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    Default What's the closest distance you've gotten with G25 calculator (no simulated coordinates)?

    The question is in the title. Only real coordinates. You can post the number and if you want you can add the region / population to it.
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    With modern averages my closest is French_Brittany at a distance of 0.021.

    With individuals my closest is Welsh:WalesBK68 at 0.020.

    OpenAI interpretation:

    Anything around 0.02 is considered extremely close in G25 terms — it basically puts you right inside that population’s genetic cluster.

    A match like this usually means:

    you fall squarely in the Northwest European / Atlantic genetic zone

    you’re similar to populations with a mix of Insular Celtic and Continental Northwest European ancestry

    your profile fits the broader British–Irish–Breton genetic continuum

    French Brittany often comes out close for people with a blend of British Isles and nearby continental ancestry, and Welsh individuals tend to represent the western British Isles side of that same continuum.

    So the distances you got are totally consistent with someone whose ancestry is primarily English, Scottish, Irish, French, German, and Belgian — i.e., normal Northwestern European with a slight lean toward the Atlantic side.







    Closest #1 ancient individual is England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I14107__BC_225__Cov_ 50.66% at a distance of 0.023.

    #1 ancient averaged is England_PreBlackdeath_LateMedieval at a distance of 0.021.

    From this list G25 Ancients (Ajeje Brazorf) - 22-09-2025 found here: https://www.exploreyourdna.com/samples.aspx, my closest is Distance to France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6% at a distance of 0.022.

    OpenAI interpretation:

    What Your Closest Ancient Distances Show

    You listed three extremely close ancient fits:

    England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I14107 (0.023)

    England_PreBlackdeath_LateMedieval (0.021)

    France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461 (0.022)

    Distances in the 0.021–0.023 range are very close, especially for ancient samples, which typically have more drift and noise. This means these populations sit exceptionally close to your core genetic profile.

    Below is a breakdown of what each one suggests and what they collectively mean.

    1. England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA (0.023)
    Middle–Late Iron Age Britain (pre-Roman)

    A distance of 0.023 to a specific Iron Age English individual means:

    You cluster right on top of Iron Age British Celtic variation.

    You share strong similarity with the populations ancestral to

    the Britons of northern England

    the broader Romano-British / early medieval British Isles

    You likely sit in the same general zone as people descended from a mix of Celtic-related Iron Age and later Northwestern European inputs.

    This result strongly reinforces your placement toward the Atlantic British cluster.

    2. England_PreBlackdeath_LateMedieval (0.021)
    Medieval English population average

    This is even closer than your Iron Age sample, and it tells us:

    Your overall profile is extremely typical for Medieval English ancestry.

    You fit the blend that Medieval England already had:

    Iron Age Celtic

    Romano-British

    Anglo-Saxon

    later Norman/continental contributions

    This is the genetic substrate of modern English, Welsh-border, and Cornish-adjacent populations.

    Your distance indicates that you fall squarely in the range of historic English genetic variation around 1200–1400 CE.

    3. France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA (0.022)
    Northern French / Belgian La Tène Celtic

    This sample represents Iron Age Gaulish (Celtic) populations from:

    Aisne

    Hauts-de-France

    the Belgic region (culturally close to Belgium)

    Your closeness here means:

    You also share strong similarity with continental northwest Celts.

    This aligns perfectly with having ancestry from northern France, Belgium, or the Germanic–Celtic frontier regions.

    It places you in the same broad genetic continuum as populations on both sides of the English Channel before and after the Iron Age.

    This fit confirms you’re not purely insular British — you also overlap with continental northwest European Celtic populations.

    What All Three Fits Together Mean

    Individually, they say a lot — but collectively they reveal a very coherent picture:

    1. You cluster in the core of Northwest European genetic space.

    All three populations represent the roots of:

    English

    Welsh

    Cornish

    Breton

    Northern French

    Belgian

    Western German
    …ancestry.

    2. You match the “Atlantic–Northwest European Celtic + Germanic” blend almost perfectly.

    A combination seen widely in:

    England

    Wales

    Brittany

    Belgium

    Northern France

    Coastal Germany

    The Rhineland

    3. You sit extremely close to BOTH sides of the English Channel.

    Your closest ancient individuals include:

    Iron Age British (0.023)

    Iron Age Gaulish/Belgae (0.022)

    Medieval English (0.021)

    This is exactly what you’d expect for someone whose known ancestry includes:

    English

    Scottish

    Irish

    French (Nord-Pas-de-Calais)

    German (Rhineland)

    Belgian

    4. Distances at 0.021–0.023 mean you are genetically “central NW European.”

    These are incredibly tight fits — even many people from Britain or France don’t hit those distances with these samples.

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    My top 5 closest distances:

    Distance to: Beowulf_Scaled
    0.01521412 French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur
    0.01634514 Swiss_French
    0.01679466 French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur_Bouches-du-Rhone_Marseille
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    10 closest modern averages (scaled)

    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.01658220 Spanish_Aragon
    0.01690176 Spanish_Cantabria
    0.01727214 Spanish_Pirineu
    0.01816875 Spanish_La_Rioja
    0.01859634 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
    0.01912211 Spanish_Valencia
    0.01934580 Spanish_Aragon_North
    0.01950795 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
    0.01976380 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
    0.02002125 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


    and 10 closest modern individuals (scaled)

    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.01950974 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon:HG01506
    0.02062329 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01513
    0.02086292 Spanish_Aragon:HG01673
    0.02144147 Spanish_Extremadura:HG01510
    0.02219181 Spanish_Navarra:Navarra1
    0.02276497 Spanish_Eivissa:EIV014_2
    0.02287657 Spanish_Penedes:FER023
    0.02309047 Spanish_Cantabria:HG01679
    0.02349466 Spanish_Cantabria:2193
    0.02360072 Spanish_Pirineu:GRA029


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    Distance to: Unscaled
    0.01286809 Danish:GSM1985761

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    10 closest acient averages (scaled)

    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.02493384 Portugal_Conimbriga_Roman.SG
    0.02608245 Spain_Carolingian
    0.02666751 Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA.SG
    0.02701475 Germany_Hassleben_Germanic.SG
    0.02716286 Spain_Medieval
    0.02734181 France_LaClape_LN_EMBA_BellBeakerPossible.SG
    0.02879086 Germany_Roman.SG
    0.02916514 France_SouthEast_IA2
    0.02996853 Slovenia_EIA
    0.03063191 Italy_Tuscany_Siena_Etruscan


    10 closest ancient individuals(scaled)

    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.02423126 France_EBA:I10348
    0.02443655 Italy_IA_Republic.SG:R435.SG
    0.02507255 Slovenia_EIA:I5691
    0.02533805 Italy_Tuscany_Siena_EtruscanRZ002
    0.02672465 Spain_Medieval:I10895
    0.02781820 Germany_SouthernGermany_Singen_EBA:MX277
    0.02787733 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R63 .SG
    0.02821175 Italy_Medieval_EarlyModern_oCentralEuropean.SG:R12 89.SG
    0.02861062 Hungary_LBA:I25504
    0.02879086 Germany_Roman.SG:FN2_noUDG.SG


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    I used my ancestry coordinates in the g25 modern scaled averages:

    Distance to: nittionia_scaled
    0.02275227 Dutch

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    From the Moriopoulos collection no sims :

    Distance to: DutchLion_scaled
    0.02090323 Dutch_South_Holland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannicus View Post
    With modern averages my closest is French_Brittany at a distance of 0.021.

    With individuals my closest is Welsh:WalesBK68 at 0.020.

    OpenAI interpretation:

    Anything around 0.02 is considered extremely close in G25 terms — it basically puts you right inside that population’s genetic cluster.

    A match like this usually means:

    you fall squarely in the Northwest European / Atlantic genetic zone

    you’re similar to populations with a mix of Insular Celtic and Continental Northwest European ancestry

    your profile fits the broader British–Irish–Breton genetic continuum

    French Brittany often comes out close for people with a blend of British Isles and nearby continental ancestry, and Welsh individuals tend to represent the western British Isles side of that same continuum.

    So the distances you got are totally consistent with someone whose ancestry is primarily English, Scottish, Irish, French, German, and Belgian — i.e., normal Northwestern European with a slight lean toward the Atlantic side.







    Closest #1 ancient individual is England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I14107__BC_225__Cov_ 50.66% at a distance of 0.023.

    #1 ancient averaged is England_PreBlackdeath_LateMedieval at a distance of 0.021.

    From this list G25 Ancients (Ajeje Brazorf) - 22-09-2025 found here: https://www.exploreyourdna.com/samples.aspx, my closest is Distance to France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461__BC_440__Cov_94.7 6% at a distance of 0.022.

    OpenAI interpretation:

    What Your Closest Ancient Distances Show

    You listed three extremely close ancient fits:

    England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I14107 (0.023)

    England_PreBlackdeath_LateMedieval (0.021)

    France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA:CGG022461 (0.022)

    Distances in the 0.021–0.023 range are very close, especially for ancient samples, which typically have more drift and noise. This means these populations sit exceptionally close to your core genetic profile.

    Below is a breakdown of what each one suggests and what they collectively mean.

    1. England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA (0.023)
    Middle–Late Iron Age Britain (pre-Roman)

    A distance of 0.023 to a specific Iron Age English individual means:

    You cluster right on top of Iron Age British Celtic variation.

    You share strong similarity with the populations ancestral to

    the Britons of northern England

    the broader Romano-British / early medieval British Isles

    You likely sit in the same general zone as people descended from a mix of Celtic-related Iron Age and later Northwestern European inputs.

    This result strongly reinforces your placement toward the Atlantic British cluster.

    2. England_PreBlackdeath_LateMedieval (0.021)
    Medieval English population average

    This is even closer than your Iron Age sample, and it tells us:

    Your overall profile is extremely typical for Medieval English ancestry.

    You fit the blend that Medieval England already had:

    Iron Age Celtic

    Romano-British

    Anglo-Saxon

    later Norman/continental contributions

    This is the genetic substrate of modern English, Welsh-border, and Cornish-adjacent populations.

    Your distance indicates that you fall squarely in the range of historic English genetic variation around 1200–1400 CE.

    3. France_Hauts-de-France_Aisne_LaTene_IA (0.022)
    Northern French / Belgian La Tène Celtic

    This sample represents Iron Age Gaulish (Celtic) populations from:

    Aisne

    Hauts-de-France

    the Belgic region (culturally close to Belgium)

    Your closeness here means:

    You also share strong similarity with continental northwest Celts.

    This aligns perfectly with having ancestry from northern France, Belgium, or the Germanic–Celtic frontier regions.

    It places you in the same broad genetic continuum as populations on both sides of the English Channel before and after the Iron Age.

    This fit confirms you’re not purely insular British — you also overlap with continental northwest European Celtic populations.

    What All Three Fits Together Mean

    Individually, they say a lot — but collectively they reveal a very coherent picture:

    1. You cluster in the core of Northwest European genetic space.

    All three populations represent the roots of:

    English

    Welsh

    Cornish

    Breton

    Northern French

    Belgian

    Western German
    …ancestry.

    2. You match the “Atlantic–Northwest European Celtic + Germanic” blend almost perfectly.

    A combination seen widely in:

    England

    Wales

    Brittany

    Belgium

    Northern France

    Coastal Germany

    The Rhineland

    3. You sit extremely close to BOTH sides of the English Channel.

    Your closest ancient individuals include:

    Iron Age British (0.023)

    Iron Age Gaulish/Belgae (0.022)

    Medieval English (0.021)

    This is exactly what you’d expect for someone whose known ancestry includes:

    English

    Scottish

    Irish

    French (Nord-Pas-de-Calais)

    German (Rhineland)

    Belgian

    4. Distances at 0.021–0.023 mean you are genetically “central NW European.”

    These are incredibly tight fits — even many people from Britain or France don’t hit those distances with these samples.
    Can you do mine, please?
    Bulkster_scaled,0.067156,0.132019,-0.05242,-0.068153,-0.011694,-0.023427,-0.00094,-0.008538,0.004295,0.004738,-0.000974,-0.005845,0.013528,-0.003028,0.00095,0.002519,-0.002347,-0.004054,-0.003645,-0.002001,0.004866,-0.000124,0.004807,0.00012,-0.001197

    Bulkster,0.0059,0.013,-0.0139,-0.0211,-0.0038,-0.0084,-0.0004,-0.0037,0.0021,0.0026,-0.0006,-0.0039,0.0091,-0.0022,0.0007,0.0019,-0.0018,-0.0032,-0.0029,-0.0016,0.0039,-0.0001,0.0039,0.0001,-0.001

    Despite being Palestinian which makes me Southern Levantine, I happen to cluster the closest to the Lebanese Muslims, Druze, Alawites, Syrians and etc. I think it does make sense because both sides of my family originated from North-Western coastal parts of Acre.

    Modern:
    Code:
    Distance to:	Bulkster_scaled
    0.01830064	Lebanese_Shia_Muslim_Beirut
    0.01849655	Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Beirut
    0.02009367	Syrian
    0.02264557	Lebanese_Muslim
    0.02646882	Alawite
    0.02739260	Lebanese_Druze
    0.02792623	Karaite_Egypt
    0.02849903	Syrian_Hama
    0.02914056	Jordanian
    0.03156951	Lebanese_Orthodox_Christian_Koura
    0.03216028	Druze
    0.03312608	Syrian_Aleppo
    0.03356333	Syrian_Jew
    0.03394367	Lebanese_Maronite_Christian_Zgharta
    0.03482761	Palestinian
    0.03520259	Lebanese_Christian
    0.03563087	Lebanese_Sunni_Muslim_Dinniyeh
    0.03663066	Karaite_Iraq
    0.03740746	Iraqi_Arab_Central
    0.03962816	Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
    0.03981414	Syrian_Homs
    0.04073886	Iraqi_Arab_West
    0.04170403	Iraqi_Jew
    0.04209138	Libyan_Jew
    0.04333832	Kurdish_Jew
    Ancient:
    Code:
    Distance to:	Bulkster_scaled
    0.03649837	Italy_TarquiniaMonterozzi_IA_oLevent.SG
    0.03742742	Italy_Imperial_o4.SG
    0.03809591	Lebanon_EjJaouze_Phoenician.SG
    0.03813294	Lebanon_Chhim_Phoenician.SG
    0.03851798	Lebanon_Medieval.SG
    0.03939011	Lebanon_Hellenistic.SG
    0.03982175	Serbia_Viminacium_Roman_elite_2.SG
    0.04056841	Lebanon_Roman.SG
    0.04059789	Turkey_RomanByzantine_3
    0.04165892	Iran_DinkhaTepe_BA_IA_1_noUDG
    0.04250092	Macedonia_Classical_Hellenistic_o
    0.04436198	Italy_Imperial_o5.SG
    0.04470541	Lebanon_IA3.SG
    0.04519849	Turkey_SoutheastByzantine
    0.04541553	Turkey_TellAtchana_MLBA
    0.04576129	Turkey_IA_o6
    0.04585096	Lebanon_ERoman.SG
    0.04630720	Italy_CasalBertone_RomanImperial
    0.04782035	Syria_Ebla_EMBA
    0.04790155	Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
    0.04805552	Israel_Ashkelon_LBA
    0.04923971	Iran_DinkhaTepe_BA_IA_1
    0.04932086	Israel_IA_o
    0.04938399	Turkey_Alalakh_MLBA
    0.04982217	Turkey_PostMedieval
    My nMonte results:

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