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    Now that IllustrativeDNA introduced QAPDM service, I thought starting a thread where everyone shares QAPDM models would be resourceful.

    As a start, I am sharing this model:

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    Turkey_Marmara_Barcin_N.AG (Anatolian Neolithic Farmer)

    Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG (Eastern European Hunter-Gatherer)

    Luxembourg_Mesolithic.AG (Western European Hunter-Gatherer)

    Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic.SG (Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer)

    Iran_GanjDareh_N.AG (Neolithic Iranian Farmer)

    References

    Mbuti.DG

    Russia_AfontovaGora3_UP.AG

    Italy_Epigravettian.SG

    Russia_Kostenki14_UP.SG

    Turkey_Central_Pinarbasi_Epipaleolithic.AG

    Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.AG

    Russia_Tyumen_HG.AG

    Israel_Natufian.AG

    Morocco_Iberomaurusian.AG

    Georgia_Satsurblia_LateUP.SG

    Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG

    India_GreatAndaman_100BP.SG

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    Remove kostenki and Andaman from your rights. They're irrelevant to the model and will lead to worse pval
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    Works I would say
    Last edited by majevica; 07-13-2025 at 10:43 PM.

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    Z-score would be 1.6ish and I looked up where there have been published studies where z-scores like that are acceptable. P-value is well above 0.05

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    I seem to get red p-value and feasibility


    Y-DNA: I-Y3548 *updated*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opie View Post
    Now that IllustrativeDNA introduced QAPDM service, I thought starting a thread where everyone shares QAPDM models would be resourceful.

    As a start, I am sharing this model:

    Sources

    Turkey_Marmara_Barcin_N.AG (Anatolian Neolithic Farmer)

    Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG (Eastern European Hunter-Gatherer)

    Luxembourg_Mesolithic.AG (Western European Hunter-Gatherer)

    Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic.SG (Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer)

    Iran_GanjDareh_N.AG (Neolithic Iranian Farmer)

    References

    Mbuti.DG

    Russia_AfontovaGora3_UP.AG

    Italy_Epigravettian.SG

    Russia_Kostenki14_UP.SG

    Turkey_Central_Pinarbasi_Epipaleolithic.AG

    Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.AG

    Russia_Tyumen_HG.AG

    Israel_Natufian.AG

    Morocco_Iberomaurusian.AG

    Georgia_Satsurblia_LateUP.SG

    Iran_Wezmeh_N.SG

    India_GreatAndaman_100BP.SG
    I did this with your sources and references except India_GreatAndaman_100BP.SG and
    Russia_Kostenki14_UP.SG


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    Testing the near east spice I see in G25 and Eurogenes. I have had AndreiDNA run this 2-way combination. I’m testing it myself with I believe a slightly different set of right populations. I also still cannot use my merged file, so I’m using my DNA file from MyHeritage.com. One is allowed two free kit uploads. It’s visible in the list, however, I cannot select it. I used the Human Origins Dataset for this. Click image for larger version. 

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    I've been trying some medieval models but they keep getting rejected. Any tips how to improve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    I've been trying some medieval models but they keep getting rejected. Any tips how to improve?
    Try Sunghir + Shtike

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    Another model run with EGY_TIP_JK2134:

    Sweden_IA_2 VK522:

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    Raw Output:

    pat wt dof chisq p f4rank Sweden_IA_2.SG_VK522.SG Egypt_ThirdIntermediatePeriod.AG_JK2134.AG feasible best dofdiff chisqdiff p_nested
    00 0 13 17.260705192920177 0.18765859345185965 1 0.8362559026573537 0.16374409734264636 TRUE NA NA NA NA
    01 1 14 29.014137137307152 0.010404434189942862 0 1 NA TRUE TRUE 0 -43.42078257238162 1
    10 1 14 72.43491970968877 6.968636070378395e-10 0 NA 1 TRUE TRUE NA NA NA


    Denmark_IA VK532:

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    pat wt dof chisq p f4rank Denmark_IA.SG_VK532.SG Egypt_ThirdIntermediatePeriod.AG_JK2134.AG feasible best dofdiff chisqdiff p_nested
    00 0 13 11.39641196621108 0.5776461449763756 1 0.8878444657143866 0.11215553428561346 TRUE NA NA NA NA
    01 1 14 15.971954105271262 0.31509001573731876 0 1 NA TRUE TRUE 0 -56.16501842952157 1
    10 1 14 72.13697253479283 7.896541490264353e-10 0 NA 1 TRUE TRUE NA NA NA


    Scotland_MIA I2982:

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    pat wt dof chisq p f4rank Scotland_MIA.AG_I2982.AG Egypt_ThirdIntermediatePeriod.AG_JK2134.AG feasible best dofdiff chisqdiff p_nested
    00 0 13 21.56134889984603 0.062542307243352 1 0.8882680436329078 0.11173195636709223 TRUE NA NA NA NA
    01 1 14 25.82020873179249 0.027282545571266602 0 1 NA TRUE TRUE 0 -48.52234493063585 1
    10 1 14 74.34255366242834 3.1231520993584695e-10 0 NA 1 TRUE TRUE NA NA NA



    I had AndreiDNA model me with Old Kingdom Egyptian (NUE001) + Denmark IA and from there I copied the reference populations he used in that model run:

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    I had to substitute Russia_Karelia_HG to Russia_Samara_HG. For some reason I couldn't find it in IllustrativeDNA.
    Also, I'm not sure If he did this, but I pooled together a number of reference populations into one. For example, I combined Taforalt 9-13 into the Iberomaurusian reference:

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    Full reference list:

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