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Thread: DNA tests cannot determine one's ethnicity, they can only estimate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reboun View Post
    There are lots of Turkish people (at least 1/4 of Turkish population) plot in Balkans. Turkish averages on GEDmatch calculators clearly show there is a significant Balkan ancestry among Turks.
    All Balkan Turks, even Macedonian Turks, have medieval Turkic input and they’re not 100% same as Bulgarians or other Eastern South Slavs. More importantly, they have their own history, food, culture, and language, and they and their ancestors have identified as Turks. Civic identity is different from ethnic identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthrogenicaRefugee View Post
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    Before genealogical DNA tests, there has been a rhetoric in Turkey which says ”we are all Turkish citizens and we all came from many different lands and settled in Anatolia, mixed with each other and eventually modern Turkish ethnicity has been formed”. Such rhetoric was just an assumption and people who claim that would not guess their discourse might one day be proven wrong. Genealogical DNA tests disproved their claim.

    Instead of writing false scenarios, the following should have been said. ”There are lots of people with different ethnic backgrounds in Turkey and we shall not do any ethnic segregation between our compatriots.”
    Last edited by Narration; 01-24-2026 at 05:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narration View Post
    Before genealogical DNA tests, there has been a rhetoric in Turkey which says ”we are all Turkish citizens and we all came from many different lands and settled in Anatolia, mixed with each other and eventually modern Turkish ethnicity has been formed”. Such rhetoric was just an assumption and people who claim that would not guess their discourse might one day be proven wrong. Genealogical DNA tests disproved their claim.

    Instead of writing false scenarios, the following should have been said. ”There are lots of people with different ethnic backgrounds in Turkey and we shall not do any ethnic segregation between our compatriots.”
    It is not a rhetoric, it is a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reboun View Post
    It is not a rhetoric, it is a fact.
    You are relatively recent immigrant to Turkey from 1960s.
    100 years ago none of your ancestors were in Turkey.

    Da li se u tvojoj kući i dalje govori srpski/bosanski?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    You are relatively recent immigrant to Turkey from 1960s.
    100 years ago none of your ancestors were in Turkey.

    Da li se u tvojoj kući i dalje govori srpski/bosanski?
    No, my parents did not teach me. They also can speak a little Bosnian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narration View Post
    Before genealogical DNA tests, there has been a rhetoric in Turkey which says ”we are all Turkish citizens and we all came from many different lands and settled in Anatolia, mixed with each other and eventually modern Turkish ethnicity has been formed”. Such rhetoric was just an assumption and people who claim that would not guess their discourse might one day be proven wrong. Genealogical DNA tests disproved their claim.

    Instead of writing false scenarios, the following should have been said. ”There are lots of people with different ethnic backgrounds in Turkey and we shall not do any ethnic segregation between our compatriots.”
    DNA tests did not disprove it. I can find a lot of Turks who are genetically closest to other ethnicities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reboun View Post
    A Ukrainian who plot closest to Swedish average doesn't mean that person is ethnically Swedish. He or she is still ethnically Ukrainian.

    In my opinion, people who took ethnicity DNA tests take those results too seriously. I have even seen people who changed their ethnic identification as they saw the results, which is really ridiculous.
    Ethnicity is a social construct and is self-declared.
    Genealogy testing is a scientific tool that can help you find out what the people you match the most from a biological standpoint have declared as their ethnicity.
    The two won't necessarily match.
    Case A : Mixed people / mixed ethnic groups (you qualify here). A more in depth analysis is necessary to isolate the different gene pools that make up your ancestry.
    Case B : Unmixed regional groups
    Case C : Displaced populations (you qualify here too)

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    We need to differentiate between Turkophonic people and people with Turkic ancestry. Most of the "Turk" population in Kosovo consists of Turkophonic people who, after 1912, chose an Ottoman identification rather than an Albanian one. Most Turks in Kosovo have Albanian tribal surnames that were simply Turkified.
    Examples include Thaqi to Taç, Bytyqi to Bütüç, Mazreku to Mazrek, and Krasniqi to Krasniç. For example, among members of KDTP, the biggest Turkish political party in Kosovo, about 90 percent of their members are Albanians who have used Turkish orthography to write their names. I have seen two Prizren "Turk" DNA tests, and both showed 0 percent Turkic ancestry.


    Secondly, I do not know about Bosniaks in Turkey, but Albanians, from what I have seen, are very proud of being both Albanian and Turkish. You will see the Albanian flag or eagle everywhere inside their communities. I have distant family members in Turkey, and they speak Albanian. Not all of them, but most do.

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