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    Default Black African ancestry in Middle East & East Africa

    I found this on Reddit.



    Link to the topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...t_east_africa/

    There are Luo peoples in the list - Anuak

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    Quote Originally Posted by aura254 View Post
    I found this on Reddit.



    Link to the topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...t_east_africa/

    There are Luo peoples in the list - Anuak

    It is probably higher than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aura254 View Post
    I found this on Reddit.



    Link to the topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...t_east_africa/

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    For Yemenis, the average SSA ancestry is around 20%, so it's much higher than what's in the graph. For Palestinians though it's accurate. My SSA admixture stems from East African/Nilotic sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkster View Post
    For Yemenis, the average SSA ancestry is around 20%, so it's much higher than what's in the graph. For Palestinians though it's accurate. My SSA admixture stems from East African/Nilotic sources.
    Loool, who made this? Palestinians have more SSA than Yemeni Arabs hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dardanos View Post
    Loool, who made this? Palestinians have more SSA than Yemeni Arabs hahaha.
    It's strange. The average SSA admixture in Palestinians is between 4 to 6% in G25 while Yemenis are around 20% on average. The graph isn't accurate, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkster View Post
    It's strange. The average SSA admixture in Palestinians is between 4 to 6% in G25 while Yemenis are around 20% on average. The graph isn't accurate, yeah.
    I’ve seen that Arabs from the peninsula, if they have high SSA, develop a pseudo-Somali look.
    I’ve never seen a Palestinian looking African, even those with above-average admixture. I see threads like this on Reddit sometimes.

    So whoever made this was either trying to push an agenda or simply ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dardanos View Post
    I’ve seen that Arabs from the peninsula, if they have high SSA, develop a pseudo-Somali look.
    I’ve never seen a Palestinian looking African, even those with above-average admixture. I see threads like this on Reddit sometimes.

    So whoever made this was either trying to push an agenda or simply ignorant.
    I don't think it's an agenda per say, but yeah, the graph isn't accurate at all. My SSA ancestry is around 3%, and it's Nilotic-like or East African which makes sense.

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    I think coastal Yemenis might even be over 20%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aura254 View Post
    I think coastal Yemenis might even be over 20%.
    It is. Google AI:
    The black admixture in Yemenis is primarily due to recent and ancient gene flow from East Africa, largely through the slave trade and earlier migrations. DNA studies show significant African matrilineal influence and more recent gene flow, with some individuals having up to 20% of their genetic ancestry from Africa. This historical connection to East Africa has contributed to the diversity within the Yemeni population, with groups like the Akhdam specifically having origins traced to the slave trade.
    Historical and genetic influences
    East African slave trade: For centuries, Yemen was a major hub in the Red Sea slave trade, with many enslaved people brought from East Africa. This history has left a genetic legacy, particularly in the matrilineal (mother-line) DNA, with studies finding significant African-specific mitochondrial DNA haplogroups.
    Recent gene flow: Genetic analysis indicates a substantial gene flow event from East Africa into Yemen that occurred around 750 years ago, likely reflecting the impact of the slave trade.
    Earlier migrations: There is also evidence of older, more ancient gene flow from Africa and other neighboring regions like the Levant, which has contributed to the broader genetic makeup of the Yemeni population.
    Regional differences: The extent of African admixture varies across Yemen. Coastal areas show a greater genetic impact, while inland populations like those in Ma'rib appear more genetically isolated from this African gene flow, potentially reflecting the population's ancestry before the more recent migrations.
    Specific groups: The Afro-Yemeni community includes groups like the Akhdam, whose origins are directly traced to the East African slave trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aura254 View Post
    I think coastal Yemenis might even be over 20%.
    Yup.

    Official G25 coords only have Yemenis from the interior, isolated areas though.

    There's a severe lack of coastal Yemenis in Eurogenes G25 spreadsheets.

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