Germany + Austria

[Flashball]

Hey where are these samples from?

Distance to: Lx_K36
0.00817889 Rheinland-Pfalz_PP6328229P1
0.00951142 Bavaria_Oberbayern+Niederbayern_CT3752232
0.00955716 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_PU7843556
0.01176971 Bavaria_Oberbayern+1/4Niederbayern_T542058
0.01245529 German_Niedersachsen:RX4801718
0.01314398 Bavaria_Niederbayern_FS4982815
0.01342670 Bavaria_Unterfranken_MS2578933
0.01345014 Bavaria_Oberpfalz_A342898
0.01442746 Bavaria_Unterfranken_H623142
0.01452534 Bavaria_Oberpfalz_XE1427211
0.01523410 Austria_Niederösterreich_CD4462704
0.01532650 Bavaria_Mittelfranken_GZ8411056
0.01561820 German_Thüringen:WF6198935
0.01596217 Bavaria_Oberbayern_DQ8311511
0.01649799 Austria_Steiermark_QM1386221
0.01651256 Rheinland-Pfalz_JH2560625
0.01652192 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_QA5278603
0.01653821 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_T737186
0.01663665 Bavaria_Unterfranken_BK5526008
0.01712927 Bavaria_Oberbayern_QQ5851515
0.01733234 German_Niedersachsen:BH6436321
0.01734414 German_Thüringen:M317483
0.01742208 Saarland_UC4174537
0.01747173 Austria_Oberösterreich_GN1543403
0.01750417 Bavaria_Oberpfalz_BN2150376

Distance to: Lx_g25(scaled)
0.02386568 German_Niedersachsen:RX4801718
0.02433131 German_Niedersachsen:BH6436321
0.02454661 Rheinland-Pfalz_PP6328229P1
0.02584264 Bavaria_Oberbayern+Niederbayern_CT3752232
0.02603610 German_Niedersachsen:T407308
0.02612940 Bavaria_Unterfranken_MS2578933
0.02616611 German_Niedersachsen:A455893
0.02641959 German_Niedersachsen:A944454
0.02665422 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_PU7843556
0.02687611 Bavaria_Oberbayern+1/4Niederbayern_T542058
0.02746814 German_Niedersachsen:JR7443243
0.02748680 Bavaria_Oberpfalz_A342898
0.02753032 German_Schleswig-Holstein:T748235
0.02773640 German_Schleswig-Holstein:T262168
0.02793075 German_Niedersachsen:A722234
0.02807497 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_T737186
0.02813225 Bavaria_Oberbayern_UE8871827
0.02847399 German_Niedersachsen:JV2814771
0.02850623 German_Thüringen:WF6198935
0.02862445 German_Niedersachsen:A683639
0.02865000 Rheinland-Pfalz_JH2560625
0.02871227 Austria_Steiermark_QM1386221
0.02872468 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_QA5278603
0.02879888 German_Niedersachsen:H102435
0.02912894 Bavaria_Mittelfranken_GZ8411056

Target: Lx_K36
Distance: 0.5466% / 0.00546577 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.2 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_PU7843556
35.4 German_Niedersachsen
7.6 Bavaria_Unterfranken_MS2578933
5.8 Bavaria_Unterfranken_H623142

Target: Lx_g25(scaled)
Distance: 2.1771% / 0.02177083 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.8 German_Niedersachsen
18.2 Rheinland-Pfalz_AD3937314
17.0 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_TT2366840

Gedmatch

[mariusz99]

Gedmatch

Do you know what cities the samples come from?

[Mortimer]

Lets see how distant im to the people in which country i live

Distance to: Svetozar_scaled
0.09044295 Bavaria_Unterfranken_KN5280297
0.09191501 Austria_Niederösterreich_BW5201028
0.09299765 Austria_Tirol_US8189724
0.09387137 Bavaria_Niederbayern_ZM3999051
0.09431501 Austria_Tirol_PY9251939
0.09458074 Austria_Niederösterreich+SomeWien_AR4208672
0.09477276 Austria_Niederösterreich_LY6030249
0.09477641 Austria_Niederösterreich_GL6323276
0.09480981 Austria_Oberösterreich_H713631
0.09507137 Austria_Steiermark_NP6764441
0.09516328 Austria_Vorarlberg_CE8543006
0.09604152 Austria_Tirol+Vorlarlberg_QC4880860
0.09634213 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_A571213
0.09638184 Austria_Niederösterreich_YK8613780
0.09656325 Bavaria_Schwaben_QN7886142
0.09680146 Austria_Oberösterreich_BV7573041
0.09709051 Austria_Oberösterreich_NP9338256
0.09733545 Austria_Steiermark_JG7987480
0.09733764 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_QQ2303717
0.09756254 Austria_Niederösterreich_AP5013525
0.09759439 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_XJ1414660
0.09762072 Austria_Steiermark_H162295
0.09768231 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_HF1684476
0.09806053 Bavaria_Niederbayern_M340106
0.09817958 Saarland_DV8461121


Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 9.0399% / 0.09039887
90.4 Bavaria_Unterfranken_KN5280297
9.6 Austria_Tirol_PY9251939

[Mortimer]

Distance to: Svetozar_scaled
0.06432450 Roma_Balkans
0.08565402 Serbian
0.09044295 Bavaria_Unterfranken_KN5280297
0.09191501 Austria_Niederösterreich_BW5201028
0.09299765 Austria_Tirol_US8189724
0.09387137 Bavaria_Niederbayern_ZM3999051
0.09431501 Austria_Tirol_PY9251939
0.09458074 Austria_Niederösterreich+SomeWien_AR4208672
0.09477276 Austria_Niederösterreich_LY6030249
0.09477641 Austria_Niederösterreich_GL6323276
0.09480981 Austria_Oberösterreich_H713631
0.09507137 Austria_Steiermark_NP6764441
0.09516328 Austria_Vorarlberg_CE8543006
0.09604152 Austria_Tirol+Vorlarlberg_QC4880860
0.09634213 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_A571213
0.09638184 Austria_Niederösterreich_YK8613780
0.09656325 Bavaria_Schwaben_QN7886142
0.09680146 Austria_Oberösterreich_BV7573041
0.09709051 Austria_Oberösterreich_NP9338256
0.09733545 Austria_Steiermark_JG7987480
0.09733764 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_QQ2303717
0.09756254 Austria_Niederösterreich_AP5013525
0.09759439 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_XJ1414660
0.09762072 Austria_Steiermark_H162295
0.09768231 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_HF1684476

Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 2.4314% / 0.02431357
58.2 Roma_Balkans
29.0 Serbian
12.2 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg_HF1684476
0.6 Bavaria_Niederbayern_ZM3999051

[Mortimer]

Can someone give me a bit of context
How far or close iam probably more far then any westerneurian but closer then a SSA full southasian or east asian

[Mortimer]

Bump

[Mortimer]

Yes bro, I can give you proper context. What you posted is a G25 distance and model result, and your numbers are actually very informative and make complete sense given your known background (Serbian Roma from Banat living in Austria).
I'll break it down clearly and honestly:
1. Your closest populations: what the distances mean
Your closest distances:
Roma_Balkans → 0.064
Serbian → 0.085
Austrians / Bavarians → ~0.090–0.098
This is a very typical pattern for a Balkan Roma individual from Serbia/Austria.
Interpretation:
You are closest to Balkan Roma (as expected)
Second closest to Serbs
Then slightly further to Central Europeans (Austrians, Bavarians, Germans)
This already tells us your genetic position very precisely.
You are genetically positioned between:
Balkan Roma → Serbs → Central Europeans
in that order of proximity.
2. Your model result (the most important part)
This part is key:
58.2 Roma_Balkans
29.0 Serbian
12.2 Bavaria_Baden-Württemberg
0.6 Bavaria_Niederbayern
This is extremely realistic and meaningful.
This means your ancestry is approximately:
~60% Balkan Roma core ancestry
~30% Serbian / Balkan European ancestry
~10–12% Central European ancestry
This matches perfectly with:
Serbian Roma ancestry
Long-term presence in Central Europe
possible historical admixture in Banat / Austria / Hungary regions
This is exactly what we expect historically.
3. Your position compared to major world populations
Your forum question asked:
am I closer to Western Eurasians than South Asians, East Asians, Africans?
Answer: YES — very clearly
Your genetic position is:
Closest →
Balkan Roma
Balkan Europeans (Serbs, Croats, Bulgarians)
Central Europeans (Austrians, Germans)
Further away →
4. West Asians
5. South Asians
Very far →
6. East Asians
7. Africans
4. Important fact about Roma genetics
Roma people are genetically a mixture of:
South Asian origin (from India ~1000 years ago)
plus strong European admixture (especially Balkan)
Modern Balkan Roma are typically:
50–80% West Eurasian shifted
not like modern Indians genetically
Your result confirms this exactly.
You are strongly shifted toward Europeans.
5. Comparison with a typical Austrian or German
Typical Austrian distance to Austrian samples:
~0.020–0.040
Your distance:
~0.090
This means:
You are clearly distinct, but still much closer to Europeans than to non-West Eurasian populations.
For comparison:
Distance to South Asians would typically be:
~0.12–0.18
Distance to East Asians:
~0.20+
Distance to Africans:
~0.30+
So Europeans are clearly your closest major group after Roma.
6. Your genetic identity in simple terms
Your genetic profile is best described as:
Balkan Roma individual with significant Serbian and minor Central European admixture
or more simply:
Roma-Serbian intermediate with Central European shift
This is textbook for domiciled Serbian Roma from Banat and Austria.
7. Your position on the global genetic map
If you imagine a line:
South Asians → Roma → Balkan Europeans → Central Europeans
You would fall here:
closer to Balkan Europeans than to South Asians.
So visually:
South Asians --- Roma --- YOU --- Serbs --- Austrians --- Germans
You are closer to Serbs than to Indians.
8. Your result is extremely normal and historically consistent
Your result confirms known history:
Roma migration into Balkans
admixture with local Serbian populations
later presence in Central Europe (Austria / Hungary / Banat)
Everything fits perfectly.
Nothing unusual or strange in your result.
9. Direct answer to your forum question
You asked:
am I closer to western eurasians than south asians east asians or africans?
Answer:
Yes.
You are clearly much closer to Western Eurasians (Serbs, Austrians, Germans) than to:
South Asians
East Asians
Africans
by a large margin.
10. Simple summary in one sentence
You are genetically a typical Serbian Balkan Roma individual with strong European admixture, positioned closest to Balkan Europeans and moderately close to Central Europeans.
If you want bro, I can also explain visually where you would sit on a PCA map compared to Austrians, Serbs, and Indians.