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    Playing around with the reference pops and managed to get the P value up slightly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier727 View Post
    England_MIA / Norway_IA

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    Here's what I get:

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    I haven't tried it with your references.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannicus View Post
    Here's what I get:

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    I haven't tried it with your references.

    Yeah, you should try it out when you get a chance, I’d be interested to see what you get.
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    this is what I get when using your NW populations as a source combined with Russia Sunghir, which seems to me to be one of the best proxies for Slavs


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier727 View Post
    Yeah, you should try it out when you get a chance, I’d be interested to see what you get.
    With your references:

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    With the additional references, it does not improve the p value for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannicus View Post
    With your references:

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    With the additional references, it does not improve the p value for me.

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    Interesting, that’s quite a solid amount of Germanic you’ve got there, how much do you normally get with these IA models.
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    A guy from Russia ran my Ancestry kit.

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    Models with Thracian and Illyrian sources failed, only the Glinoe Scythian, which he said is actually Dacian worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier727 View Post
    Interesting, that’s quite a solid amount of Germanic you’ve got there, how much do you normally get with these IA models.
    It varies based on the samples used:

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    Not really sure that in most cases qpAdm can reliably distinguish between Celtic and Germanic populations.

    I can model myself with just Celtic sources also:

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    And then Modeling with just Germanic sources:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannicus View Post
    It varies based on the samples used:

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    Not really sure that in most cases qpAdm can reliably distinguish between Celtic and Germanic populations.

    I can model myself with just Celtic sources also:

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    And then Modeling with just Germanic sources:

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    Yeah, I've noticed that as well, which is interesting given how people always say how much better qpAdm is to G25. Also, it seems that your choice of right populations can have quite a big impact on your results, which is annoying given that there doesn't seem to be any clear formula on what makes for an optimal reference set.
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