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    Target: Kostek_scaled
    Distance: 1.9709% / 0.01970920 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    40.6 Lithuanian_VZ
    26.4 Lithuanian_PZ
    16.8 Turkish_West_Macedonia
    10.6 Slovenian
    3.4 Finnish_Southwest
    2.2 Moroccan_South

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vessna View Post
    No Slav for me.

    Target: Vessna_scaled
    Distance: 1.3653% / 0.01365338 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    52.6 Lithuanian_RA
    24.6 Lithuanian_VA
    10.0 Turkish_Chitak
    8.2 Polish_Silesian
    3.8 Russian_Krasnoborsky
    0.8 Moldovan_o
    It demonstrates the pointlessness of this construction.
    Last edited by rothaer; 08-26-2025 at 11:05 AM.
    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    Okay thanks. What do you get if you take those out that you highlighted?
    If I erase all in the source that contains notably Balto-Slavic and Finnic (which latter can well be mistaken for the former in G25) then I get this:

    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.3509% / 0.01350928
    42.6 Swedish
    20.0 Croatia_Early_Slav1
    18.0 Czech_Early_Slav1
    7.6 Serbia_Early_Slav2

    6.4 German_Hamburg
    4.2 Austrian
    1.2 Welsh

    Swedish will contain little Finnic, German_Hamburg und (pan-)Austrian will contain little Slavic, and on the other hand the various Early Slavs will not contain 100% proto Slavic. Just as a remark.
    Last edited by rothaer; 08-26-2025 at 10:56 AM.
    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt View Post
    I have UPDATED the samples to also include 3 Croatian Early Slavs and 6 Serbian Early Slavs. Try again and see if you get some?

    I'm closest to Croatian Early Slav 1, but it doesn't show in my results.
    Still not appear.

    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 2.2770% / 0.02277048
    33.0 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
    30.0 Lithuanian_VZ
    24.4 Bulgarian
    9.4 Spanish_Asturias
    3.2 Serbian


    Even if I remove Lithuanian and other Balto-Slavic samples.

    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 2.4969% / 0.02496882
    84.0 Serbian
    12.8 Finnish_Southwest
    3.2 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    If I erase all in the source that contains notably Balto-Slavic and Finnic (which latter can well be mistaken for the former in G25) then I get this:

    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.3509% / 0.01350928
    42.6 Swedish
    20.0 Croatia_Early_Slav1
    18.0 Czech_Early_Slav1
    7.6 Serbia_Early_Slav2

    6.4 German_Hamburg
    4.2 Austrian
    1.2 Welsh

    Swedish will contain little Finnic, German_Hamburg und (pan-)Austrian will contain little Slavic, and on the other hand the various Early Slavs will not contain 100% proto Slavic. Just as a remark.


    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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    Target: Beowulf_Scaled
    Distance: 0.0242% / 0.02420776 | ADC: 2x RC
    100.0 Serbia_Early_Slav5




    Target: Beowulf_Scaled
    Distance: 0.0140% / 0.01403623 | ADC: 1x RC
    46.8 Spanish_Valencia
    29.6 BelgianC
    23.6 Romanian


    Target: Beowulf_Scaled
    Distance: 0.0131% / 0.01309126 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    36.6 Spanish_Valencia
    30.7 BelgianB
    19.6 Romanian
    13.1 Spanish_Extremadura

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    Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
    0.02289565 Czech
    0.02664332 Slovenian
    0.02806980 Hungarian
    0.02931467 Croatia_Early_Slav1:I26747
    0.03043800 Polish_Silesian
    0.03257768 German_Hamburg
    0.03418576 Slovakian
    0.03433665 Czech_Early_Slav1:RISE569
    0.03515701 Austrian
    0.03625685 Moldovan_o
    0.03809925 German
    0.03825160 Serbia_Early_Slav6:I15537
    0.03987261 Croatia_Early_Slav3:I26745
    0.04175552 Swedish
    0.04363875 Czech_Early_Slav2:I4137
    0.04602080 Moldovan
    0.04631998 Danish
    0.04845157 BelgianA
    0.04851430 Dutch
    0.04944385 Norwegian
    0.04969759 Lithuanian_PA
    0.05006974 Serbia_Early_Slav2:I15542
    0.05139979 Scottish
    0.05148920 Serbian
    0.05190977 Welsh

    Target: Kruzek_scaled
    Distance: 1.4312% / 0.01431182
    33.8 Slovenian
    24.8 Lithuanian_VZ
    13.8 Finnish_Southwest
    12.4 BelgianA
    6.6 Serbia_Early_Slav5
    4.6 Turkish_Ahiska
    4.0 Lithuanian_PZ

    And who is supposed to be an early Slav?

    Target: Serbia_Early_Slav5:I15538
    Distance: 0.8023% / 0.00802295 | R3P
    49.8 Denmark_Early_Medieval_Viking_Age_Langeland_(Mixed _Western_Euro_Profile)_(n=4)
    30.8 Scotland_Early_Medieval_Pictish_(n=2)
    19.4 Italy_Lombardy_EBA_Remedello_(n=1)
    Last edited by Wend-Kruzek; 08-26-2025 at 08:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wend-Kruzek View Post
    Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
    0.02289565 Czech
    0.02664332 Slovenian
    0.02806980 Hungarian
    0.02931467 Croatia_Early_Slav1:I26747
    0.03043800 Polish_Silesian
    0.03257768 German_Hamburg
    0.03418576 Slovakian
    0.03433665 Czech_Early_Slav1:RISE569
    0.03515701 Austrian
    0.03625685 Moldovan_o
    0.03809925 German
    0.03825160 Serbia_Early_Slav6:I15537
    0.03987261 Croatia_Early_Slav3:I26745
    0.04175552 Swedish
    0.04363875 Czech_Early_Slav2:I4137
    0.04602080 Moldovan
    0.04631998 Danish
    0.04845157 BelgianA
    0.04851430 Dutch
    0.04944385 Norwegian
    0.04969759 Lithuanian_PA
    0.05006974 Serbia_Early_Slav2:I15542
    0.05139979 Scottish
    0.05148920 Serbian
    0.05190977 Welsh

    Target: Kruzek_scaled
    Distance: 1.4312% / 0.01431182
    33.8 Slovenian
    24.8 Lithuanian_VZ
    13.8 Finnish_Southwest
    12.4 BelgianA
    6.6 Serbia_Early_Slav5
    4.6 Turkish_Ahiska
    4.0 Lithuanian_PZ

    And who is supposed to be an early Slav?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_...uistic%20group.
    Target: SC_NewDeepModernScaled_Official_Merged
    Distance: 1.7028% / 0.01702792 | ADC: 2x RC
    57.2 Irish
    42.8 Norwegian

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    With new Early Slavs references.

    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 1.9122% / 0.01912211 | ADC: 2x RC

    100.0 Spanish_Valencia

    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 1.9122% / 0.01912211 | ADC: 1x RC

    100.0 Spanish_Valencia

    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 1.8072% / 0.01807249 | ADC: 0.5x RC

    50.0 Spanish_Valencia
    27.6 Serbia_Early_Slav5
    22.4 Portuguese

    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 1.8072% / 0.01807249 | ADC: 0.25x RC

    50.0 Spanish_Valencia
    27.6 Serbia_Early_Slav5
    22.4 Portuguese

    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 1.8072% / 0.01807179

    51.4 Spanish_Valencia
    26.0 Serbia_Early_Slav5
    22.0 Portuguese
    0.6 English_Cornwall


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    At least one of these Early Slavs are more Pre-Slavic or Illyrian-like than "Slavs"...

    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.01912211 Spanish_Valencia
    0.02532674 Portuguese
    0.02646347 Serbia_Early_Slav5:I15538
    0.02761608 Spanish_Extremadura
    0.03308185 Spanish_Asturias
    0.04188758 BelgianC
    0.04582315 French_Nord
    0.04845570 BelgianB
    0.05145340 Spanish_Canarias
    0.05469218 BelgianA
    0.05924159 French_Brittany
    0.06184141 Romanian
    0.06281520 Serbia_Early_Slav2:I15542
    0.06331193 Austrian
    0.06403575 German
    0.06447205 Serbia_Early_Slav4:I15540
    0.06548021 Bulgarian
    0.06574660 English_Cornwall
    0.06613191 Welsh
    0.06661146 Serbian
    0.06793267 English
    0.06797089 Serbia_Early_Slav1:I15543
    0.06875624 Turkish_West_Macedonia
    0.06914452 Dutch
    0.07183080 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace


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