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| Received: 5,592/4 Given: 6,412/2 |
Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 1.8468% / 0.01846772
49.0 Early_CW
45.2 Central-Eastern_Europe_GAC
5.8 Early_CWNL001__BC_2893__Cov_53.89%
By the way, using my best merged data file IllustrativeDNA puts my top modern closest distance as:
Dutch 1.720
Orcadian 1.758
German 1.805
Irish 1.810
Scottish 1.832
Norwegian 1.892
Welsh 1.895
Danish 1.918
English (Kent) 1.932
White American (Utah) 1.987
No Swedish, yet I'm 50% Swedish via Ancestry and 46.6% Swedish with 23andMe. My Mom is fully Swedish American, with her dad born over there on Gotland island in the SE part, and her mom's parents coming from the western side of Sweden, closer to Oslo, Norway.
Swedish falls in at #15: 2.639
Last edited by ScandinavianCelt; 01-01-2025 at 09:32 PM.
Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
57.2 Irish
42.8 Norwegian




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I"m not close to most Dutch at all.
Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.02690068 Norwegian:GSM1550604
0.02801817 Norwegian:GSM1550768
0.02823740 Irish:513
0.02961798 Swedish:GSM1884745
0.02974119 Dutch:Netherlands21
0.02975373 Swedish:Sweden16
0.02986140 Danish:487
0.03089491 Danish:GSM1985841
0.03106259 Icelandic:NA15766
0.03115785 Swedish:GSM1884888
0.03145210 Norwegian:GSM1550634
0.03172399 Swedish:GSM1884788
0.03211708 Icelandic:NA15760
0.03262783 Danish:GSM1985779
0.03271420 Norwegian:NOR152
0.03272011 Danish:GSM1985777
0.03302615 Danish:GSM1985711
0.03321378 Danish:GSM1985829
0.03346644 Swedish:GSM1884854
0.03347705 Irish:509
0.03361020 Danish:GSM1985756
0.03369855 Irish:518
0.03388240 Swedish:GSM1884771
0.03403786 Icelandic:NA15759
0.03414489 Swedish:GSM1884849
Last edited by Asega; 01-01-2025 at 09:41 PM.
Eala Frya Fresena



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| Received: 5,592/4 Given: 6,412/2 |
Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
57.2 Irish
42.8 Norwegian



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| Received: 5,592/4 Given: 6,412/2 |
Yes, my G25 results are not showing Dutch on the modern scaled until #25, but IllustrativeDNA puts Dutch #1. Modern scaled G25 gives me Danish-Hamburg-Danish-Swedish-Irish as top 5 individuals. Prob best to compare the AVERAGES.
My averages results:
Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.02392157 Danish
0.02395960 Dutch
0.02495352 Norwegian
0.02628904 Scottish
0.02663552 Afrikaner
0.02668656 Orcadian
0.02706109 Irish
0.02717041 German_Hamburg
0.02732863 Icelandic
0.02745514 Shetlandic
0.02759650 English
0.02824142 German
0.02825613 Swedish
0.02832112 Welsh
0.02997292 French_Brittany
0.03098878 German_Erlangen
0.03108580 English_Cornwall
0.03508454 BelgianA
0.03602410 German_East
0.03614140 Austrian
0.03741926 BelgianB
0.03835439 Czech
0.03924872 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04013701 French_Nord
0.04166929 Hungarian
Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
57.2 Irish
42.8 Norwegian




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I feel like averages can be misleading sometimes. Personally prefer comparing against individuals. It changes nothing for me.
Apparently I am more Steppe than most individuals, which is why I always come back as a mixture of Irish and Finnish to compensate for the excess Steppe HG and lower farmer ancestry.
I owe my height to my Steppe patriarch/ancestors, that's certain.
Eala Frya Fresena



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What do you get on the classic Steppe calc?
I get this:
Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 3.8097% / 0.03809678
53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
35.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
11.2 France_Rochedane
Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
You can also try with swapping in Ostuni1 for Rochedane:
Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
Distance: 5.1017% / 0.05101734
54.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
33.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.0 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
Distance to: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14145541 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.17628712 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
0.21870658 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG
0.33265485 France_Rochedane
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I just checked distances of Samara_EBA_Yamnaya to all most northern averages without Finnish-- where do you fall in this?
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
0.14691370 Shetlandic
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15379892 German_East
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15814252 German_Erlangen
0.15823242 German
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.17169356 French_Nord
0.17295357 French_Alsace
0.17564242 Swiss_German
0.17646282 BelgianC
0.17748785 French_Paris
0.18835312 Swiss_French
0.18903221 French_Occitanie
0.19020848 French_Provence
0.19115325 French_Auvergne
0.21063499 French_Chalosse
0.21083390 French_South
0.21331569 French_Bearn
0.21357288 French_Bigorre
0.21751658 Basque_French
0.22452398 French_Corsica
0.23562443 Ashkenazi_Germany
samples:
Welsh,0.131978,0.138163,0.060132,0.043024,0.040592 ,0.016622,0.003314,0.006392,0.006279,0.004337,-0.00423,0.005912,-0.012911,-0.010975,0.020596,0.005708,-0.008703,0.002356,0.003086,0.002007,0.004985,0.003 852,-1.2e-05,0.011224,0.000808
Irish,0.133361,0.134098,0.061169,0.048864,0.037788 ,0.019352,0.003293,0.004713,0.003568,0.002927,-0.006971,0.00584,-0.014189,-0.014076,0.025935,0.005215,-0.011145,0.001894,0.000597,0.001776,0.005114,0.001 279,0.000293,0.014407,0.000661
Scottish,0.131466,0.134232,0.062265,0.047043,0.039 106,0.017281,0.00355,0.005176,0.003572,0.002825,-0.005614,0.005047,-0.01168,-0.011973,0.023024,0.003125,-0.011255,0.002774,0.00255,0.001452,0.004225,0.0033 08,-0.000656,0.013556,-0.00077
Shetlandic,0.134311,0.133373,0.060842,0.047912,0.0 40418,0.019429,0.00423,0.004692,0.003545,-0.004131,-0.003951,0.006744,-0.011546,-0.012615,0.021308,0.002608,-0.008736,0.001436,0.002975,-0.00246,0.003203,0.002679,0.006286,0.018798,0.0026 74
English,0.131855,0.137043,0.061788,0.044013,0.0392 3,0.016748,0.004985,0.005745,0.005264,0.005678,-0.004769,0.005616,-0.012589,-0.010351,0.020615,0.003552,-0.010369,0.004094,0.003685,0.002962,0.005937,0.003 404,-0.003269,0.013794,3.1e-05
English_Cornwall,0.130197,0.139752,0.061355,0.0431 83,0.041901,0.016412,0.003435,0.00639,0.006482,0.0 06967,-0.004634,0.006479,-0.013745,-0.010248,0.020755,0.003172,-0.012527,0.002115,0.003761,0.003242,0.004809,0.003 871,-0.000758,0.014367,0.000691
Dutch,0.127441,0.134179,0.060271,0.044076,0.040844 ,0.016397,0.005402,0.007263,0.004209,0.001924,-0.005635,0.004427,-0.009846,-0.008676,0.01783,0.005623,-0.006516,0.001748,0.003909,0.002816,0.00448,0.0033 85,-5e-06,0.013892,-0.000656
Basque_French,0.128051,0.152025,0.055173,0.012823, 0.056411,0.00251,-0.00141,0.003323,0.030597,0.041204,-0.009272,0.010341,-0.020976,-0.014024,0.013219,-0.001936,-0.011917,0.003028,-0.000716,-0.004415,0.010157,0.002485,-0.00864,-0.00917,7.2e-05
French_Alsace,0.127311,0.140372,0.050317,0.022432, 0.038423,0.008911,0.00292,0.004875,0.006852,0.0106 79,-0.003134,0.004578,-0.009444,-0.00417,0.008561,0.003066,-0.004893,0.002439,0.003243,-0.000716,0.002764,0.001156,-0.001322,0.007137,-0.000314
French_Auvergne,0.125416,0.144656,0.04742,0.012992 ,0.043472,0.003997,-0.000339,0.002513,0.015407,0.022172,-0.002466,0.007355,-0.013969,-0.009669,0.008299,0.001483,-0.000787,0.001497,0.003073,-0.000213,0.001858,0.003737,-0.002282,0.001816,-8.9e-05
French_Bearn,0.126799,0.144814,0.053589,0.006008,0 .053949,0.002175,-0.001692,-0.002054,0.024461,0.039891,-0.008866,0.010236,-0.018999,-0.014327,0.014169,0.001578,-0.005724,-0.000899,-0.001735,-0.003302,0.005465,0.003141,-0.006643,-0.00817,0.000683
French_Bigorre,0.128051,0.147353,0.052269,0.00533, 0.052225,-0.000837,-0.001669,0.000162,0.024809,0.03827,-0.003085,0.007883,-0.021481,-0.014148,0.00874,0.000186,-0.003559,0.002369,-0.000892,-0.002914,0.002508,-0.00089,-0.003291,-0.005904,0.00103
French_Brittany,0.131466,0.13834,0.05785,0.039285, 0.039169,0.015813,0.003155,0.004211,0.008186,0.009 49,-0.005131,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.013102,0.018343,0.004399,-0.007302,0.00128,-0.000462,0.001773,0.004467,0.001787,-0.001254,0.010547,0.000659
French_Chalosse,0.128734,0.14776,0.051892,0.011176 ,0.051333,0.002761,0.00047,0.001777,0.025259,0.039 655,-0.002696,0.008947,-0.020337,-0.015083,0.011088,0.002824,-0.005424,0.001672,-0.000779,-0.002239,0.008273,0.002844,-0.007691,-0.007664,-0.002096
French_Corsica,0.120327,0.151822,0.01953,-0.023002,0.035039,-0.01004,-0.001846,-0.000561,0.015705,0.033792,-0.000603,0.007461,-0.013231,-0.007107,-0.004537,-0.000597,0.004042,0.001249,0.002451,-0.003046,-0.000392,0.000247,-0.002579,-0.001386,-0.00053
French_Nord,0.128275,0.140543,0.051357,0.025605,0. 038273,0.008891,0.001097,0.00442,0.008373,0.012016 ,-0.003484,0.004033,-0.010861,-0.008182,0.011199,0.002543,-0.004607,0.002227,0.004095,0.001031,0.002133,0.001 525,-0.001572,0.007471,1.4e-05
French_Occitanie,0.127039,0.144883,0.048879,0.0179 08,0.043376,0.003416,0.000522,0.003891,0.014856,0. 023589,-0.003288,0.006582,-0.015044,-0.009458,0.010737,0.002567,-0.003709,0.002484,0.001425,4.5e-05,0.003671,0.002446,-0.00255,0.001767,0.000422
French_Paris,0.127171,0.141436,0.050431,0.02399,0. 040903,0.009305,0.002799,0.005454,0.011602,0.01817 4,-0.007706,0.006812,-0.012906,-0.010384,0.01377,0.006063,-0.001825,0.004664,0.002708,-0.000978,0.002201,0.003575,-0.001232,0.011141,-0.001905
French_Pas-de-Calais,0.127861,0.140481,0.054305,0.026809,0.04216 2,0.012736,0.004152,0.001308,0.008522,0.012453,-0.008011,0.002198,-0.01001,-0.012019,0.013663,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.009982,0.001443,-0.002547,0.005904,-0.001437
French_Provence,0.121925,0.143847,0.036891,0.00535 8,0.036858,0.00233,0.002267,0.003638,0.010058,0.02 0453,-0.003869,0.007211,-0.012138,-0.010961,0.005956,0.003174,0.001097,0.002809,0.001 775,-0.001515,0.001541,0.002735,0.000355,0.005444,3.5e-05
French_Seine-Maritime,0.136019,0.137096,0.045254,0.029555,0.039 084,0.016733,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.007493,-0.007582,-0.001651,0.014251,0.003514,-0.007953,-0.002344,0.000943,-0.005002,0.003931,0.005503,0.000863,0.004278,-0.004491
French_South,0.126181,0.144785,0.049618,0.00886,0. 050691,0.002669,0.000269,0.002275,0.02764,0.03866,-0.006774,0.007365,-0.021853,-0.013566,0.010373,0.002765,-0.005104,0.001792,0.000215,0.001912,0.004991,-0.00083,-0.005264,-0.007557,-0.00142
Swiss_French,0.12734,0.14484,0.041436,0.010215,0.0 41162,0.006484,0.000823,0.002884,0.011811,0.019431 ,-0.000751,0.006594,-0.015962,-0.012524,0.008347,0.002171,0.005753,-0.001615,0.003661,-0.000344,0.004788,0.003648,0.001664,0.002576,-0.000479
Ashkenazi_Germany,0.097319,0.142377,-0.014406,-0.049936,0.010925,-0.018769,-0.001974,-0.001754,0.009858,0.018843,0.003962,-0.001124,0.002512,-0.00267,-0.005049,0.003089,0.002203,-0.001698,-0.000779,-0.001126,-0.003344,-0.002696,0.000875,0.001386,0.000814
German,0.130299,0.137378,0.057363,0.037865,0.03956 6,0.015146,0.004177,0.005897,0.003746,0.001633,-0.004331,0.002316,-0.005334,-0.001744,0.008738,0.002822,-0.0033,0.001633,0.003531,0.001114,0.002947,0.00180 1,0.000337,0.00836,7.4e-05
German_East,0.130897,0.138493,0.061094,0.049984,0. 038123,0.016141,0.006316,0.007038,0.002199,-0.00492,-0.005217,-0.00178,-3.7e-05,0.008223,0.001306,-0.003132,-0.007905,0.001188,0.005311,-0.00075,0.000624,-0.001113,0.001772,0.001612,-0.000314
German_Erlangen,0.128569,0.137233,0.056163,0.03807 6,0.038593,0.015097,0.004223,0.005442,0.0041,-0.000112,-0.003119,0.00121,-0.003703,0.001892,0.00443,0.001817,-0.001831,0.0018,0.003111,0.000597,-0.000315,0.00136,0.00183,0.006703,2e-06
German_Hamburg,0.128285,0.13399,0.063467,0.048526, 0.040062,0.020375,0.007562,0.009108,0.00296,-0.003559,-0.003878,8.8e-05,-0.00251,0.000753,0.009436,0.003268,-0.004556,0.002556,0.003993,0.000684,0.00174,0.0015 57,0.002719,0.00735,-0.001035
Swiss_German,0.127624,0.140778,0.046009,0.022731,0 .040623,0.007391,0.002791,0.005134,0.008641,0.0121 64,-0.001522,0.005264,-0.01494,-0.008808,0.008364,-0.001127,-0.002591,0.001219,0.005374,-0.000922,0.001934,0.003509,-0.002557,0.006974,-0.00256
BelgianA,0.129758,0.140617,0.054506,0.031374,0.038 305,0.014131,0.003666,0.005554,0.006804,0.006852,-0.004991,0.005155,-0.011338,-0.005698,0.014794,-0.000672,-0.010831,0.001301,0.002497,-0.000217,0.003552,0.002523,0.000592,0.008073,0.000 583
BelgianB,0.128469,0.141091,0.050459,0.028037,0.038 633,0.010505,0.003509,0.005,0.00634,0.011517,-0.004136,0.004096,-0.010852,-0.010909,0.012577,0.005012,-0.002156,0.002441,0.001366,0.000275,0.003852,0.003 438,-0.000707,0.009303,-0.002203
BelgianC,0.126875,0.142987,0.053249,0.023149,0.040 582,0.009501,0.00141,0.004738,0.010826,0.014397,-0.003161,0.006314,-0.012269,-0.009303,0.012034,0.001715,-0.004955,0.001098,0.001592,0.000367,0.002729,0.002 844,-0.001142,0.009335,-0.001932
Danish,0.131248,0.135065,0.066378,0.052438,0.04130 3,0.019457,0.005159,0.007401,0.003436,-0.002558,-0.005359,0.00348,-0.008507,-0.007093,0.018669,0.006117,-0.006519,0.002047,0.00324,0.004346,0.00564,0.00243 5,0.000692,0.013774,0.000201
Icelandic,0.132698,0.133626,0.067819,0.05631,0.039 366,0.022962,0.003349,0.008519,0.002642,6.1e-05,-0.005481,0.00517,-0.006368,-0.009083,0.023072,0.005293,-0.011691,0.001911,0.001739,0.003887,0.009255,0.002 803,-0.000842,0.014018,0.000828
Norwegian,0.132092,0.129455,0.068051,0.054531,0.04 0323,0.019871,0.00416,0.006092,0.006151,-0.002287,-0.004644,0.004275,-0.009236,-0.01015,0.020253,0.006557,-0.0072,0.00331,0.002976,0.004108,0.005681,0.00409, 0.000887,0.014107,-6.9e-05
Swedish,0.132193,0.125885,0.072642,0.058972,0.0402 64,0.02079,0.00638,0.009294,0.003649,-0.006663,-0.004203,0.000533,-0.003045,-0.003352,0.014593,0.005865,-0.005106,0.001622,0.002991,0.005015,0.006773,0.002 526,0.001253,0.011594,0.000212
Polish,0.13184,0.12927,0.069868,0.057738,0.040676, 0.021713,0.008678,0.010863,-0.000933,-0.018553,-0.004349,-0.006419,0.013093,0.018629,-0.007024,-0.00056,0.001546,-7.4e-05,0.002695,0.001287,-0.003129,-0.003119,0.005606,-0.003333,-8.8e-05
Polish_Kashubian,0.136588,0.133034,0.07533,0.06435 8,0.044931,0.021196,0.010517,0.01223,-0.003528,-0.021868,-0.004182,-0.005283,0.009217,0.018063,-0.002613,-0.00116,-0.002021,-0.001077,0.003174,0.001782,-0.003338,-0.004792,0.004499,0.001536,0.00021
Polish_Silesian,0.131466,0.130496,0.070522,0.04990 4,0.037545,0.019383,0.004583,0.013038,0.000307,-0.014943,-0.001705,-0.000674,0.002156,0.014794,-0.007057,-0.002585,0.010887,0,-0.00176,0.002126,-0.00156,-0.002349,0.004252,0.007049,-0.000479
SC_Official_AVE_Scaled,0.1269125,0.129988,0.056568 5,0.054587,0.0289285,0.0129685,0.0043475,0.006,0.0 03477,-0.000091,-0.006577,0.0029225,-0.0059465,-0.008051,0.01554,0.001591,0.0012385,0.006271,-0.0027025,0.0055025,0.0092335,-0.0042045,0.0029575,0.015424,0.0021555
Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
57.2 Irish
42.8 Norwegian




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| Received: 82/0 Given: 49/0 |
Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 4.8148% / 0.04814806
59.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
27.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
13.2 France_Rochedane
Target: Asega_scaled
Distance: 6.4071% / 0.06407097
61.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
25.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
12.6 Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1
Distance to: Asega_scaled
0.02952064 Norwegian
0.03003325 Icelandic
0.03084252 Swedish
0.03421501 Danish
0.03691813 Irish
0.03763814 Shetlandic
0.03838586 Scottish
0.03993830 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.04136781 Dutch
0.04238564 English
0.04395343 Welsh
0.04522813 German_Hamburg
0.04546507 English_Cornwall
0.05022898 French_Brittany
0.05253291 German
0.05630822 German_Erlangen
0.05658576 German_East
0.05839092 BelgianA
0.06222983 French_Seine-Maritime
0.06318254 Polish_Silesian
0.06322209 BelgianB
0.06448952 Polish_Kashubian
0.06454967 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.06591216 French_Nord
0.06798783 Polish
Distance to: Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
0.12518432 Asega_scaled
0.14145541 SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
0.14173379 Swedish
0.14528423 Icelandic
0.14538280 Norwegian
0.14626788 Polish_Kashubian
0.14691370 Shetlandic
0.14743516 Danish
0.14835555 Polish
0.14868644 Irish
0.14977183 German_Hamburg
0.15040774 Polish_Silesian
0.15090875 Scottish
0.15293987 Dutch
0.15379892 German_East
0.15599082 English
0.15648903 Welsh
0.15814252 German_Erlangen
0.15823242 German
0.15944160 English_Cornwall
0.16106085 French_Brittany
0.16365252 French_Seine-Maritime
0.16515663 BelgianA
0.16857903 BelgianB
0.17149021 French_Pas-de-Calais
Eala Frya Fresena



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| Received: 5,592/4 Given: 6,412/2 |
Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
57.2 Irish
42.8 Norwegian
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