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    Cool, thank you for trying. I was trying to see if qpAdm would allow the model to work because of the CHG and Iran Neolithic components in Western steppe herders. And obviously Turks would have ANF as well. I was looking at your results with one of your first models where you were modeling yourself with EHG, AHG, Iran N, etc and thought that maybe there was a chance the three way steppe/ANF/WHG model would pass. On top of that I thought you scored some EHG too. If not then the inclusion of an east Eurasian source could have maybe made the model work.

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    Modeled myself with EEFs

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    This Germany LBK EEF has pretty low WHG admix:

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    Here are some models that I used myself:

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    Sources 5 / 10
    Turkey_Marmara_Barcin_N.DG


    Iran_GanjDareh_N.AG


    Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic.SG


    Russia_YuzhniyOleniyOstrov_Mesolithic.AG


    Mongolia_EIA_SlabGrave_1.AG




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    Mbuti.DG


    Austria_Gravettian.AG


    Russia_MA1_UP.SG


    Russia_LakeBaikal_N.SG


    Russia_LenaRiver_N.SG


    Turkey_Central_Pinarbasi_Epipaleolithic.AG


    Morocco_EN.WGC.SG


    Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.WGC.SG


    Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG


    China_Xinjiang_Xiaohe_BA.AG


    Georgia_Satsurblia_LateUP.SG


    Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG


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    Target:

    p value: 0.5686
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    Feasibility: TRUE Sources
    Turkey_Marmara_Barcin_N.DG


    Iran_GanjDareh_N.AG


    Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic.SG


    Russia_YuzhniyOleniyOstrov_Mesolithic.AG


    Mongolia_EIA_SlabGrave_1.AG




    References
    Mbuti.DG


    Austria_Gravettian.AG


    Russia_MA1_UP.SG


    Russia_LakeBaikal_N.SG


    Russia_LenaRiver_N.SG


    Turkey_Central_Pinarbasi_Epipaleolithic.AG


    Morocco_EN.WGC.SG


    Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.WGC.SG


    Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG


    China_Xinjiang_Xiaohe_BA.AG


    Georgia_Satsurblia_LateUP.SG


    Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opie View Post
    Here are some models that I used myself:

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    Turkey_Marmara_Barcin_N.DG


    Iran_GanjDareh_N.AG


    Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic.SG


    Russia_YuzhniyOleniyOstrov_Mesolithic.AG


    Mongolia_EIA_SlabGrave_1.AG




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    Mbuti.DG


    Austria_Gravettian.AG


    Russia_MA1_UP.SG


    Russia_LakeBaikal_N.SG


    Russia_LenaRiver_N.SG


    Turkey_Central_Pinarbasi_Epipaleolithic.AG


    Morocco_EN.WGC.SG


    Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.WGC.SG


    Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG


    China_Xinjiang_Xiaohe_BA.AG


    Georgia_Satsurblia_LateUP.SG


    Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG


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    Target:

    p value: 0.5686
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    Feasibility: TRUE Sources
    Turkey_Marmara_Barcin_N.DG


    Iran_GanjDareh_N.AG


    Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic.SG


    Russia_YuzhniyOleniyOstrov_Mesolithic.AG


    Mongolia_EIA_SlabGrave_1.AG




    References
    Mbuti.DG


    Austria_Gravettian.AG


    Russia_MA1_UP.SG


    Russia_LakeBaikal_N.SG


    Russia_LenaRiver_N.SG


    Turkey_Central_Pinarbasi_Epipaleolithic.AG


    Morocco_EN.WGC.SG


    Turkey_Central_Boncuklu_PPN.WGC.SG


    Russia_Sidelkino_HG.SG


    China_Xinjiang_Xiaohe_BA.AG


    Georgia_Satsurblia_LateUP.SG


    Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N.SG
    Have you experimented with admixture modeling yourself with modern populations yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannicus View Post
    Have you experimented with admixture modeling yourself with modern populations yet?
    No

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    My FST distances to modern English individuals:

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    Scottish individuals:

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    I don't know why that last Scottish sample is so different from the others.

    From what I understand, FST is not designed to detect subtle admixture.
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    Low Steppe Model




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    Here are my two best runs after hours and hours of trying various references and combos that are used. All with garbage results and horrible p value etc.

    Also this actually now comes close to my 24genetics report which they have updated and provided me with an farmer/hunter gathere report!
    Another interesting fact! There are official papers nbci and other research institue that confirm that actually dinaric/dalmatians have elevated chg levels and not eef like some bias amateur pca "creators" like to portay. I seem to be at the upper end for a european.

    Anyway just my two cents for now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croatian Legend View Post
    two cents
    For more CHG-maxxing use AG3 since EHG already has CHG admix



    AHG instead of ANF works too


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    Quote Originally Posted by majevica View Post
    For more CHG-maxxing use AG3 since EHG already has CHG admix



    AHG instead of ANF works too

    Hey, Majevica have you admix modeled yourself with modern populations yet?

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