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    Why does 23andMe classify Greek Cypriots as West Asian, given that mainland Greeks can easily be modeled as half Greek Cypriot? This seems inconsistent. Mainland Greeks frequently get 100% European on 23andMe, while Greek Cypriots typically get 100% West Asian Cypriot.






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    Anything below 1.0 indicates an extremely close fit, meaning almost the same population. So yes, mainland Greeks can be modeled this way.


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    I consider Cypriots to be European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    I consider Cypriots to be European.
    Agreed.

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    They are a European-West Asian intermediate population, in much the same way that, to varying degrees, Kavkazians, Turks and Jews are. That Cypriots are often considered to be more 'European' than any of those other populations is more for ideological rather than objective genetic/anthropological reasons.

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    Don't know. Are Sicilians European genetically?

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    Cypriots have very low Yamnaya ancestry and no WHG ancestry, so they cannot be considered European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny001 View Post
    Cypriots have very low Yamnaya ancestry and no WHG ancestry, so they cannot be considered European.
    Farmer ancestry is European too, imo.

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    I had already explained this to you:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...27#post8308827

    From a cultural point of view, absolutely. From a genetic point of view, they're not purely of European descent. To me, they are Europeans regardless of their genetics though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Elizabeth~ View Post
    I consider Cypriots to be European.
    Politically and culturally, sure. Genetically by WN standards, well..
    Cypriots have a distinct genetic profile reflecting their position as a genetic crossroads, with strong links to ancient populations of Anatolia, the Levant, and the Eastern Mediterranean, along with contributions from Southern Italy, the Caucasus, and Steppe peoples. Studies show Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots share significant common paternal ancestry predating the Ottoman era. Analysis also highlights genetic affinities with Southern Italians, Armenians, and Levantine populations like Lebanese Christians.
    Genetic ancestry and components
    Ancient farming communities: A substantial portion of Greek Cypriot ancestry (42.8%) comes from Anatolian Neolithic Farmers, with additional components from Levantine (23.2%) and Iranian Neolithic Farmers (14.2%).
    European and Caucasus links: Other ancestral components include Caucasian Hunter-Gatherers (11.8%) and Yamnaya steppe peoples (8%).
    Geographic continuum: Cypriot DNA shows a genetic continuum with populations across the Eastern Mediterranean, clustering with groups from Southern Italy and the Levant.
    Population-specific relationships
    Greek Cypriots: Closely related to populations in the Dodecanese islands of Greece, particularly Kastellorizo, Symi, and Rhodes. They also show genetic affinity with Southern Italians and Lebanese Christians.
    Turkish Cypriots: Share a common pre-Ottoman paternal ancestry with Greek Cypriots. They show a slight genetic shift towards mainland Turkish populations, but overall maintain a similar Y-haplogroup distribution as Greek Cypriots, which includes a significant connection to non-Turkic Anatolian populations.
    Armenian Cypriots and Maronite Cypriots: Analysis shows a closer genetic relationship between Greek Cypriots and Armenian Cypriots compared to Maronite Cypriots, though all three communities show moderate genetic differentiation from each other.
    I'm asking this because you stated that you don't accept Europeans who are even 5% non-Europeans genetically. Here's their G25 model:


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