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    My different G25 .------ Sheet Moriopoulos Collection 2025 - Moderns (No Sims) Averages

    Target: Wend .kruzek_sample_synteticDNAgenics
    Distance: 1.1768% / 0.01176792 | ADC: 1x
    87.8 Czech_(n=21)
    8.6 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk_(n=1)
    3.6 Polish_Wielkopolska_(n=11)


    Target: kruzekeuk13g25sim-Admx:
    Distance: 2.4417% / 0.02441721 | ADC: 1x
    34.4 Czech_(n=21)
    27.8 German_East_(n=14)
    23.6 German_Thuringia_(n=1)
    11.2 Polish_Wielkopolska_(n=11)
    3.0 Slovincian_(n=2)


    Target: kruzekeu15g25sim-ADMX:
    Distance: 1.5749% / 0.01574879 | ADC: 1x
    52.6 Slovincian_(n=2)
    23.8 Polish_Silesia_(n=2)
    23.6 Croat_Slavonia_(n=1)


    Target: LudoK35tog25
    Distance: 1.6136% / 0.01613564 | ADC: 1x
    41.0 Ukrainian_Lviv_(n=11)
    25.2 Croat_Slavonia_(n=1)
    20.6 Slovincian_(n=2)
    7.8 Czech_(n=21)
    5.4 German_Saxony_Leipzig_(n=8)


    Target: Ludok36ngang25sim
    Distance: 1.4699% / 0.01469895 | ADC: 1x
    44.6 Ukrainian_Lviv_(n=11)
    29.4 Slovincian_(n=2)
    13.8 Czech_(n=21)
    12.2 Croat_Slavonia_(n=1)


    Target: Wend-Kruzek_simulated_g25_scaled
    Distance: 1.0283% / 0.01028316 | ADC: 1x
    77.0 Ukrainian_Lviv_(n=11)
    11.6 Croat_Kajkavian_Northern_Croatia_(n=7)
    11.4 Czech_(n=21)


    Target: Kruzek-k36admixMarquesEUro_scaled
    Distance: 1.0048% / 0.01004767 | ADC: 1x
    77.0 Ukrainian_Lviv_(n=11)
    14.2 Czech_(n=21)
    8.8 Croat_Kajkavian_Northern_Croatia_(n=7)


    Target: Wend-Kruzek_scaled-Dav-orig-illustra
    Distance: 1.4757% / 0.01475654 | ADC: 1x
    48.4 German_Saxony_Leipzig_(n=8)
    24.4 Croat_Kajkavian_Northern_Croatia_(n=7)
    22.6 Ukrainian_Cossack_Dnipropetrovsk_(n=1)
    4.6 Ukrainian_Lviv_(n=11)

    It all wanders exactly according to the map from ph2ter

    I have R1a-yp1337. So East Germany , Bohemia+Moravia fits.
    I have a lot in my family tree, surnames originating in the West /Northern/ Balkans - that fits too.
    Ukraine - Typically Slavic element.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabricius View Post

    Target: Repent:Genoplot_sim_K13basedG25_scaled
    Distance: 1.1248% / 0.01124835
    59.0 Northeastern_European
    23.6 Southeastern_European
    16.0 Northwestern_European
    1.4 Siberian

    Target: Repent:Genoplot_sim_K13basedG25_MergedFile_scaled
    Distance: 1.4804% / 0.01480351
    61.8 Northeastern_European
    24.6 Southeastern_European
    12.2 Northwestern_European
    1.4 Siberian

    Target: Repent:RealG25(Davidski)_scaled
    Distance: 1.9135% / 0.01913464
    72.0 Northeastern_European
    24.8 Southeastern_European
    3.2 Siberian

    I do not know which type of Ashkenazi Jewish my grandma was, but by the only DNA test I did the closest regions for my Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry are Belarusia or Central Ukraine, so if DNA test is fully right to very close one, then Davidski outdid even merged file sim (I've heard that merged file is a better one, so when I will have an opportunity I will buy coordinates for the merged file too).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wend-Kruzek View Post
    My different G25 .------ Sheet Moriopoulos Collection 2025 - Moderns (No Sims) Averages (...)
    Interesting!

    Thanks for sharing, I'm only seeing it now. "Czech" and Ukrainian are constant and the rest seems natural to me, nothing bizarre.
    "Sheet Moriopoulos Collection 2025" is an extensive collection of 2080 samples and nothing exotic appears in your simulated coordinates.

    Thanks again!
    German_Kingdom-of-Prussia_(ghost),0.1345579,0.1314643,0.0715706,0.05 88402,0.0426589,0.0228925,0.0074964,0.0097798,0.00 24535,-0.0110713,-0.0053468,-0.0024884,0.0033076,0.0113027,0.0049235,0.0035482,-0.0017119,0.000753,0.0040701,0.003331,0.002137,-0.0029782,0.0030389,0.0047346,0.0012004

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repent View Post
    Target: Repent:Genoplot_sim_K13basedG25_scaled
    Distance: 1.1248% / 0.01124835
    59.0 Northeastern_European
    23.6 Southeastern_European
    16.0 Northwestern_European
    1.4 Siberian

    Target: Repent:Genoplot_sim_K13basedG25_MergedFile_scaled
    Distance: 1.4804% / 0.01480351
    61.8 Northeastern_European
    24.6 Southeastern_European
    12.2 Northwestern_European
    1.4 Siberian

    Target: Repent:RealG25(Davidski)_scaled
    Distance: 1.9135% / 0.01913464
    72.0 Northeastern_European
    24.8 Southeastern_European
    3.2 Siberian

    I do not know which type of Ashkenazi Jewish my grandma was, but by the only DNA test I did the closest regions for my Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry are Belarusia or Central Ukraine, so if DNA test is fully right to very close one, then Davidski outdid even merged file sim (I've heard that merged file is a better one, so when I will have an opportunity I will buy coordinates for the merged file too).
    Thank you very much, Repent!
    When you increase distance for the simulated ones, the Northwest European disappear like in your official coordinate?

    About the Ashkenazi, maybe you can try to put the sign : after Ashkenazi.

    Instead of use:
    Ashkenazi_Austria,0.095611,0.137096,-0.011502,-0.047481,0.010925,-0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002884,0.009715,0.014214,0.002923,-0.001649,-0.000595,0.001101,-0.00475,0.001525,-0.008605,6.3e-05,-0.001446,-0.002814,-0.002184,-0.003091,-0.001417,0.001205,-0.000898
    Ashkenazi_Belarussia,0.101915,0.133972,-0.00734,-0.03958,0.010771,-0.014459,-0.001012,-0.00103,0.005727,0.014621,0.002448,-0.000369,0.00231,-0.001461,-0.002944,0.002795,0.001815,-0.000341,0.001489,-0.00126,-0.003859,-0.00077,0.00274,0.001566,-0.000295
    Ashkenazi_France,0.095611,0.143697,-0.015132,-0.051357,0.009309,-0.019487,-0.002526,-0.002048,0.008564,0.019545,0.003776,-0.000937,0.002509,-0.002305,-0.003647,0.003182,0.000896,-0.002265,-0.002137,-0.005393,-0.000889,-0.00289,0.00037,0.002591,0.001602
    Ashkenazi_Germany,0.097319,0.142377,-0.014406,-0.049936,0.010925,-0.018769,-0.001974,-0.001754,0.009858,0.018843,0.003962,-0.001124,0.002512,-0.00267,-0.005049,0.003089,0.002203,-0.001698,-0.000779,-0.001126,-0.003344,-0.002696,0.000875,0.001386,0.000814
    Ashkenazi_Latvia,0.097319,0.135065,-0.016216,-0.043767,0.00677,-0.015757,-0.00329,-0.004038,0.004909,0.013485,0.001949,0.001723,0.006 467,0.002133,-0.006922,-0.004177,-0.006128,-0.001077,-0.000754,-0.005753,-0.003931,-0.002782,0.001849,0.003012,0.003413
    Ashkenazi_Lithuania,0.099854,0.132757,-0.009222,-0.040375,0.009484,-0.014147,-0.000556,-0.001175,0.006061,0.013701,0.00155,-0.001853,0.002568,0.000625,-0.004442,0.003459,0.0016,0.000161,0.000446,-0.003172,-0.003256,-0.00335,0.002924,0.002443,-0.001056
    Ashkenazi_Poland,0.100117,0.136843,-0.007338,-0.043,0.009797,-0.015409,-0.000881,-0.000894,0.008198,0.014275,0.001164,-0.000593,0.00288,0.000166,-0.004145,-0.001674,-0.003765,3.2e-05,-0.000807,-0.004064,-0.002678,-0.002272,0.001689,0.002169,0.001527
    Ashkenazi_Romania,0.102441,0.137096,-0.006222,-0.042798,0.010002,-0.015478,-0.00376,-0.000808,0.006238,0.015034,0.004141,0.002473,-0.000446,-0.000413,-0.001968,-0.001326,-0.003651,0.000697,-0.000817,-0.008316,-0.003806,-0.003277,0.001725,0.006868,0.000359
    Ashkenazi_Russia,0.101189,0.131511,-0.006449,-0.038276,0.010371,-0.014335,-0.001951,-0.000185,0.006545,0.01405,0.00112,3e-04,0.002141,0.00033,-0.005035,-0.000265,-0.001213,-0.00057,-0.002137,-0.003126,-0.003569,-0.002955,0.000629,0.004579,-0.001221
    Ashkenazi_Ukraine,0.099424,0.135116,-0.005506,-0.040117,0.012048,-0.014265,-0.001093,0.000115,0.007772,0.012939,0.000804,0.000 112,0.002416,0.000523,-0.00283,-0.00183,-0.004322,-1.9e-05,0.001276,-0.004677,-0.003126,-0.002591,0.00077,0.002103,0.001006



    You should to use:
    Ashkenazi:_Austria,0.095611,0.137096,-0.011502,-0.047481,0.010925,-0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002884,0.009715,0.014214,0.002923,-0.001649,-0.000595,0.001101,-0.00475,0.001525,-0.008605,6.3e-05,-0.001446,-0.002814,-0.002184,-0.003091,-0.001417,0.001205,-0.000898
    Ashkenazi:_Belarussia,0.101915,0.133972,-0.00734,-0.03958,0.010771,-0.014459,-0.001012,-0.00103,0.005727,0.014621,0.002448,-0.000369,0.00231,-0.001461,-0.002944,0.002795,0.001815,-0.000341,0.001489,-0.00126,-0.003859,-0.00077,0.00274,0.001566,-0.000295
    Ashkenazi:_France,0.095611,0.143697,-0.015132,-0.051357,0.009309,-0.019487,-0.002526,-0.002048,0.008564,0.019545,0.003776,-0.000937,0.002509,-0.002305,-0.003647,0.003182,0.000896,-0.002265,-0.002137,-0.005393,-0.000889,-0.00289,0.00037,0.002591,0.001602
    Ashkenazi:_Germany,0.097319,0.142377,-0.014406,-0.049936,0.010925,-0.018769,-0.001974,-0.001754,0.009858,0.018843,0.003962,-0.001124,0.002512,-0.00267,-0.005049,0.003089,0.002203,-0.001698,-0.000779,-0.001126,-0.003344,-0.002696,0.000875,0.001386,0.000814
    Ashkenazi:_Latvia,0.097319,0.135065,-0.016216,-0.043767,0.00677,-0.015757,-0.00329,-0.004038,0.004909,0.013485,0.001949,0.001723,0.006 467,0.002133,-0.006922,-0.004177,-0.006128,-0.001077,-0.000754,-0.005753,-0.003931,-0.002782,0.001849,0.003012,0.003413
    Ashkenazi:_Lithuania,0.099854,0.132757,-0.009222,-0.040375,0.009484,-0.014147,-0.000556,-0.001175,0.006061,0.013701,0.00155,-0.001853,0.002568,0.000625,-0.004442,0.003459,0.0016,0.000161,0.000446,-0.003172,-0.003256,-0.00335,0.002924,0.002443,-0.001056
    Ashkenazi:_Poland,0.100117,0.136843,-0.007338,-0.043,0.009797,-0.015409,-0.000881,-0.000894,0.008198,0.014275,0.001164,-0.000593,0.00288,0.000166,-0.004145,-0.001674,-0.003765,3.2e-05,-0.000807,-0.004064,-0.002678,-0.002272,0.001689,0.002169,0.001527
    Ashkenazi:_Romania,0.102441,0.137096,-0.006222,-0.042798,0.010002,-0.015478,-0.00376,-0.000808,0.006238,0.015034,0.004141,0.002473,-0.000446,-0.000413,-0.001968,-0.001326,-0.003651,0.000697,-0.000817,-0.008316,-0.003806,-0.003277,0.001725,0.006868,0.000359
    Ashkenazi:_Russia,0.101189,0.131511,-0.006449,-0.038276,0.010371,-0.014335,-0.001951,-0.000185,0.006545,0.01405,0.00112,3e-04,0.002141,0.00033,-0.005035,-0.000265,-0.001213,-0.00057,-0.002137,-0.003126,-0.003569,-0.002955,0.000629,0.004579,-0.001221
    Ashkenazi:_Ukraine,0.099424,0.135116,-0.005506,-0.040117,0.012048,-0.014265,-0.001093,0.000115,0.007772,0.012939,0.000804,0.000 112,0.002416,0.000523,-0.00283,-0.00183,-0.004322,-1.9e-05,0.001276,-0.004677,-0.003126,-0.002591,0.00077,0.002103,0.001006

    And in Vahaduo you should to use "Aggregate yes". I believe it will force an overlapping of Ashkenazi.
    If you wasn't Russia and European, I would to say you should exclude Russia and the East of Europe.

    You can also make averages of Ashkenazi here: https://dna-tools.xyz/
    I suggest at least Western and Eastern samples. You can divide Baltic-Polish-Belarussian Ashkenazi and the ones of Ukraine, Romania, Balkans.
    German_Kingdom-of-Prussia_(ghost),0.1345579,0.1314643,0.0715706,0.05 88402,0.0426589,0.0228925,0.0074964,0.0097798,0.00 24535,-0.0110713,-0.0053468,-0.0024884,0.0033076,0.0113027,0.0049235,0.0035482,-0.0017119,0.000753,0.0040701,0.003331,0.002137,-0.0029782,0.0030389,0.0047346,0.0012004

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wend-Kruzek View Post
    My different G25 .------ Sheet Moriopoulos Collection 2025 - Moderns (No Sims) Averages (...)
    My results with this calculator.
    I usually score something from Southeastern Europe with simulated of K36 and directly from MyHeritage Raw Data. I believe if there is such connection, it is very old.
    K13 and K15 results are more "conservatives" or "moderated", and I feel no need for increase the distances.

    Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
    Distance: 1.4007% / 0.01400674 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    60.8 Spanish_Canarias_Gran_Canaria_(Canarian)_(n=114)
    18.0 French_Occitan_Provence-Alpes-Cote_d'Azur_o_(n=1)
    15.8 German_Hamburg_o_(n=1)
    5.4 African_American_(n=24)

    Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
    Distance: 1.5250% / 0.01525017 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    70.2 Spanish_Canarias_Gran_Canaria_(Canarian)_(n=114)
    24.6 German_Hamburg_o_(n=1)
    5.2 African_American_(n=24)

    Target: Fabricius_K36-G25
    Distance: 1.5021% / 0.01502076 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    44.8 Spanish_Canarias_La_Gomera_(Canarian)_(n=76)
    24.0 Spanish_Canarias_La_Gomera_(Canarian)_o2_(n=1)
    14.8 German_Hamburg_o_(n=1)
    8.2 Polish_Mazovia_(n=2)
    4.6 Spanish_Canarias_Gran_Canaria_(Canarian)_(n=114)
    3.6 Puerto_Rican_(n=5)

    Target: Fabricius_MyHeritage-to-g25(simulated)
    Distance: 1.2878% / 0.01287760 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    31.0 Spanish_Canarias_La_Gomera_(Canarian)_o2_(n=1)
    25.6 Spanish_Canarias_La_Gomera_(Canarian)_(n=76)
    14.6 German_Hamburg_o_(n=1)
    12.2 Moldovan_o2_(n=1)
    9.8 Puerto_Rican_(n=5)
    6.8 Serb_Serbia_Moravica_(n=2)
    German_Kingdom-of-Prussia_(ghost),0.1345579,0.1314643,0.0715706,0.05 88402,0.0426589,0.0228925,0.0074964,0.0097798,0.00 24535,-0.0110713,-0.0053468,-0.0024884,0.0033076,0.0113027,0.0049235,0.0035482,-0.0017119,0.000753,0.0040701,0.003331,0.002137,-0.0029782,0.0030389,0.0047346,0.0012004

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabricius View Post
    Thank you very much, Repent!
    When you increase distance for the simulated ones, the Northwest European disappear like in your official coordinate?

    About the Ashkenazi, maybe you can try to put the sign : after Ashkenazi.

    Instead of use:
    Ashkenazi_Austria,0.095611,0.137096,-0.011502,-0.047481,0.010925,-0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002884,0.009715,0.014214,0.002923,-0.001649,-0.000595,0.001101,-0.00475,0.001525,-0.008605,6.3e-05,-0.001446,-0.002814,-0.002184,-0.003091,-0.001417,0.001205,-0.000898
    Ashkenazi_Belarussia,0.101915,0.133972,-0.00734,-0.03958,0.010771,-0.014459,-0.001012,-0.00103,0.005727,0.014621,0.002448,-0.000369,0.00231,-0.001461,-0.002944,0.002795,0.001815,-0.000341,0.001489,-0.00126,-0.003859,-0.00077,0.00274,0.001566,-0.000295
    Ashkenazi_France,0.095611,0.143697,-0.015132,-0.051357,0.009309,-0.019487,-0.002526,-0.002048,0.008564,0.019545,0.003776,-0.000937,0.002509,-0.002305,-0.003647,0.003182,0.000896,-0.002265,-0.002137,-0.005393,-0.000889,-0.00289,0.00037,0.002591,0.001602
    Ashkenazi_Germany,0.097319,0.142377,-0.014406,-0.049936,0.010925,-0.018769,-0.001974,-0.001754,0.009858,0.018843,0.003962,-0.001124,0.002512,-0.00267,-0.005049,0.003089,0.002203,-0.001698,-0.000779,-0.001126,-0.003344,-0.002696,0.000875,0.001386,0.000814
    Ashkenazi_Latvia,0.097319,0.135065,-0.016216,-0.043767,0.00677,-0.015757,-0.00329,-0.004038,0.004909,0.013485,0.001949,0.001723,0.006 467,0.002133,-0.006922,-0.004177,-0.006128,-0.001077,-0.000754,-0.005753,-0.003931,-0.002782,0.001849,0.003012,0.003413
    Ashkenazi_Lithuania,0.099854,0.132757,-0.009222,-0.040375,0.009484,-0.014147,-0.000556,-0.001175,0.006061,0.013701,0.00155,-0.001853,0.002568,0.000625,-0.004442,0.003459,0.0016,0.000161,0.000446,-0.003172,-0.003256,-0.00335,0.002924,0.002443,-0.001056
    Ashkenazi_Poland,0.100117,0.136843,-0.007338,-0.043,0.009797,-0.015409,-0.000881,-0.000894,0.008198,0.014275,0.001164,-0.000593,0.00288,0.000166,-0.004145,-0.001674,-0.003765,3.2e-05,-0.000807,-0.004064,-0.002678,-0.002272,0.001689,0.002169,0.001527
    Ashkenazi_Romania,0.102441,0.137096,-0.006222,-0.042798,0.010002,-0.015478,-0.00376,-0.000808,0.006238,0.015034,0.004141,0.002473,-0.000446,-0.000413,-0.001968,-0.001326,-0.003651,0.000697,-0.000817,-0.008316,-0.003806,-0.003277,0.001725,0.006868,0.000359
    Ashkenazi_Russia,0.101189,0.131511,-0.006449,-0.038276,0.010371,-0.014335,-0.001951,-0.000185,0.006545,0.01405,0.00112,3e-04,0.002141,0.00033,-0.005035,-0.000265,-0.001213,-0.00057,-0.002137,-0.003126,-0.003569,-0.002955,0.000629,0.004579,-0.001221
    Ashkenazi_Ukraine,0.099424,0.135116,-0.005506,-0.040117,0.012048,-0.014265,-0.001093,0.000115,0.007772,0.012939,0.000804,0.000 112,0.002416,0.000523,-0.00283,-0.00183,-0.004322,-1.9e-05,0.001276,-0.004677,-0.003126,-0.002591,0.00077,0.002103,0.001006



    You should to use:
    Ashkenazi:_Austria,0.095611,0.137096,-0.011502,-0.047481,0.010925,-0.014781,-0.00235,-0.002884,0.009715,0.014214,0.002923,-0.001649,-0.000595,0.001101,-0.00475,0.001525,-0.008605,6.3e-05,-0.001446,-0.002814,-0.002184,-0.003091,-0.001417,0.001205,-0.000898
    Ashkenazi:_Belarussia,0.101915,0.133972,-0.00734,-0.03958,0.010771,-0.014459,-0.001012,-0.00103,0.005727,0.014621,0.002448,-0.000369,0.00231,-0.001461,-0.002944,0.002795,0.001815,-0.000341,0.001489,-0.00126,-0.003859,-0.00077,0.00274,0.001566,-0.000295
    Ashkenazi:_France,0.095611,0.143697,-0.015132,-0.051357,0.009309,-0.019487,-0.002526,-0.002048,0.008564,0.019545,0.003776,-0.000937,0.002509,-0.002305,-0.003647,0.003182,0.000896,-0.002265,-0.002137,-0.005393,-0.000889,-0.00289,0.00037,0.002591,0.001602
    Ashkenazi:_Germany,0.097319,0.142377,-0.014406,-0.049936,0.010925,-0.018769,-0.001974,-0.001754,0.009858,0.018843,0.003962,-0.001124,0.002512,-0.00267,-0.005049,0.003089,0.002203,-0.001698,-0.000779,-0.001126,-0.003344,-0.002696,0.000875,0.001386,0.000814
    Ashkenazi:_Latvia,0.097319,0.135065,-0.016216,-0.043767,0.00677,-0.015757,-0.00329,-0.004038,0.004909,0.013485,0.001949,0.001723,0.006 467,0.002133,-0.006922,-0.004177,-0.006128,-0.001077,-0.000754,-0.005753,-0.003931,-0.002782,0.001849,0.003012,0.003413
    Ashkenazi:_Lithuania,0.099854,0.132757,-0.009222,-0.040375,0.009484,-0.014147,-0.000556,-0.001175,0.006061,0.013701,0.00155,-0.001853,0.002568,0.000625,-0.004442,0.003459,0.0016,0.000161,0.000446,-0.003172,-0.003256,-0.00335,0.002924,0.002443,-0.001056
    Ashkenazi:_Poland,0.100117,0.136843,-0.007338,-0.043,0.009797,-0.015409,-0.000881,-0.000894,0.008198,0.014275,0.001164,-0.000593,0.00288,0.000166,-0.004145,-0.001674,-0.003765,3.2e-05,-0.000807,-0.004064,-0.002678,-0.002272,0.001689,0.002169,0.001527
    Ashkenazi:_Romania,0.102441,0.137096,-0.006222,-0.042798,0.010002,-0.015478,-0.00376,-0.000808,0.006238,0.015034,0.004141,0.002473,-0.000446,-0.000413,-0.001968,-0.001326,-0.003651,0.000697,-0.000817,-0.008316,-0.003806,-0.003277,0.001725,0.006868,0.000359
    Ashkenazi:_Russia,0.101189,0.131511,-0.006449,-0.038276,0.010371,-0.014335,-0.001951,-0.000185,0.006545,0.01405,0.00112,3e-04,0.002141,0.00033,-0.005035,-0.000265,-0.001213,-0.00057,-0.002137,-0.003126,-0.003569,-0.002955,0.000629,0.004579,-0.001221
    Ashkenazi:_Ukraine,0.099424,0.135116,-0.005506,-0.040117,0.012048,-0.014265,-0.001093,0.000115,0.007772,0.012939,0.000804,0.000 112,0.002416,0.000523,-0.00283,-0.00183,-0.004322,-1.9e-05,0.001276,-0.004677,-0.003126,-0.002591,0.00077,0.002103,0.001006

    And in Vahaduo you should to use "Aggregate yes". I believe it will force an overlapping of Ashkenazi.
    If you wasn't Russia and European, I would to say you should exclude Russia and the East of Europe.

    You can also make averages of Ashkenazi here: https://dna-tools.xyz/
    I suggest at least Western and Eastern samples. You can divide Baltic-Polish-Belarussian Ashkenazi and the ones of Ukraine, Romania, Balkans.
    I've tried some things with this coordinates, but my opinion will be to get my 75% Russian result or 25% with any type of my coordinates (sim or scaled), I should have more Russian regional samples. Like Astrakhan Russia or Dagestan Russia (ethnic Russian one).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabricius View Post
    Thank you very much, Repent!


    Repent:RealG25(Davidski)_scaled,0.135449,0.108662, 0.059962,0.041344,0.034776,0.015339,0.009635,0.014 076,-0.004295,-0.019681,-0.005196,-0.009741,0.014866,0.020781,-0.014658,-0.004375,0.001434,0.00266,0.000126,-0.006003,-0.002121,0.004204,0.011709,0.001205,0.001796

    Repent:Genoplot_sim_K13basedG25_MergedFile_scaled, 0.1284,0.1157,0.0588,0.0502,0.0337,0.0158,0.0098,0 .0099,-0.0043,-0.015,-0.0032,-0.0054,0.0113,0.0125,-0.0108,0.0066,0.0134,0.0033,0.0052,0.0065,0.0013,-0.0049,0.0047,-0.0005,-0.0003

    Repent:Genoplot_sim_K13basedG25_scaled,0.1291,0.11 72,0.0579,0.048,0.0351,0.016,0.0086,0.0096,-0.003,-0.0126,-0.0035,-0.0044,0.0095,0.0127,-0.0088,0.0041,0.0095,0.0036,0.0055,0.0053,0.0009,-0.0044,0.0047,-0.0009,-0.0004

    Here you can use my coordinates for your comparing between real and sim coordinates, I can simulated another one, just tell me the service and I will see if it s
    Is available for Russia. You do not have to share the results, I am alright with that. Prolly if someone doesn't add up (my DNA test says that I am Russian 75% and Ashkenazi Jewish 25% (Maybe form Belarusia or Central Ukraine, not 100% sure) then try to use some additional coordinates that might make both genomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repent View Post
    Repent:RealG25(Davidski)_scaled,0.135449,0.108662, 0.059962,0.041344,0.034776,0.015339,0.009635,0.014 076,-0.004295,-0.019681,-0.005196,-0.009741,0.014866,0.020781,-0.014658,-0.004375,0.001434,0.00266,0.000126,-0.006003,-0.002121,0.004204,0.011709,0.001205,0.001796

    Repent:Genoplot_sim_K13basedG25_MergedFile_scaled, 0.1284,0.1157,0.0588,0.0502,0.0337,0.0158,0.0098,0 .0099,-0.0043,-0.015,-0.0032,-0.0054,0.0113,0.0125,-0.0108,0.0066,0.0134,0.0033,0.0052,0.0065,0.0013,-0.0049,0.0047,-0.0005,-0.0003

    Repent:Genoplot_sim_K13basedG25_scaled,0.1291,0.11 72,0.0579,0.048,0.0351,0.016,0.0086,0.0096,-0.003,-0.0126,-0.0035,-0.0044,0.0095,0.0127,-0.0088,0.0041,0.0095,0.0036,0.0055,0.0053,0.0009,-0.0044,0.0047,-0.0009,-0.0004

    Here you can use my coordinates for your comparing between real and sim coordinates, I can simulated another one, just tell me the service and I will see if it s
    Is available for Russia. You do not have to share the results, I am alright with that. Prolly if someone doesn't add up (my DNA test says that I am Russian 75% and Ashkenazi Jewish 25% (Maybe form Belarusia or Central Ukraine, not 100% sure) then try to use some additional coordinates that might make both genomes.
    Thanks, Repent!
    I greatly appreciate your generosity.

    Later I'll observe the difference by testing with thousands of samples (to see if the official one is less sensitive to noise), and with other classic calculators here at TA.

    My simulated coordinate straight from MyHeritage's raw data is more similar to the simulated one from K36.
    I believe that nowhere is it yet possible to generate simulations directly from raw data. But it would be interesting to see your coordinate from K36.
    If possible. do it whenever you want, here or DM, wherever you prefer.

    K13 is the most restricted in my case, and I believe the most accurate. If I only have this K13 of yours coordinate, it's still something interesting, as I imagine the official one by Davidiski is less sensitive to noise.
    So K13 is good as well.
    German_Kingdom-of-Prussia_(ghost),0.1345579,0.1314643,0.0715706,0.05 88402,0.0426589,0.0228925,0.0074964,0.0097798,0.00 24535,-0.0110713,-0.0053468,-0.0024884,0.0033076,0.0113027,0.0049235,0.0035482,-0.0017119,0.000753,0.0040701,0.003331,0.002137,-0.0029782,0.0030389,0.0047346,0.0012004

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    Using the same model:

    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.7484% / 0.01748429
    45.6 West_Iberian
    33.6 West_African
    11.6 Central_African
    6.8 Levant_and_Arabia
    2.4 South_American


    Target: JingleBell_simulated_K36_to_g25_simulated_g25_scal ed
    Distance: 1.3238% / 0.01323806
    41.0 West_Iberian
    30.0 West_African
    14.2 Central_African
    6.6 Levant_and_Arabia
    6.4 Maghreb_and_West_Sahara

    1.8 South_American

    Target: Mom_simulated_K36_to_g25_scaled(Lowcoverage)
    Distance: 0.9671% / 0.00967134
    32.8 West_Iberian
    30.0 West_African
    26.2 Central_African
    10.6 Levant_and_Arabia
    0.4 South_American

    Target: Mom_simulated_by_exploreyourdna
    Distance: 3.8758% / 0.03875752
    40.8 West_Iberian
    38.2 West_African
    16.2 Central_African
    4.8 Levant_and_Arabia

    Target: Dad_simulated_K36_to_g25_scaled
    Distance: 1.1424% / 0.01142448
    48.8 West_Iberian
    31.2 West_African
    8.6 Levant_and_Arabia
    5.6 South_American
    5.0 Central_African
    0.8 Maghreb_and_West_Sahara

    Target: JingleBell_Dad_scaled
    Distance: 1.0657% / 0.01065697
    48.6 West_Iberian
    29.0 West_African
    9.6 Levant_and_Arabia
    6.6 Central_African
    6.2 South_American

    The main change is usually in MENA/Iberian %, k36 seens to make us more east-med/north-african.
    Distance: 1.3003% / 0.01300250 | R5P
    44.6 Spanish_Canarias_Gran_Canaria_(Canarian)_o_(n=3)
    28.8 Esan_(n=8)
    14.4 Ronga_(n=3)
    9.0 Egyptian_Arab_Muslim_Sharqia_(n=2)
    3.2 Surui_(n=7)

    Other ancestors y-DNA's: E-M81 (possibly E-PF2546), R-L52 (possibly R-L151)

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