2026 Euro topographic calc!

[JerryS.]

Doesn't copy and paste right for me, says there's a column number error.

[Defcon2]

Target: Defcon2
Distance: 488.2205% / 4.88220510
60.0 The_Pyrenees
34.6 Iberian_Peninsula
5.4 Mediterranean_Islands

[leachim_x]

Target: Lx_K13
Distance: 218.1606% / 2.18160575 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.6 North_European_Plain
43.0 Atlantic_Plain
5.4 The_Alps

Target: Lx_K13
Distance: 207.5449% / 2.07544915
53.6 North_European_Plain
42.6 Atlantic_Plain
2.8 Iberian_Peninsula
1.0 Northern_Caucasus


Distance to: Lx_K13
5.86526103 North_European_Plain
6.53919220 Atlantic_Plain
14.31326592 The_Alps
17.54825263 Fennoscandia
18.34730569 Pannonian_Plain
22.00010214 Carpathian_Mountains
24.24798223 Dinaric_Alps
25.25628771 The_Pyrenees
25.47632279 Iberian_Peninsula
26.53280390 East_European_Plain
27.03179625 Po_Valley
29.76885018 Danubian_Plain
32.10000161 Balkan_Pindus_Rhodope
38.11938659 Apennine_Mountains
42.73166735 Mediterranean_Islands
57.65011602 Northern_Caucasus

[gixajo]

Doesn't copy and paste right for me, says there's a column number error.

It´s K13 coordinates, not G25.

Perhaps the number of decimal places made you think they were coordinates of G25, but no.

[Feiichy]

Interesting results as if you were a Romanian. Why did you get 87% Carpathian Mountains while getting zero Dinaric Alps?

Because Carpathian average is Croat/Bosniak like while ironically Dinaric Alps average is Romanian like. Average is made of many averages of groups that live in said area, so in Dinaric Alps it includes southern shifted groups like Albanians, and in Carpathians, north shifted groups like Rusyns/Ruthenians...

She should add Slovakia too.

Attachment 145696

Slovak average was included in making Carpathian average.

[Feiichy]

Why did you choose K13 for this experiment? I recommend doing this idea with official samples.

Updated K13 has much more numerous and much better regional averages than G25. G25 modern averages are trash.

[ScandinavianCelt]

This is what I get making K13 coordinates with the top 18 European-only segments, measuring 490 cM of data:

Target: SC_EuropeanOnlySegments_K13_top18seg_5.13%DNA
Distance: 2398.3550% / 23.98355010
77.2 Atlantic_Plain
22.8 Fennoscandia


Running the same Euro-only segments with the Dodecad Euro 7 calc (it breaks down regions well), it looks this way:

Components %
Caucasus 0.00
Northwestern 61.12
Northeastern 25.97
Southeastern 0.00
African 0.00
Far_Asian 0.00
Southwestern 12.91


That said, I'm guessing my SW and NW here makes up "Atlantic Plain"? And the NE result is the Fennoscandian?

[Feiichy]

bit different result with Ancestry data (tighter fit):

Target: Feiichy
Distance: 2.4233% / 2.42334789

72.4 Carpathian_Mountains
16.8 North_European_Plain
6.0 Northern_Caucasus
4.8 The_Pyrenees

[Feiichy]

This is what I get making K13 coordinates with the top 18 European-only segments, measuring 490 cM of data:

Target: SC_EuropeanOnlySegments_K13_top18seg_5.13%DNA
Distance: 2398.3550% / 23.98355010
77.2 Atlantic_Plain
22.8 Fennoscandia


Running the same Euro-only segments with the Dodecad Euro 7 calc (it breaks down regions well), it looks this way:

Components %
Caucasus 0.00
Northwestern 61.12
Northeastern 25.97
Southeastern 0.00
African 0.00
Far_Asian 0.00
Southwestern 12.91


That said, I'm guessing my SW and NW here makes up "Atlantic Plain"? And the NE result is the Fennoscandian?

Fennoscandian average is very northern, because it includes groups like Saami.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Fennoscandian average is very northern, because it includes groups like Saami.

How did you get the raw percentages to so many decimal places? (Atlantic_Plain,49.2892308,21.8169231,15.5992308,5.3653846,4.2676923,0.77846 15,1.0284615,0.2123077,0.2923077,0.6430769,0.32923 08,0.1907692,0.1630769)


Also, I would suggest removing Saami when configuring Fennoscandia. That is such a minor element, on average, for most Scandinavians. Or, somehow just add it into the average not as an equal main group, but contributing maybe 3-4% into mainland Scando groups.