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    Three new samples fully from Volhynia, Eurogenes K15:

    Code:
    Polish_Volhynia7,21.61,15.6,29.62,16.63,5.92,5.99,2.39,0.98,0.4,0.08,0.17,0.08,0.17,0.08,0.31
    Polish_Volhynia8,19.21,14.16,34.03,19.49,4.97,4.78,1.78,0.2,0,0.4,0,0.31,0.69,0,0
    Polish_Volhynia9,24.35,17.38,25.86,18.4,6,5.37,0.89,0,1.06,0,0,0,0.2,0.43,0.07
    Polish_Volhynia(n=9),21.70,16.67,29.33,19.45,6.53,2.89,1.50,0.31,0.57,0.05,0.15,0.28,0.29,0.22,0.08
    And the new average in Eurogenes K36 Similitude Map:



    New PCA and new distances:



    Polish_Volhynia

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
    Europe_PL_Central-Poland:HellBus
    0.2558574
    Europe_PL_Mazowieckie
    0.2765231
    Europe_PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15
    0.2772760
    Europe_PL_Podlaskie
    0.2969478
    Europe_PL_Swietokrzyskie
    0.3309094
    Europe_PL_Zachodniopomorskie:Medieval
    0.3657349
    Europe_BY_Grodno-Region
    0.3661994
    Europe_PL_Lubelskie
    0.3708059
    Europe_UA_Sumy-Oblast
    0.3795352
    Europe_BY_Homyel-Region
    0.3843839
    Europe_PL_Wielkopolskie:South
    0.4180562
    Europe_PL_Wielkopolskie:Medieval
    0.4336946
    Europe_UA_Rivne-Oblast
    0.4442916
    Europe_PL_Radom
    0.4503676
    Europe_BY_Brest-Region
    0.4562313
    Europe_PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie
    0.4578635
    Europe_PL_Wielkopolskie:HO
    0.4833198
    Europe_UA_Dnipropetrovsk-Oblast
    0.4888599
    Europe_PL_Lower-Silesia:Medieval
    0.5022111
    Europe_PL_Central-Poland:Warsaw
    0.5031044
    Europe_PL_Warmia-Masuria
    0.5105918
    Europe_PL_Podkarpackie
    0.5116268
    Russia_RUS_Smolensk
    0.5121826
    Europe_BY_Minsk-Region
    0.5347887
    Europe_UA_Chernihiv-Oblast
    0.5393209
    Europe_PL_Wielkopolskie:GED
    0.5407578
    Russia_RUS_Voronezh
    0.5432283
    Europe_BY_Vitebsk-Region
    0.5525441
    Europe_UA_Zhytomyr-Oblast
    0.5534094
    (...)

    =====

    And some Two-Way Approximation models for Polish_Volhynia:

    Genetic distance population = x + y

    1.242 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 61% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 39% UA_Rivne-Oblast
    1.548 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 58% BY_Homyel-Region + 42% PL_Warmia-Masuria
    1.557 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 58% UA_Sumy-Oblast + 42% PL_Warmia-Masuria
    1.608 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 55% BY_Grodno-Region + 45% PL_Wielkopolskie:South
    1.613 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 67% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 33% UA_Dnipropetrovsk-Oblast
    1.628 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 52% PL_Warmia-Masuria + 48% UA_Chernihiv-Oblast
    1.713 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 73% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 27% BY_Grodno-Region
    1.741 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 54% BY_Minsk-Region + 46% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie
    1.749 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 77% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 23% RUS_Ryazan
    1.762 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 50% PL_Mazowieckie + 50% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15
    1.766 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 76% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 24% BY_Mogilev-Region
    1.786 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 53% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 47% PL_Podlaskie
    1.796 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 61% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 39% BY_Grodno-Region
    1.848 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 74% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 26% UA_Cherkasy-Oblast
    1.856 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 68% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 32% BY_Brest-Region
    1.867 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 55% PL_Central-Poland:HellBus + 45% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15
    1.890 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 53% BY_Brest-Region + 47% PL_Warmia-Masuria
    1.891 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 59% BY_Brest-Region + 41% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie
    1.898 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 63% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 37% BY_Homyel-Region
    1.899 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 73% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 27% BY_Vitebsk-Region
    1.899 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 52% BY_Brest-Region + 48% PL_Wielkopolskie:HO
    1.904 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 83% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 17% RUS_Yaroslavl
    1.930 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 80% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie:N15 + 20% RUS_Ryazan
    1.961 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 76% PL_Central-Poland:HellBus + 24% PL_Warmia-Masuria
    1.970 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 52% PL_Wielkopolskie:South + 48% BY_Brest-Region
    1.989 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 53% BY_Brest-Region + 47% PL_Wielkopolskie:HO
    1.998 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 54% UA_Rivne-Oblast + 46% PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie
    2.001 Polish_Volhynia(n=8) = 74% PL_Central-Poland:HellBus + 26% BY_Brest-Region
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    Poles in Volhynia in 1931 by type of settlement:

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    In Vahaduo mixed mode reduced to 5 populations some Malopolskie also appears:

    Target: Polish_Volhynia(n=8)
    Distance: 0.48474956 | R5P
    31.8 Europe_PL_Kujawsko-Pomorskie
    25.8 Europe_BY_Brest-Region
    20.0 Europe_PL_Warmia-Masuria
    12.8 Europe_PL_Malopolskie
    9.6 Europe_UA_Dnipropetrovsk-Oblast
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Poles in Volhynia in 1931 by type of settlement:

    The table is not of "Volhynia" but of a 1931 vovoidship which excludes about 20 thousand square kilometres of Volhynia.
    Thousands of Polish in Volhynia are therefore not included in the statistics.
    Last edited by Wandal; 09-27-2025 at 10:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandal View Post
    You post a lot of inaccurate disinformation.
    The table is not of "Volhynia" but of a 1931 vovoidship which excludes about 20 thousand square kilometres of Volhynia.
    Thousands of Polish in Volhynia are therefore not included in the statistics.
    Yes it is about Volhynian Voivodeship, without the Soviet part of Volhynia.

    The title of the table which I posted says "Poles in Volhynian Voivodeship".
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    But you wrote "Poles in Volhynia in 1931" and there is a big difference between "Volhynia" and a vovoidship. It's like showing statistics of vovoidship Tarnopol and saying the statistics are for Galicja.
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    Yes, the title of the table which I posted says "Poles in Volhynian Voivodeship according to the 1931 census".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    the title of the table which I posted says "Poles in Volhynian Voivodeship according to the 1931 census".
    But that's not your synopsis of the statistics. You wrote "Poles in Volhynia in 1931"

    You make it sound like "Volhynia" is equivalent to the one vovoidship displayed and that is not true.

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    Yes I should have written "in Polish Volhynia", because the Soviet part of Volhynia is not included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Yes I should have written "in Polish Volhynia", because the Soviet part of Volhynia is not included.
    You keep promoting disinformation. The statistics are not about "Polish Volhynia." The statistics are only for one vovoidship (political) in 1931 of the region of Volhynia (Polish cultural and geographic region, part of the larger region of Kresy).

    There is no such thing as "Polish Volhynia" apart from Volhynia because Volhynia is already Polish and there is no "Soviet part of Volhynia." You are promoting Bolshevik propaganda again.

    You spread a lot of disinformation about other Polish topics too.

    Don't think getting a moderator to delete my reply over and over again is going to work.

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