Gannicus' Y-Haplogroup (Big Y)

[Gannicus]

I decided to create a dedicated thread for this because it's going to contain a good amount of information. Any updates in the future will be posted here.

Last Christmas I decided to do the Big Y DNA test that FamilyTreeDNA.com offers. It was on sale, so I decided to make the investment. I'm someone who loves history and genetics along with it. This made for an excellent Christmas gift for myself.

For this test to make sure 23&Me was right, I ordered a kit to send in new cheek swabs. The results were a bit of a surprise due to the ancient and modern populations it's more associated with. I expected something along the lines of R1b or I1. Instead, the results came back as J2a1. This paternal haplogroup has more to do with the Mediterranean and Near East, and not Northwest Europe. My terminal SNP is J-FTC5373.

Y-haplogroup J2 is believed to have originated in Anatolia, the Caucasus, and western Iran around 15,000-22,000 years ago. The oldest male J2a remains are found in Hotu Cave in northern Iran dated to 9100-8600 BC




More information can be found here:

https://j2-m172.info/2016/06/first-a...first-farmers/





Below I'm going to share several screenshots of my results:










The next set of screenshots are my Y-dna matches called ancient connections on FamilytreeDNA.com

"Here are some ancient relatives from your direct father’s line based on DNA testing of archaeological remains from around the world."

Minoans:











Punic Sicily:





Bronze Age Anatolia:





Roman:




Medieval France:




Belgium (1286-1600AD):




Romania (1400-1600 AD)




Renaissance Italy (Rome):




There are more I'll share them in a separate post. I'll reach the post limit if I continue.



If you all have done the Y-haplogroup test, especially the Big Y with FamilyTreeDNA, I'd like to see your ancient matches you all get on there.

[Gannicus]

Here are the other Ancient Y-dna matches:



















The following are more surprising matches. The common ancestor is further back in time, however, still surprising to me:

[Gannicus]

G25 Coordinates of my ancient Y-DNA matches (The ones I could find):


Italy_Sicily_Motya_Punic_Early:I22232__BC_453__Cov _22.85%,0.066017,0.146236,0.013576,-0.068476,0.03416,-0.024263,-0.011045,-0.013384,0.047859,0.044101,0.005196,-0.017684,-0.002081,-0.003303,0.001493,-0.013524,-0.015646,0.005828,-0.005656,0.006628,-0.011605,-0.011005,0.003204,-0.010242,0.000838

Greece_Crete_HgCharalambos_EMBA:HGC006__BC_2171__C ov_91.98%,0.118376,0.159438,-0.018479,-0.09044,0.028928,-0.040718,-0.00047,-0.005538,0.011862,0.060867,0.00406,0.01139,-0.019326,0.005505,-0.028908,-0.006364,0.017341,0.00228,0.004022,-0.015632,-0.007986,0.006925,0.000246,0.003856,0.001437

Greece_Crete_HgCharalambos_EMBA:HGC017__BC_2100__C ov_79.16%,0.112685,0.178733,-0.015839,-0.089794,0.026159,-0.043507,0.000235,-0.009,0.01084,0.050479,0.004709,0.014387,-0.019326,-0.002202,-0.03393,-0.013259,0.004824,0.005701,0.00817,-0.013256,-0.011729,0.005812,-0.006286,0.003253,0.000359

Greece_Crete_HgCharalambos_EMBA:HGC009__BC_1972__C ov_67.71%,0.114961,0.168578,-0.020742,-0.090763,0.029852,-0.039602,-0.00376,-0.009,0.003477,0.055582,0.007307,0.01169,-0.023488,-0.001239,-0.025244,0.003447,0.029467,0.004941,0.008547,-0.012006,-0.010731,0.003091,-0.006532,0.003374,-0.010538

Israel_MLBA:I4519__BC_1475__Cov_10.32%,0.092197,0. 148267,-0.067505,-0.11079,-0.01908,-0.040718,-0.011516,0.002538,0.009408,0.028064,0.002923,-0.001948,0.007433,0.011698,-0.005157,-0.01432,-0.011343,-0.005574,0.011061,0.005503,0.001996,-0.000618,-0.001602,-0.010604,0.010059

Israel_MLBA:I2190__BC_1401__Cov_25.18%,0.081953,0. 140143,-0.073916,-0.076228,-0.017234,-0.03514,-0.002585,-0.007154,0.00225,-0.00164,0.01429,-0.014237,0.02661,-0.00234,0.000407,0.010607,-0.017993,0.021537,0.012318,0.003001,0.003244,0.004 946,-0.009613,-0.013978,-0.000479

Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern:R969__AD_1650__Cov_92.4 8%,0.113823,0.152329,0.001508,-0.031654,0.01508,-0.014502,-0.000235,0.002538,0.004295,0.023691,0.009419,0.001 948,-0.010258,-0.01101,-0.004343,0.010342,0.011735,0.003294,0.000628,0.000 625,-0.005366,0.002844,0.000863,0.005422,0.000479

Turkey_East_Arslantepe_EBA:ART001__BC_2392__Cov_68 .30%,0.092197,0.158423,-0.060716,-0.108206,-0.013541,-0.036814,-0.00188,-0.012461,-0.005522,0.012757,0.00406,-0.001948,0.00773,0.003028,-0.014658,-0.001458,0.003781,0.001014,0.005279,-0.003126,0.004742,0.00272,-0.008381,-0.002289,0.007544

Italy_Imperial_oLevant:R1550__AD_136__Cov_60.99%,0 .081953,0.140143,-0.048271,-0.07752,-0.013849,-0.024542,-0.012456,-0.006231,0.014726,0.006925,0,-0.001049,0.007136,-0.008945,-0.000136,0.014717,0.016037,0.002027,-0.007039,0.003126,-0.002496,0.006801,0.002958,-0.001807,0.001916

Italy_Imperial:R115__AD_100__Cov_71.05%,0.106994,0 .144205,-0.019987,-0.060401,0,-0.013945,-0.001175,0.001615,0.000818,0.020957,0.002273,0.004 646,-0.006541,0.003853,-0.011672,-0.000398,0.008996,0.004434,0.004274,-0.012756,-0.005989,0.005812,-0.002465,0.003615,-0.001437

Croatia_Roman:R3743__AD_152__Cov_51.91%,0.122929,0 .161469,0.010182,-0.032623,0.032621,-0.01004,0.00094,0.004384,0.005113,0.033714,0.00828 2,0.005395,-0.010852,0.003028,-0.015608,-0.011005,0.002999,0.005828,0.007668,-0.013882,-0.011355,0.005564,0.002095,0.006507,-0.005029

Turkey_Central_Bogazkoy-Hattusa_RomanImperial:BOG024__AD_160__Cov_44.57%,0 .105855,0.150298,-0.041106,-0.064923,-0.013233,-0.021196,0.000235,-0.005077,-0.000818,0.025878,-0.001461,0.001349,-0.020961,0.014588,-0.007057,-0.00053,0.004955,0.00076,0.000754,-0.006003,-0.004367,0.001978,-0.002465,0.005061,-0.003592

Croatia_Roman:R3665__AD_170__Cov_36.36%,0.113823,0 .147252,-0.025267,-0.062662,0.011694,-0.019522,-0.00141,-0.005307,-0.007158,0.025331,-0.001299,-0.003147,-0.003865,-0.004404,-0.013979,0.008751,0.028033,-0.003294,-0.005656,-0.005002,-0.011979,0.000247,-0.001849,-0.002651,-0.005748

Italy_Sardinia_LateAntiquity:I12220__AD_644__Cov_1 9.52%,0.092197,0.159438,-0.007542,-0.056525,0.018773,-0.033467,0.00141,-0.001154,0.015748,0.030433,0.003573,0.002698,0.005 798,-0.010735,-0.011129,-0.002652,0.013821,0.008108,-0.011564,-0.005253,-0.008984,0.008037,-0.003574,-0.019641,-0.003592

Armenia_Bragdzor_UrartianIA:I16546__BC_850__Cov_15 .47%,0.094473,0.13405,-0.074293,-0.045543,-0.037545,-0.016176,0.006345,-0.014538,-0.070765,-0.030069,-0.008607,0.011839,-0.017245,-0.003578,0.006379,-0.009944,0.017602,-0.008235,-0.016466,0.023511,0.019341,0.005812,-0.006779,0.001687,0.000599

Armenia_Bragdzor_UrartianIA:I16536__BC_826__Cov_17 .49%,0.110408,0.126941,-0.050911,-0.029716,-0.036007,-0.005857,0.00846,-0.008077,-0.062789,-0.035718,-0.003248,0.003447,-0.013231,-0.006881,-0.007057,-0.004773,0.012386,-0.004434,0.011061,0.009254,0.008485,0.012242,-0.000493,0.003374,0.000718

Sudan_KulubnartiS_ChristianPeriod:I6325__AD_727__C ov_44.76%,-0.217402,0.109677,-0.032432,-0.07106,0.004616,-0.041276,-0.022561,0.011076,0.086514,-0.045923,-0.004547,-0.007343,0.006987,-0.008808,0.020494,-0.012331,0.000261,-0.010135,0.003142,0.006378,-0.005366,-0.004575,0.002588,0.003976,-0.001676

Sudan_KulubnartiS_ChristianPeriod:I6255__AD_812__C ov_49.62%,-0.211711,0.111708,-0.028661,-0.078812,0.003693,-0.037092,-0.024206,0.010846,0.087332,-0.050479,-0.006496,-0.008093,0.010406,-0.000688,0.009365,-0.019623,-0.000782,-0.015583,0.003142,-0.003252,0.002995,0.00272,0.001109,-0.007471,0.002275

Sudan_KulubnartiS_ChristianPeriod:I17475__AD_825__ Cov_19.86%,-0.204882,0.119832,-0.05242,-0.086564,0.004001,-0.043507,-0.022561,0.011307,0.096126,-0.061049,-0.004547,-0.003897,0.011744,-0.007844,0.009093,-0.011138,-0.004955,-0.019383,0.009553,-0.009254,-0.001497,-0.013231,0.000986,0.005422,0.001796

Germany_Medieval_Jewish:I13870__AD_1350__Cov_31.57 %,0.094473,0.148267,-0.01697,-0.057494,0.008001,-0.024542,-0.00282,-0.000692,0.019839,0.008018,0.005034,0.004946,0.016 204,-0.004679,-0.002036,0.007027,0.006389,-0.000887,-0.004902,-0.014882,-0.00025,0.002102,-0.008258,0.006989,0.003353

[Gannicus]

https://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html

I shared this website in Gallop's thread. According to it my Y-line most recently is from Italy. I'm not too sure because I don't know how many people have tested. My Y lineage appears to be rare or undertested on FTDNA.com.

I'm also not sure how accurate the dates are on this SNP tracker website.

[Gannicus]

I had my DNA files merged on DNAGenics.com for G25 coordinates and better coverage overall. Paying for the merge unlocked my paternal haplogroup. It's fairly detailed but not quite as specific as FamilyTreeDNA.com






"Y-DNA haplogroup J is a major paternal lineage that has played a critical role in the genetic history of the Middle East, the Mediterranean, and parts of Europe, Africa, and Central Asia. It is closely associated with the spread of agricultural societies and the rise of ancient civilizations, including those in the Near East, Mesopotamia, and the Levant. Haplogroup J is thought to have originated in the Near East and is strongly linked to the diffusion of early farming cultures and Afro-Asiatic language speakers.


Origins and Evolution
Haplogroup J is believed to have originated approximately 45,000 years ago in the Near East, likely in the region encompassing the Levant or the Arabian Peninsula. It is a descendant of haplogroup IJ, which also gave rise to haplogroup I, primarily found in Europe. Haplogroup J and its subclades became prominent during the Neolithic Revolution, around 8,000 to 10,000 years ago, when farming practices spread from the Near East into Europe, North Africa, and South Asia.

The defining mutation for haplogroup J is M304, which marks its divergence from other branches of haplogroup IJ. Over time, haplogroup J diversified into two primary subclades, J1 and J2, each of which has its own distinct geographical and historical significance.

Major Subclades of Haplogroup J
Haplogroup J is divided into two major subclades, J1 and J2, each associated with different regions and migration patterns. These subclades provide insight into the complex demographic changes and migrations that shaped the ancient and modern populations of the Near East, Europe, North Africa, and beyond.

J1 (J-M267)
Haplogroup J1 is found primarily in the Arabian Peninsula, the Levant, and parts of North Africa. It is particularly associated with Semitic-speaking populations and has played a significant role in the genetic history of Arab populations, as well as in ancient Semitic civilizations such as the Akkadians, Amorites, and later Arab conquests.

J1a (J-P58): The most important and widespread subclade of J1, J1a is particularly common among populations in the Arabian Peninsula, including Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Oman, as well as in the Levant (Palestine, Jordan, Syria) and North Africa. J1a is associated with the early Semitic-speaking peoples and the Arab conquests that spread from the Arabian Peninsula across the Middle East and North Africa during the early Islamic period.

J1b (J-Z1828): Found at lower frequencies in the Caucasus and parts of Central Asia, J1b is less common than J1a but provides evidence of the ancient presence of haplogroup J1 in these regions.

J2 (J-M172)
Haplogroup J2 is most commonly found in the eastern Mediterranean, including the Levant, Anatolia, Greece, Italy, and parts of South Asia. J2 is strongly associated with the rise of early agricultural societies in the Fertile Crescent and the spread of ancient civilizations such as the Sumerians, Minoans, Greeks, and Phoenicians.

J2a (J-M410): The most widespread subclade of J2, found throughout the Mediterranean, the Middle East, and parts of Central and South Asia. J2a is associated with the spread of Neolithic farming communities from the Near East into Europe and the development of early civilizations in Mesopotamia, the Levant, and the Aegean.

J2a1 (J-L26): A significant subclade of J2a, found in high frequencies in the eastern Mediterranean, particularly among populations in Greece, Italy, Turkey, and the Levant. J2a1 is closely linked to the rise of ancient civilizations, including the Minoans and Mycenaeans in Greece and the Phoenicians in the Levant, who spread their culture and trade networks across the Mediterranean.
J2b (J-M12): Found primarily in the Balkans and parts of Italy, J2b is less common than J2a but still represents an important lineage for understanding the ancient peopling of southeastern Europe. J2b is associated with the spread of early agriculturalists into the Balkans during the Neolithic period.

Geographical Distribution
Haplogroup J is most commonly found in populations across the Middle East, the Mediterranean, North Africa, and parts of Central and South Asia. Its distribution reflects both ancient migration patterns and the diffusion of early agricultural practices, as well as the rise of several important ancient civilizations.

The Middle East
Haplogroup J is widespread in the Middle East, particularly in the Arabian Peninsula and the Levant. Subclade J1 is most common in the Arabian Peninsula, especially among populations in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Oman, where it is found at high frequencies. J1 is also prevalent among Bedouin populations in Jordan, Palestine, and Israel, as well as in Syria, Iraq, and parts of North Africa. The presence of J1 in these regions is closely linked to the spread of Semitic-speaking peoples and the rise of ancient Semitic civilizations, such as the Akkadians, Amorites, and later the Arab conquests during the early Islamic period.

Haplogroup J2, particularly J2a, is common in the Levant, Anatolia, and Mesopotamia. It is found at significant frequencies among populations in Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Israel, reflecting the deep historical roots of this haplogroup in the region. J2 is associated with early Neolithic farmers in the Fertile Crescent and the rise of civilizations such as the Sumerians, Babylonians, and Phoenicians.

The Mediterranean
Haplogroup J2 is particularly common in the eastern Mediterranean, including Greece, Italy, and the islands of the Aegean Sea. In Greece, J2 is found at high frequencies, particularly among populations in Crete and other parts of the Aegean, where it reflects the ancient presence of the Minoans and Mycenaeans, two of the earliest civilizations in Europe.

In Italy, J2 is common in both the southern and northern parts of the country, where it reflects the influence of ancient Mediterranean cultures, including the Greeks, Phoenicians, and Etruscans. Haplogroup J2 is also found in high frequencies among Jewish populations, particularly among Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, where it is associated with their ancient Levantine origins.

North Africa
Haplogroup J1 is found at moderate frequencies in North Africa, particularly among Berber-speaking populations in Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia. Its presence in North Africa is linked to the Arab expansion during the early Islamic period, when Arab armies and settlers spread from the Arabian Peninsula across North Africa and the Iberian Peninsula.

Europe
In Europe, haplogroup J2 is found at significant frequencies in the Balkans, Italy, and Greece. In the Balkans, J2 is common among populations in Albania, Kosovo, and southern Italy, where it reflects the ancient spread of Neolithic farmers from the Near East and the later influence of Greek and Roman civilizations.

South Asia
Haplogroup J2 is also found at moderate frequencies in South Asia, particularly in northern India and Pakistan. The presence of J2 in South Asia is likely the result of ancient migrations from the Near East, as well as the spread of Indo-European speakers during the Bronze Age.

Historical and Cultural Significance
Haplogroup J has played a central role in the development of some of the world’s most important ancient civilizations. Its presence in the Near East and the Mediterranean is closely tied to the rise of agriculture and the spread of early farming communities during the Neolithic period, as well as the subsequent rise of complex societies in Mesopotamia, Egypt, and the Mediterranean.

The Neolithic Revolution
Haplogroup J, particularly subclade J2, is strongly associated with the spread of agriculture from the Near East into Europe during the Neolithic Revolution, which began around 8,000 years ago. As farming communities expanded from the Fertile Crescent into the Balkans and across the Mediterranean, they brought haplogroup J2 with them. The spread of agriculture led to the rise of settled communities, the development of new technologies, and the eventual emergence of ancient civilizations.

Ancient Civilizations of the Near East
Haplogroup J2 played a key role in the development of the early civilizations of the Near East, including the Sumerians, Babylonians, and Assyrians in Mesopotamia, as well as the Phoenicians in the Levant. The Phoenicians, in particular, spread haplogroup J2 throughout the Mediterranean as they established trade networks and colonies in places such as Carthage, Sicily, and southern Spain.

The Arab Expansion
Haplogroup J1 is closely associated with the spread of Semitic-speaking peoples, including the ancient Akkadians and Amorites, as well as the later Arab expansion during the early Islamic period. The spread of haplogroup J1 from the Arabian Peninsula across the Middle East, North Africa, and the Iberian Peninsula reflects the influence of Arab conquests and the spread of Islam during the 7th and 8th centuries CE.

Genetic Studies and Haplogroup J
Genetic studies on haplogroup J have provided valuable insights into the migration patterns and historical events that shaped the populations of the Near East, the Mediterranean, and Europe. Ancient DNA studies have shown that haplogroup J was present in early Neolithic populations in the Near East and Europe, confirming its role in the spread of

farming and the rise of ancient civilizations.

Ancient DNA: Studies of ancient DNA from Neolithic and Bronze Age archaeological sites in the Near East and Europe have confirmed the presence of haplogroup J, particularly J2, in early farming communities. These studies have shown that haplogroup J2 was one of the dominant paternal lineages among the first agriculturalists to spread into Europe from the Near East.

Modern Population Studies: Research on modern populations has mapped the distribution of haplogroup J and its subclades across the Middle East, the Mediterranean, and Europe. These studies have helped clarify the role of haplogroup J in the development of early civilizations and the diffusion of cultural and technological innovations, such as agriculture and metallurgy.

Conclusion
Y-DNA haplogroup J is one of the most important paternal lineages in the genetic history of the Near East, the Mediterranean, and Europe. Its presence in modern populations reflects the deep historical connections between these regions, particularly during the Neolithic Revolution and the rise of ancient civilizations in Mesopotamia, the Levant, and the Aegean. Haplogroup J1 is closely associated with Semitic-speaking populations and the Arab expansion, while haplogroup J2 is linked to the spread of early agriculturalists and the rise of ancient Mediterranean cultures such as the Greeks and Phoenicians.

The study of haplogroup J provides critical insights into the early migrations and cultural developments that shaped the genetic landscape of the Middle East, Europe, and North Africa. It highlights the role of haplogroup J in some of the most transformative periods in human history, from the advent of agriculture to the rise of great ancient civilizations and the spread of modern populations across Eurasia and Africa."



My ancestral path from FtDNA:

[Gannicus]

Any other J2a1 members?

[Gannicus]

A new ancient sample match recently showed up in my ancient connections.



The sample is on https://www.exploreyourdna.com/ancient-samples.aspx

For some reason I can't download the G25 coordinates from there. The file is blank.