4 Charts of Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components of Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic Groups/Subdivisions

[King Lear]

I decided to make this handy list that shows each of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components in the Charts I posted paired with their dominant Subrace/Phenotype based on the Eickstedt/Schwidetzky/Knussmann Racial classification system, Enjoy, !

Proto-Slavic=East Europid
Proto-Baltic=East Europid
Proto-Germanic=Teuto Nordid and Dalo Nordid
Proto-Celtic=Alpinid
Proto-Italic=Gracile Mediterranid
Early Graeco-Albanian=Dinarid
Proto-Armenian=Armenid
Proto-Iranian=Iranid
Proto-Indo-Aryan=North Indid
Tocharian=Turanid
Pre-Greek Anatolian=Armenid
Andronovo=East Nordid
Pre-Iranian Southern Central Asia=Iranid
Baltic Bronze Age=East Europid
Pomeranian=Alpinid
Ireland and Brittany Bronze Age=Atlanto Mediterranid and Unreduced Cromagnid
Britain South Bronze Age=Atlanto Mediterranid
France North Bronze Age=Alpinid
France South Bronze Age=Alpinid
Pyrenees Bronze Age=Atlanto Mediterranid
Iberia Bronze Age=Gracile Mediterranid
Paleo-Sardinian=Gracile Mediterranid and Unreduced Cromagnid
Pre-Graeco-Albanian Greece=Gracile Mediterranid
Proto-Kamas-Selkup=Sibirid
Proto-Ugric=Sibirid
Paleo-Laplandic=Lappid
Pre-Baltic Finnic Archangelsk=Lappid
Proto-Permic=Lappid
Proto-Volga Finnic=Lappid
Proto-Finno-Saamic=Lappid
Baikal Bronze Age=Sibirid
Proto-Mongolic=Tungid
Proto-Turkic=Tungid
Tibetan=South Mongolid
BMAC=Iranid
Pre-Iranian Zagros=Iranid
Pre-Indo-Iranian Hindu Kush=Indomelenid and Gracile Indid
Dravidian=Indomelenid and Gracile Indid
Pre-Indo-Aryan Himalayas=Veddid and South Mongolid
Austroasiatic Bengal=Indomelenid and Veddid
Pre-Sarmatian Circassian=Armenid
Pre-Sarmatian Nakh=Armenid
Dagestanian=Armenid
Urartian=Armenid
Pre-Iranian Azerbaijan=Armenid
Roman Middle Eastern=Arabid and Armenid
Roman Middle Eastern and North African=Arabid and Berberid
Sub-Saharan African=Negrid
Native American=Indianid (various Mongolid Subraces of the Americas)
Guanche=Berberid

[King Lear]

What do you guys think of my handy list that pairs each of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components in the Charts with their dominant Subrace/Phenotype based on the Eickstedt/Schwidetzky/Knussmann Racial classification system, ?

[cass]

Clearly, you haven’t read I. Schwidetzky.

[King Lear]

Clearly, you haven’t read I. Schwidetzky.

Where do I contradict Schwidetzky, I am saying that the Proto-Slavs were Osteuropid/East Europid, which is a stabilized mixture of East Nordid and Lappid, and that during the Slavic migrations they mixed with Teuto Nordid and Dalo Nordid Germanic people in Central Europe, Dinarid Greaco-Albanian people (Illyrians, Dacians, Thracians, and Greeks) in the Balkans, and both Osteuropid/East Europid Baltic people and Lappid Uralic people in Northern Russia, all of which is shown in Schwidetzky’s Map you posted, ?

[cass]

Where do I contradict Schwidetzky, I am saying that the Proto-Slavs were Osteuropid/East Europid, which is a stabilized mixture of East Nordid and Lappid, and that during the Slavic migrations they mixed with Teuto Nordid and Dalo Nordid Germanic people in Central Europe, Dinarid Greaco-Albanian people (Illyrians, Dacians, Thracians, and Greeks) in the Balkans, and both Osteuropid/East Europid Baltic people and Lappid Uralic people in Northern Russia, all of which is shown in Schwidetzky’s Map you posted, ?

I decided to make this handy list that shows each of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components in the Charts I posted paired with their dominant Subrace/Phenotype based on the Eickstedt/Schwidetzky/Knussmann Racial classification system, Enjoy, !

Proto-Slavic=East Europid
Proto-Baltic=East Europid

Don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

[cass]

If you had read Schwidetzky, Czekanowski, Niederle or Coon, you wouldn’t be saying such nonsense.”


1.
„Für die Urslawen vor der Wanderungszeit muß danach ein nordisch–osteuropides Gemenge als kennzeichnend angesehen werden. Dabei kann der nordische Bestandteil als indogermanischen Ursprungs gelten.”


Ilse Schwidetzky, Rassenkunde der Altslawen.



“For the Proto-Slavs before the migration period, a Nordic–Osteuropid mixture must therefore be regarded as characteristic. The Nordic component can be considered of Indo-European origin.”

2.

„So hob sich ein Gürtel besonderer Häufung nordischer Merkmale im ganzen mittleren Norden von der Saale bis ins nördliche Weißrußland ab.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…


“A belt of particularly high concentration of Nordic traits stood out across the entire central northern area from the Saale to northern Belarus.”

3.

„Wurzel und Kern der slawischen Völker [sei] derselbe langschädlige und hellfarbige Typus, der für die benachbarten ‘arischen’ Stämme als kennzeichnend galt.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…



“The root and core of the Slavic peoples [is] the same long-headed and light-colored type that was regarded as characteristic of the neighboring ‘Aryan’ tribes.”

4.

„Die älteste Serie … trägt in allen Merkmalen eine stärker nordische Prägung.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…


“The oldest series … shows in all characteristics a stronger Nordic imprint.”

5.

„Es ist keineswegs unwahrscheinlich, daß bereits im urfinno-ugrischen nordeurasischen Kulturkreis nordische Elemente vorhanden waren. Die Schädelfunde vom Ladogasee … zeigen nordische und cromagnide Züge.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…


“It is by no means unlikely that Nordic elements already existed in the proto-Finno-Ugric North-Eurasian cultural sphere. The skull finds from Lake Ladoga … show Nordic and Cro-Magnon features.”

6.

„Sie haben den Slawen … neues nordisches Blut zugeführt, das freilich in der Gesamtmasse der betreffenden Völker rasch versickerte.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…


“They brought the Slavs new Nordic blood, but in the overall population this quickly dissipated.”


7.
„In der Mitte des slawischen Verbreitungsgebietes schließen sich die Gruppen mit deutlichem Vorwiegen der Nordischen … zu einem geschlossenen Bereich zusammen.”


“In the center of the Slavic settlement area, the groups with a clear predominance of Nordics form a continuous zone.”


8.
„Und gewiß wird man mindestens für die Hauptmasse der slawischen Nordischen unmittelbar indogermanisch-schnurkeramischen Ursprung annehmen dürfen.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…



“And one may certainly assume that the main body of the Slavic Nordics was of direct Indo-European Corded Ware origin.”

[Wandal]

Where do I contradict Schwidetzky,

The stupid propaganda such as "Nordic" means "Germanic" "Teutonic" among other nonsense like "Indo European" and the other standard assumptions about the origins of European races. "Corded Ware" is another fake invention but that is a different subject.

For other maps see Czekanowski (1934) Człowiek w czasie i przestrzeni.

[userNa]

When Poles decide to hit you with academic knowledge, the ego plummets.

[King Lear]

If you had read Schwidetzky, Czekanowski, Niederle or Coon, you wouldn’t be saying such nonsense.”


1.
„Für die Urslawen vor der Wanderungszeit muß danach ein nordisch–osteuropides Gemenge als kennzeichnend angesehen werden. Dabei kann der nordische Bestandteil als indogermanischen Ursprungs gelten.”


Ilse Schwidetzky, Rassenkunde der Altslawen.



“For the Proto-Slavs before the migration period, a Nordic–Osteuropid mixture must therefore be regarded as characteristic. The Nordic component can be considered of Indo-European origin.”

2.

„So hob sich ein Gürtel besonderer Häufung nordischer Merkmale im ganzen mittleren Norden von der Saale bis ins nördliche Weißrußland ab.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…


“A belt of particularly high concentration of Nordic traits stood out across the entire central northern area from the Saale to northern Belarus.”

3.

„Wurzel und Kern der slawischen Völker [sei] derselbe langschädlige und hellfarbige Typus, der für die benachbarten ‘arischen’ Stämme als kennzeichnend galt.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…



“The root and core of the Slavic peoples [is] the same long-headed and light-colored type that was regarded as characteristic of the neighboring ‘Aryan’ tribes.”

4.

„Die älteste Serie … trägt in allen Merkmalen eine stärker nordische Prägung.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…


“The oldest series … shows in all characteristics a stronger Nordic imprint.”

5.

„Es ist keineswegs unwahrscheinlich, daß bereits im urfinno-ugrischen nordeurasischen Kulturkreis nordische Elemente vorhanden waren. Die Schädelfunde vom Ladogasee … zeigen nordische und cromagnide Züge.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…


“It is by no means unlikely that Nordic elements already existed in the proto-Finno-Ugric North-Eurasian cultural sphere. The skull finds from Lake Ladoga … show Nordic and Cro-Magnon features.”

6.

„Sie haben den Slawen … neues nordisches Blut zugeführt, das freilich in der Gesamtmasse der betreffenden Völker rasch versickerte.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…


“They brought the Slavs new Nordic blood, but in the overall population this quickly dissipated.”


7.
„In der Mitte des slawischen Verbreitungsgebietes schließen sich die Gruppen mit deutlichem Vorwiegen der Nordischen … zu einem geschlossenen Bereich zusammen.”


“In the center of the Slavic settlement area, the groups with a clear predominance of Nordics form a continuous zone.”


8.
„Und gewiß wird man mindestens für die Hauptmasse der slawischen Nordischen unmittelbar indogermanisch-schnurkeramischen Ursprung annehmen dürfen.”


ilse-schwidetzky-rassenkunde-de…



“And one may certainly assume that the main body of the Slavic Nordics was of direct Indo-European Corded Ware origin.”

I originally had both Proto-Baltic and Proto-Slavic=Osteuropid/East Europid and East Nordid, which is probably more accurate and I will probably edit it back to that after reading your In-depth critique citing Schwidetzky’s work, but the reason I removed East Nordid as one of the dominant Subraces amongst Proto-Slavs and Proto-Balts, is due to the fact that the Osteuropid/East Europid Subrace is a stabilized mixture of East Nordids and Lappids, that first emerged when Balto-Slavic Indo-Europeans first mixed with Uralic people in Northeastern Europe around 4000 years ago, so I thought it was redundant to mention it because Osteuropids/East Europids are partially East Nordid by definition, with the same logic applying to why I removed East Nordid from the Proto-Iranian, Proto-Indo-Aryan, and Tocharian components as well, because Iranids (an Orientalid variety that are basically Arabids with slight East Nordid admixture from the Indo-European migration of Iranian tribes to the Iranian plateau and southern Central Asia 3000-3500 years ago), North Indids (an Indid variety that is essentially a stabilized mixture of Iranids and Gracile Indids that emerged during the Indo-European migration of Indo-Aryans to the Northern Indian subcontinent 3500 years ago), and Turanids (a stabilized Europid-Mongolid Transitional Subrace that combines Iranid, East Nordid, and Tungid elements, that slowly emerged in Central Asia over the past 3000 years of interactions between Indo-European, Turkic, and Mongolic populations) all involved East Nordids in their formation, !

[Wandal]

I!

You are just copying and pasting from very speculative and often biased sources which were more propaganda than scientific.
For example "Pre-Greek Anatolian=Armenid" Ridiculous.