.014018,0.000828
    Norwegian,0.132092,0.129455,0.068051,0.054531,0.04 0323,0.019871,0.00416,0.006092,0.006151,-0.002287,-0.004644,0.004275,-0.009236,-0.01015,0.020253,0.006557,-0.0072,0.00331,0.002976,0.004108,0.005681,0.00409, 0.000887,0.014107,-6.9e-05
    Swedish,0.132193,0.125885,0.072642,0.058972,0.0402 64,0.02079,0.00638,0.009294,0.003649,-0.006663,-0.004203,0.000533,-0.003045,-0.003352,0.014593,0.005865,-0.005106,0.001622,0.002991,0.005015,0.006773,0.002 526,0.001253,0.011594,0.000212
    Polish,0.13184,0.12927,0.069868,0.057738,0.040676, 0.021713,0.008678,0.010863,-0.000933,-0.018553,-0.004349,-0.006419,0.013093,0.018629,-0.007024,-0.00056,0.001546,-7.4e-05,0.002695,0.001287,-0.003129,-0.003119,0.005606,-0.003333,-8.8e-05
    Polish_Kashubian,0.136588,0.133034,0.07533,0.06435 8,0.044931,0.021196,0.010517,0.01223,-0.003528,-0.021868,-0.004182,-0.005283,0.009217,0.018063,-0.002613,-0.00116,-0.002021,-0.001077,0.003174,0.001782,-0.003338,-0.004792,0.004499,0.001536,0.00021
    Polish_Silesian,0.131466,0.130496,0.070522,0.04990 4,0.037545,0.019383,0.004583,0.013038,0.000307,-0.014943,-0.001705,-0.000674,0.002156,0.014794,-0.007057,-0.002585,0.010887,0,-0.00176,0.002126,-0.00156,-0.002349,0.004252,0.007049,-0.000479
    SC_Official_AVE_Scaled,0.1269125,0.129988,0.056568 5,0.054587,0.0289285,0.0129685,0.0043475,0.006,0.0 03477,-0.000091,-0.006577,0.0029225,-0.0059465,-0.008051,0.01554,0.001591,0.0012385,0.006271,-0.0027025,0.0055025,0.0092335,-0.0042045,0.0029575,0.015424,0.0021555
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    What do you get on the classic Steppe calc?

    I get this:

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 3.8097% / 0.03809678

    53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    35.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    11.2 France_Rochedane


    Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
    France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

    You can also try with swapping in Ostuni1 for Rochedane:

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 5.1017% / 0.05101734

    54.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    33.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    12.0 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

    Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515

    Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.14145541 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    0.17628712 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
    0.21870658 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
    0.33265485 France_Rochedane
    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 4.8148% / 0.04814806
    59.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    27.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    13.2 France_Rochedane

    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 6.4071% / 0.06407097
    61.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    25.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    12.6 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

    Distance to: Asega_scaled
    0.02952064 Norwegian
    0.03003325 Icelandic
    0.03084252 Swedish
    0.03421501 Danish
    0.03691813 Irish
    0.03763814 Shetlandic
    0.03838586 Scottish
    0.03993830 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.04136781 Dutch
    0.04238564 English
    0.04395343 Welsh
    0.04522813 German_Hamburg
    0.04546507 English_Cornwall
    0.05022898 French_Brittany
    0.05253291 German
    0.05630822 German_Erlangen
    0.05658576 German_East
    0.05839092 BelgianA
    0.06222983 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.06318254 Polish_Silesian
    0.06322209 BelgianB
    0.06448952 Polish_Kashubian
    0.06454967 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.06591216 French_Nord
    0.06798783 Polish

    Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    0.12518432 Asega_scaled
    0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.14173379 Swedish
    0.14528423 Icelandic
    0.14538280 Norwegian
    0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
    0.14691370 Shetlandic
    0.14743516 Danish
    0.14835555 Polish
    0.14868644 Irish
    0.14977183 German_Hamburg
    0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
    0.15090875 Scottish
    0.15293987 Dutch
    0.15379892 German_East
    0.15599082 English
    0.15648903 Welsh
    0.15814252 German_Erlangen
    0.15823242 German
    0.15944160 English_Cornwall
    0.16106085 French_Brittany
    0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.16515663 BelgianA
    0.16857903 BelgianB
    0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 4.8148% / 0.04814806
    59.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    27.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    13.2 France_Rochedane

    Target: Asega_scaled
    Distance: 6.4071% / 0.06407097
    61.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    25.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    12.6 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1

    Distance to: Asega_scaled
    0.02952064 Norwegian
    0.03003325 Icelandic
    0.03084252 Swedish
    0.03421501 Danish
    0.03691813 Irish
    0.03763814 Shetlandic
    0.03838586 Scottish
    0.03993830 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.04136781 Dutch
    0.04238564 English
    0.04395343 Welsh
    0.04522813 German_Hamburg
    0.04546507 English_Cornwall
    0.05022898 French_Brittany
    0.05253291 German
    0.05630822 German_Erlangen
    0.05658576 German_East
    0.05839092 BelgianA
    0.06222983 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.06318254 Polish_Silesian
    0.06322209 BelgianB
    0.06448952 Polish_Kashubian
    0.06454967 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.06591216 French_Nord
    0.06798783 Polish

    Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    0.12518432 Asega_scaled
    0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    0.14173379 Swedish
    0.14528423 Icelandic
    0.14538280 Norwegian
    0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
    0.14691370 Shetlandic
    0.14743516 Danish
    0.14835555 Polish
    0.14868644 Irish
    0.14977183 German_Hamburg
    0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
    0.15090875 Scottish
    0.15293987 Dutch
    0.15379892 German_East
    0.15599082 English
    0.15648903 Welsh
    0.15814252 German_Erlangen
    0.15823242 German
    0.15944160 English_Cornwall
    0.16106085 French_Brittany
    0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.16515663 BelgianA
    0.16857903 BelgianB
    0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais

    Your Yamnaya score places your genetics in this range:



    Is that accurate?

    Which raw data set are you using? Seems very out-of-the-ordinary high for anyone on the forum. Most of us who get most Yamnaya are showing either high Irish or specific Scandinavian sample matches.
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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