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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Gibraltar as well.
    I think you might be getting such high Yamnaya is lack of appropriate HG samples for you, personally. If you add in Karelia and Latvia HG I imagine your Yamnaya would drop if you have that much Finnish East.

    Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
    Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
    Russia_Karelia_HG:I0061,0.125205,0.034528,0.137272 ,0.204137,-0.015695,0.057451,-0.026791,-0.03046,-0.01084,-0.090571,0.025982,-0.009591,0.022745,-0.048581,0.019679,0.016309,-0.022426,0.0019,-0.006913,0.017258,-0.004617,0.011747,0.007025,-0.020485,-0.008502
    Russia_Karelia_HG:I0211,0.126344,0.033512,0.126335 ,0.220933,0.002462,0.054941,-0.012691,-0.011999,0.00859,-0.086015,0.007632,-0.030723,0.047571,-0.017616,0.014386,0.04097,-0.018515,0.001774,-0.005908,0.002376,-0.012977,0.014096,0.00949,-0.027233,-0.005868

    If I add these 4 here above my result is 56.8% Dairy-lover:

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.4814% / 0.02481354

    35.6 Gibraltar_EN
    18.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
    17.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    16.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
    7.6 Latvia_HG.SG
    4.0 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
    0.8 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya

    Finnish_East should show more Barcin than Gibraltar, and more Latvia_HG:

    Target: Finnish_East
    Distance: 4.8403% / 0.04840337
    28.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
    21.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
    18.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    12.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
    10.6 Latvia_HG
    8.2 Gibraltar_EN
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    I think you might be getting such high Yamnaya is lack of appropriate HG samples for you, personally. If you add in Karelia and Latvia HG I imagine your Yamnaya would drop if you have that much Finnish East.

    Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
    Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
    Russia_Karelia_HG:I0061,0.125205,0.034528,0.137272 ,0.204137,-0.015695,0.057451,-0.026791,-0.03046,-0.01084,-0.090571,0.025982,-0.009591,0.022745,-0.048581,0.019679,0.016309,-0.022426,0.0019,-0.006913,0.017258,-0.004617,0.011747,0.007025,-0.020485,-0.008502
    Russia_Karelia_HG:I0211,0.126344,0.033512,0.126335 ,0.220933,0.002462,0.054941,-0.012691,-0.011999,0.00859,-0.086015,0.007632,-0.030723,0.047571,-0.017616,0.014386,0.04097,-0.018515,0.001774,-0.005908,0.002376,-0.012977,0.014096,0.00949,-0.027233,-0.005868

    If I add these 4 here above my result is 56.8% Dairy-lover:

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.4814% / 0.02481354

    35.6 Gibraltar_EN
    18.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
    17.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    16.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
    7.6 Latvia_HG.SG
    4.0 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
    0.8 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya

    Finnish_East should show more Barcin than Gibraltar, and more Latvia_HG:

    Target: Finnish_East
    Distance: 4.8403% / 0.04840337
    28.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
    21.6 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
    18.8 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    12.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
    10.6 Latvia_HG
    8.2 Gibraltar_EN
    Drops to 59% dairy lover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asega View Post
    Drops to 59% dairy lover.
    This is the last one for now, based again on averages along with the NE HG:

    Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
    France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
    Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
    Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
    Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
    Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
    Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

    my result


    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.9848% / 0.02984776
    52.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    35.8 Gibraltar_EN
    4.8 Latvia_HG
    4.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
    2.6 Latvia_HG.SG

    Your results are confusing so far. You should be lining up more NW.

    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    This is the last one for now, based again on averages along with the NE HG:

    Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
    France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
    Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
    Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
    Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
    Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
    Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237

    my result


    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.9848% / 0.02984776
    52.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    35.8 Gibraltar_EN
    4.8 Latvia_HG
    4.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
    2.6 Latvia_HG.SG

    Your results are confusing so far. You should be lining up more NW.

    56.4%
    Eala Frya Fresena

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    try this, NO ADC: can you show me aggregate and not aggregate?

    Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
    France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
    Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18793,0.126344,0.089367,0.03 6581,0.099161,-0.013541,0.040718,0.007755,0.004154,-0.040291,-0.06032,-0.005196,0.002548,0.002527,-0.019542,0.020765,0.00358,-0.017602,-0.003167,0.003394,0.017759,-0.000624,-0.006677,0.010969,0.012773,0.001676
    Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794,0.120652,0.120848,0.04 2615,0.063308,0.003385,0.032909,0.01081,0.004615,-0.04295,-0.038999,0.005521,-0.007044,0.000149,-0.012524,0.022258,0.013392,-0.002086,-0.001647,0.001006,-0.001626,-0.007612,-0.014591,0.008627,0.006868,0.008382
    Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5117,0.120652,0.1 635,0.031678,-0.058463,0.076937,-0.023985,-0.00282,-0.006461,0.041109,0.071983,-0.003085,0.002098,-0.023934,-0.000963,-0.027823,0.023999,0.033769,0.007981,0.006662,-0.012506,-0.011729,0.014962,-0.009367,-0.003976,-0.001557
    Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5118,0.119514,0.1 66547,0.023004,-0.05491,0.070782,-0.02761,-0.00564,0.007154,0.049086,0.072894,0.002598,0.0179 84,-0.020515,-0.007707,-0.02728,0.018828,0.026729,0.00228,0.014078,-0.003502,0.00025,0.008408,-0.010599,-0.016388,-0.002155
    Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya:I5119,0.120652,0.1 77718,0.027907,-0.059109,0.065243,-0.029841,-0.000235,-0.002077,0.033337,0.08474,0.003248,0.012739,-0.015461,0.012386,-0.032709,-0.004243,0.015776,-0.00076,0.011941,-0.005753,-0.008111,0.000371,-0.000493,-0.014219,0.00491
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    Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1001,0.118376,0.0842 89,0.037335,0.11402,-0.038776,0.040718,0.012926,-0.002769,-0.06013,-0.070708,0.003085,-0.002248,0.001784,-0.021607,0.03963,0.015513,0.002608,0.00152,-0.003017,0.004252,-0.003119,0.007172,0.005793,0.018436,-0.010777
    Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:RK1007,0.10927,0.07108 7,0.019233,0.112728,-0.043393,0.037092,-0.00282,-0.011307,-0.064834,-0.080731,-0.007957,-0.008093,-0.002825,-0.037571,0.03108,0.012066,-0.017602,-0.006208,-0.011816,0.002501,0.00861,0.005441,0.004067,0.0071 09,-0.002994
    Russia_Caucasus_EBA_Yamnaya:ZO2002,0.120652,0.0863 2,0.029415,0.099807,-0.028928,0.044344,0.00611,-0.003231,-0.055426,-0.069067,0.002273,-0.010041,-0.003419,-0.010322,0.029316,-0.006629,-0.022556,-0.002914,-0.008422,0.004752,-0.004243,0.009769,0.011955,0.012411,-0.003952
    Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.084289,0.04714,0.113697,-0.02462,0.027331,0.00799,0,-0.050517,-0.063965,0.00065,0.002548,0.001784,-0.025735,0.03393,0.006364,0.01004,-0.005954,-0.008422,0.02001,-0.013476,-0.005688,0.015652,0.023979,0.006347
    Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG,0. 103579,0.088351,0.061094,0.120803,-0.028928,0.044901,0.001175,-0.005769,-0.066879,-0.087838,-0.006008,3.00E-04,-0.001635,-0.024772,0.004886,0.012729,0.008605,0.005828,-0.001885,0.003627,-0.00287,-0.008408,0.027238,0.02892,-0.018801
    Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG,0. 118376,0.09546,0.045632,0.118219,-0.031083,0.039324,0.00658,-0.004615,-0.042132,-0.072894,-0.002761,0.000899,-0.000743,-0.024634,0.034609,0.00411,-0.014342,0.001267,0.00905,0.007754,-0.005366,-0.000247,0.005793,0.017834,-0.006826
    Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE550_noUDG.SG,0. 125205,0.096475,0.04714,0.10756,-0.02462,0.04267,0.000705,-0.008307,-0.048063,-0.070525,0.003248,-0.003297,-0.008028,-0.017203,0.035559,0.019756,0.002217,-0.005068,0.001634,0.009254,0.000125,0.006925,0.021 815,0.01446,0.002994
    Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE552_noUDG.SG,0. 10927,0.089367,0.034318,0.107883,-0.036007,0.051874,0.00564,0.000462,-0.061766,-0.082917,0.001461,0.003297,-0.002527,-0.026424,0.031759,0.019358,0.00352,-0.003041,-0.000377,0.010505,-0.002246,-0.000124,0.004437,0.022774,-0.004191
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0231,0.124067,0.081242, 0.0445,0.114666,-0.034468,0.049364,-0.00188,-0.007846,-0.052972,-0.073441,0.003735,0.005845,0.00223,-0.023671,0.034202,0.024662,0.007302,0.000253,0.003 142,0.013131,-0.006988,0.004328,0.002218,0.011929,-0.000239
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0357,0.126344,0.091398, 0.038843,0.109821,-0.029544,0.040718,0.006345,-0.00923,-0.040905,-0.065969,-0.001299,-0.001798,-0.003717,-0.02257,0.03678,0.02148,0.001825,0.005321,-0.004651,0.003126,0.004118,0.00643,0.008874,0.0145 8,-0.005508
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370,0.124067,0.085304, 0.048271,0.113051,-0.027082,0.04267,0.00705,-0.001385,-0.064016,-0.069432,0.000487,-0.000899,0.004014,-0.029451,0.037595,0.013126,0.004563,-0.000633,-0.007039,0.015132,0.003369,-0.009892,0.009613,0.022533,-0.003113
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0429,0.132035,0.089367, 0.042615,0.13017,-0.02739,0.049364,0.007755,0.001846,-0.059925,-0.076175,0.001461,-0.007194,0.002973,-0.015689,0.040445,0.021347,0.004955,0,0.008547,0.0 2101,-0.003244,0.004328,0.022678,0.017111,-0.01437
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0438,0.124067,0.088351, 0.042615,0.118865,-0.029236,0.048527,0.00047,0.001154,-0.062789,-0.07745,0.001461,0.005695,-0.005946,-0.027387,0.033387,0.005038,0.007953,-0.007221,-0.003897,0.017759,-0.001373,0.000742,0.017255,0.023979,-0.005508
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439,0.127482,0.09546,0 .037712,0.113374,-0.018157,0.033467,0.0047,-0.005077,-0.053176,-0.057587,0.003085,-0.002098,-0.006541,-0.025598,0.038952,0.01432,-0.001434,-0.007095,-0.001257,0.018259,-0.001872,0.006801,0.016269,0.025546,-0.009819
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443,0.125205,0.091398, 0.039975,0.111436,-0.028005,0.046575,0.00564,-0.005769,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.002111,-0.00015,0.001041,-0.01968,0.042616,0.004773,-0.016428,0.00038,-0.001257,0.009379,0.003868,-0.002226,0.000986,0.01699,0.002275
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0444,0.126344,0.087336, 0.048271,0.116927,-0.02462,0.04769,0.00564,-0.000231,-0.049904,-0.072894,-0.000812,-3.00E-04,0.003122,-0.039498,0.030266,0.020684,0.000261,0.000887,-0.007039,0.00988,-0.014974,0.002968,0.011092,0.019039,0.003353
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I7489,0.122929,0.093429, 0.043369,0.11079,-0.032314,0.043786,0.0047,0,-0.057471,-0.082371,0.006496,0.004046,-0.012042,-0.008945,0.041123,0.016176,-0.008996,-0.005194,-0.001885,0.004877,-0.010981,-0.001113,0.012078,0.014219,-0.007784
    Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446,0.127482,0.097491,0.0437 46,0.081719,-0.013541,0.039602,0.028671,0.002077,-0.036405,-0.066698,-0.000487,-0.001948,-0.007582,-0.017065,0.030673,0.029435,0.009518,-0.006208,-0.008296,0.014257,-0.011355,-0.014096,0.009983,0.032896,-0.010418
    Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I2105,0.118376,0.090382,0.0403 52,0.110144,-0.032621,0.038766,0.006815,0.003461,-0.056244,-0.076175,-0.00065,0.00015,-0.002527,-0.022432,0.031759,0.013789,0.002477,-0.005321,-0.002891,0.017133,0.004492,0.003339,0.003451,0.020 967,0.002155
    Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya:I3141_enhanced,0.121791,0.0924 13,0.053928,0.105299,-0.048317,0.041834,0.004465,0.011538,-0.058289,-0.080731,-0.001461,0.014387,0.013677,-0.010459,0.010993,0.003978,-0.018775,0.004814,0.005531,0.002626,-0.017469,0.017435,0.008627,0.019641,-0.011256
    Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
    Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113

    Mine: 58.8% Dairy-lover

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
    35.4 Gibraltar_EN
    15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya:I11446
    11.8 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE240_noUDG.SG
    10.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE546_noUDG.SG
    8.6 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0439
    6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya:I18794
    5.8 France_Rochedane:Rochedane
    4.2 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG:RISE547_noUDG.SG
    2.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0443
    0.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya:I0370

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.6033% / 0.02603342
    35.4 Gibraltar_EN
    26.0 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
    15.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
    11.0 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    6.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
    5.8 France_Rochedane
    What are you trying to figure out?

    Target: husband_scaled
    Distance: 5.2277% / 0.05227748
    22.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
    17.2 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
    13.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
    12.4 Latvia_HG.SG
    11.8 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
    10.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    9.6 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
    2.6 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG

    Target: Vessna_scaled
    Distance: 5.6409% / 0.05640923
    35.6 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
    20.8 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
    16.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
    15.8 Latvia_HG.SG
    6.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
    5.2 Russia_Karelia_HG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vessna View Post
    What are you trying to figure out?

    Target: husband_scaled
    Distance: 5.2277% / 0.05227748
    22.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
    17.2 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
    13.6 Bulgaria_EBA_Yamnaya
    12.4 Latvia_HG.SG
    11.8 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
    10.4 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    9.6 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
    2.6 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG

    Target: Vessna_scaled
    Distance: 5.6409% / 0.05640923
    35.6 Hungary_LateC_EBA_Baden_Yamnaya
    20.8 Ukraine_EBA_Yamnaya
    16.4 Russia_Kalmykia_EBA_Yamnaya.SG
    15.8 Latvia_HG.SG
    6.2 Serbia_EBA_Yamnaya
    5.2 Russia_Karelia_HG
    I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

    Try this one:

    Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
    France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
    Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
    Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
    Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
    Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
    Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
    Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
    Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
    Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
    USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
    Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
    Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
    Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

    mine

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963

    53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    36.0 Gibraltar_EN
    3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
    3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
    3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
    0.6 Latvia_HG
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

    Try this one:

    Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
    France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
    Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
    Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
    Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
    Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
    Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
    Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
    Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
    Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
    USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
    Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
    Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
    Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

    mine

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963

    53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    36.0 Gibraltar_EN
    3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
    3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
    3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
    0.6 Latvia_HG
    Target: Vessna_scaled
    Distance: 6.6341% / 0.06634091
    35.0 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    34.8 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    15.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
    14.0 Latvia_HG.SG
    0.8 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros

    Target: husband_scaled
    Distance: 5.5742% / 0.05574151
    31.2 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    29.2 Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG
    20.4 Russia_Karelia_HG
    13.4 Latvia_HG.SG
    3.0 Japan_HG_Jomon
    2.2 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
    0.6 Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

    Try this one:

    Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
    France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
    Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
    Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
    Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
    Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
    Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
    Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
    Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
    Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
    USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
    Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
    Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
    Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

    mine

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963

    53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    36.0 Gibraltar_EN
    3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
    3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
    3.0 Latvia_HG.SG
    0.6 Latvia_HG
    I'm curious to know what you think the variables are at stake.
    Eala Frya Fresena

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    I was/am trying to understand how someone primarily NW European is scoring higher on the basic 3-way Yamnaya calc than a FULL Finnish_East average or individual sample. It doesn't make sense, does it? So if we add in some other HG, the Finns pick those up right away, but this guy I've been corresponding with is not showing them and he's getting western farmer, which also doesn't make sense per his Yamnaya result being so high. I think there are different variables at play here, but for me it's interesting to compare to him as he is from the Netherlands and my closest modern match is Dutch, and we are scoring higher than all the other NW nations, on averages.

    Try this one:

    Turkey_Barcin_LN.SG:Bar25.SG,0.112685,0.182795,0.0 10936,-0.10013,0.055087,-0.046854,-0.00235,-0.002769,0.046836,0.081642,0.008607,0.010191,-0.015758,0.006193,-0.040173,-0.020021,0.00352,0.000507,0.011816,-0.014132,-0.008735,0.006306,-0.010969,-0.00494,-0.00467
    France_Rochedane:Rochedane,0.117238,0.112724,0.170 836,0.191217,0.149874,0.04769,0.010575,0.035306,0. 083241,0.034989,-0.013641,-0.020082,0.008622,0.00523,0.054831,0.066427,0.0087 36,0.014569,-0.021369,0.051775,0.094084,0.018672,-0.055092,-0.168217,0.010658
    Gibraltar_EN,0.130897,0.164516,0.040352,-0.060724,0.0834,-0.033188,-0.018331,0.007384,0.069947,0.096767,0.000162,0.022 48,-0.032408,-0.00523,-0.017372,-0.0118,-0.002999,0.012922,0.008422,-0.010755,0.002995,0.000124,-0.016022,-0.011809,0.001796
    Serbia_EN_Starcevo,0.127482,0.18178,0.018479,-0.074613,0.056626,-0.040997,-0.00094,-0.001846,0.032519,0.077086,0.001461,0.008992,-0.028097,-0.000963,-0.03298,-0.008221,0.007693,-0.000127,0.012193,-0.012131,-0.006239,0.003215,-0.008997,-0.006266,-0.003113
    Latvia_HG,0.13111,0.1008548,0.1807822,0.1974751,0. 1065198,0.0561443,0.0070649,0.0204943,0.0526009,-0.0261737,-0.0035319,-0.0181058,0.0270004,-0.0059351,0.0355418,0.0477736,0.0034469,0.0044104,-0.0065285,0.0427549,0.0605573,0.0122492,-0.0260517,-0.1122675,0.00949
    Latvia_HG.SG,0.129758,0.109677,0.178378,0.195416,0 .11356,0.056615,0.009635,0.023537,0.05604,-0.021504,-0.009743,-0.020382,0.028097,0.00578,0.043023,0.034473,-0.012256,0.010388,-0.004399,0.04227,0.066757,0.007666,-0.029826,-0.129777,0.006227
    Russia_Karelia_HG,0.1257745,0.03402,0.1318035,0.21 2535,-0.0066165,0.056196,-0.019741,-0.0212295,-0.001125,-0.088293,0.016807,-0.020157,0.035158,-0.0330985,0.0170325,0.0286395,-0.0204705,0.001837,-0.0064105,0.009817,-0.008797,0.0129215,0.0082575,-0.023859,-0.007185
    Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya,0.1258378,0.0892539,0.04 29079,0.1154556,-0.0278684,0.0446846,0.0044911,-0.0029487,-0.0548579,-0.0729957,0.0018583,0.0003497,-0.0016518,-0.0236099,0.0372629,0.015734,1.00E-07,-0.001478,-0.001704,0.0125059,-0.0031197,0.001374,0.0112292,0.0184362,-0.0045237
    Hungary_EN_HG_Koros,0.135449,0.122879,0.181018,0.1 54395,0.128947,0.042391,0.017156,0.037845,0.071379 ,0.008565,-0.002761,-0.013938,0.014717,-0.00234,0.026737,0.046406,0.018384,0.008488,-0.006788,0.046772,0.06239,0.011747,-0.038823,-0.12315,0.012933
    Italy_South_HG_Ostuni1,0.054635,0.031481,0.033941, 0.081396,0.061858,-0.000837,0.00188,-0.002769,0.064016,0.019864,-0.009094,-0.016635,0.008028,0.002202,0.009772,0.021745,0.009 518,0.001647,-0.021243,0.023136,0.036685,-0.000247,-0.017871,-0.064708,0.002515
    Japan_HG_Jomon,0.0106994,-0.3460924,-0.0530232,0.012274,0.0379146,0.0152274,-0.002773,-0.0007846,0.0256064,0.0189888,-0.0501782,-0.0083326,0.009098,-0.0063856,-0.0248098,-0.0170508,0.0053458,0.0094006,0.003922,-0.0048774,0.0638872,-0.0453804,0.0078138,0.0122908,-0.0984104
    USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP.SG,0.030732,-0.287395,0.085229,0.091732,-0.078784,-0.011992,-0.11257,-0.131071,-0.002863,-0.024055,-0.002273,-0.007044,0.005054,-0.011698,0.004479,0.003447,-0.000913,-0.005448,0.005782,0.01038,-0.01148,0.001731,0.009244,0.005784,-0.006347
    Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea,0.0463829,-0.3563239,0.1166952,0.0468754,-0.1182528,-0.0380163,-0.1210451,-0.1408066,0.000524,-0.0169138,0.0252411,-0.0061258,0.0095422,-0.0174007,-0.0335654,-0.0152809,-0.0027135,0.0128032,0.0331216,0.0191106,0.0258373,-0.0432939,0.0076259,0.0284905,0.0373021
    Russia_Ekven_OldBeringSea.SG,0.05122,-0.34528,0.109365,0.042636,-0.115406,-0.033746,-0.11163,-0.137763,0.010022,-0.017859,0.026632,0.002548,0.000595,-0.012937,-0.023344,-0.013657,-0.008866,0.013682,0.031173,0.016633,0.032443,-0.0298,0.010106,0.025184,0.028141
    Russia_Uelen_OldBeringSea,0.0483748,-0.351627,0.1144562,0.048127,-0.1167138,-0.0375805,-0.1277872,-0.144744,0,-0.0145788,0.023465,-0.0048708,0.0096257,-0.0164458,-0.0340318,-0.0108722,-0.0015318,0.0135558,0.0349125,0.0195408,0.0306958,-0.0475135,0.009983,0.0297932,0.0384695

    mine

    Target: SC_Official_AVE_Scaled
    Distance: 2.9800% / 0.02979963

    53.4 Russia_Samara_EBA_Yamnaya
    36.0 Gibraltar_EN
    3.6 Hungary_EN_HG_Koros
    3.4 Serbia_EN_Starcevo
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    Makes no sense for you to have more Yamnaya than a Northern Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vessna View Post
    Makes no sense for you to have more Yamnaya than a Northern Russian.
    Balto-Slavs (including you) suffer from Balto-Slavic drift (genetic drift) on G25, which is why you latch onto Latvian HG's.

    Davidski from Eurogenes has a blogpost explaining the phenomenon:

    https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2021/...st-vs.html?m=1

    Please note, Greg, that none of the Z scores reach significance, which means that these Northwest Europeans and Slavs are symmetrically related to Baltic_HG. They're also symmetrically related to other relevant ancient groups such as the Yamnaya steppe herders. This, of course, suggests that they harbor very similar levels of basically the same ancient genetic components.
    Now, Greg, if at least in terms of genetic ancestry, Latvians, Lithuanians, Belarusians, Poles and Ukrainians all qualify as Northeast Europeans, then what makes them different, as a group, from Northwest Europeans? Do you believe that the key factor is admixture from Baltic hunter-gatherers? Or is it genetic drift?

    Of course, considering all of the f4-stats above, logic dictates that it must be relatively recent genetic drift.
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