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    What could be the historical process that leads me to have Bosnian/Croatian and some Polish/Danish/Finnish/Ukrainians relatives on both Gedmatch and 23andme? Paleobalkan common DNA or Medieval influenced?
    From Gargano promontory, North Apulia, South Italy

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    Immigration to and from.

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    in Apulia you've got everything: Celto-Italics, Ancient west shore Balkanites (Messapians), Ancient Greeks, reached by some Germanics during their raid to southern Italy, Medieval Albanians, in varying percentages, maybe even some Ancient Punic and Medieval East Med and North African pirates, who knows

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    A Croatian among the relatives seems to be my uncle's double, impressive, same phenotype, same vibes (something like a norid with alpinoid influences)
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    I honestly think have more Albanian than other Balkans but cool, but i think my phenotype are pretty Italian or in general Western Med area with Greece included
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    in Apulia you've got everything: Celto-Italics, Ancient west shore Balkanites (Messapians), Ancient Greeks, reached by some Germanics during their raid to southern Italy, Medieval Albanians, in varying percentages, maybe even some Ancient Punic and Medieval East Med and North African pirates, who knows
    Apulia also changes a lot depending on where you are, even if the architecture and certain landscapes are quite similar everywhere (olive trees, white limestone houses etc.) I was in Salento a week ago and it was really very similar to my home town

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    Immigration to and from.
    I have a strange shift to the north-east for the southern Italian average

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    What could be the historical process that leads me to have Bosnian/Croatian and some Polish/Danish/Finnish/Ukrainians relatives on both Gedmatch and 23andme? Paleobalkan common DNA or Medieval influenced?
    From Gargano promontory, North Apulia, South Italy
    That area was populated by Balkanites escaping Ottomans, i have bunch of cousins from C and S Italy, mostly where Balkan Slavs and Arbereshes settled.

    This is map of birthplaces of my matches from.23, Ancestry and MH


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    Quote Originally Posted by hazmatnik View Post
    That area was populated by Balkanites escaping Ottomans, i have bunch of cousins from C and S Italy, mostly where Balkan Slavs and Arbereshes settled.

    This is map of birthplaces of my matches from.23, Ancestry and MH

    Crazy, i have 9 match in Italy, 4 in Apulia, 2 even Apulia from my area but emigrated in North Italy and Switzerland, like me, i'm live in Milan (at least half of the people from my hometown live in Northern Italy, the majority near Milan) One from Romagna, and another one from internal Campania

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    A Croatian among the relatives seems to be my uncle's double, impressive, same phenotype, same vibes (something like a norid with alpinoid influences)
    This is my update 23andme
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    I honestly think have more Albanian than other Balkans but cool, but i think my phenotype are pretty Italian or in general Western Med area with Greece included
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    Fenotipicamente mi sembra molto "meridionale".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    I have a strange shift to the north-east for the southern Italian average
    Tribu' illirici + albanesi e croati nel medioevo? O semplicemente l'aleatorieta' dei genetici.

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