Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

[Polako]

This latest run is showing some weird results for people of mixed ancestry. I don't know what reasoning there could be for this, and Polako is probably the only person that could give us an explanation.

All my spreadsheet does is apply the RMSD formula to the data Polako has produced.

Well, it's easy, there's no cluster or ethnicity called "EnglishScottishWelsh DutchFrenchSlovakianGerman".

So the only groups we can match are those that are defined as groups.

[Polako]

This method of analysis is perhaps biased towards slightly more admixture of South Baltic origin. I too haven't got such high figures of Baltic and Finnish influences in other calculators.

It depends. If you're not in the project, then your South Baltic and Finnish scores will be higher. That's because if you're not one of the references yourself, then the algorithm will give you higher portions of components that are similar to your main component.

Also, I use more references from around that area, while Dienekes' has far fewer Russians. Individual variation, or lack of, will affect the outcomes.

[The Exiled King]

It depends. If you're not in the project, then your South Baltic and Finnish scores will be higher. That's because if you're not one of the references yourself, then the algorithm will give you higher portions of components that are similar to your main component.

Also, I use more references from around that area, while Dienekes' has far fewer Russians. Individual variation, or lack of, will affect the outcomes.

Can I be added to the Eurogenes project?

[Dr. van Winkle]

It depends. If you're not in the project, then your South Baltic and Finnish scores will be higher. That's because if you're not one of the references yourself, then the algorithm will give you higher portions of components that are similar to your main component.

Okay, let me send you my raw data set (to eurogenesblog@hotmail.com), so that you can analyze it.

[The Exiled King]

Okay, let me send you my raw data set (to eurogenesblog@hotmail.com), so that you can analyze it.

Is it ok if you are of mixed ancestry to be a part of Eurogenes?

[Dr. van Winkle]

Is it ok if you are of mixed ancestry to be a part of Eurogenes?

In fact I'm not of mixed heritage at all. I'm entirely German on the paper, quite in the same way as an American of "pure" German descent, whose ancestors emigrated to another country.

[The Exiled King]

In fact I'm not of mixed heritage at all. I'm entirely German on the paper, quite in the same way as an American of "pure" German descent, whose ancestors emigrated to another country.

No lol, I meant if I were to join the Eurogenes project would he accept an American of mixed ancestry?

[Polako]

Well, it's easy, there's no cluster or ethnicity called "EnglishScottishWelsh DutchFrenchSlovakianGerman".

So the only groups we can match are those that are defined as groups.

Actually, let me just expand on this comment, which was a bit half-arsed now that I think about it.

The important thing to understand, is that these tests are blind to ethnic labels, and driven solely by allele frequencies.

That's why a person of mixed German/Italian ancestry is likely to come out "French", and so, and so forth.

[Pallantides]

Update
http://bga101.blogspot.com/2012/04/t...ter-bunny.html


HvF1.12.Q

Baltic hunter gatherer 75.93%
Mediterranean farmer 22.05%
North Eurasian hunter gatherer 1.07%
Far Eastern farmer 0.83%
East African pastoralist 0.07%
Pygmy hunter gatherer 0.02%
Oceanian hunter gatherer 0.00%
Anatolian farmer 0.00%
Middle Eastern herder 0.00%
South American hunter gatherer 0.00%
South Asian hunter gatherer 0.00%


NEU1a.12.Q

North Sea 53.96%
Western European 32.72%
Western Volga 6.68%
South Baltic 5.83%
East Asian 0.74%
Siberian 0.69%
South Asian 0.00%
Caucasus 0.00%
Southwest Asian 0.00%
Amerindian 0.00%
Mediterranean 0.00%
Sub-Saharan African 0.00%

[Loki]

NEU.12.Q

46.78 North Sea
17.86 Mediterranean
15.73 Western Euro
5.79 Northeast Euro
4.19 Caucasus
4.08 South Baltic
2.65 Sub-Saharan
1.13 Middle Eastern
1.06 East Asian
0.62 South Asian
0.12 Amerindian
0.00 Siberian