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    Default How Uralic are Hungarians and who are they closest to?

    I checked the Top 10 closest Non-Hungarian populations to each region of Hungary:

    Distance to: Europe_HU_Central-Hungary
    3.27146756 Europe_SVN_Slovenia:Avg
    4.30695948 Europe_SVN_Central-Slovenia
    4.54319271 Europe_HR_Croatia-Zagreb
    4.84617375 Europe_SVN_Ravne-na-Koroskem
    4.93406769 Europe_SVN_Murska-Sobota
    5.58624203 Europe_BIH_West-Herzegovina:Croats
    5.76573499 Europe_CZ_Moravia
    5.78873907 Europe_CZ_Czechia:Avg
    6.12583056 Europe_SK_Slovakia-Trnava
    6.15729648 Europe_BIH_Zenica-Doboj:Croats

    Distance to: Europe_HU_Hungary-Csango
    5.87957481 Europe_MD_Moldova-Central
    6.31274900 Europe_SRB_Serbia:Avg
    6.41760859 Europe_MD_Moldova-Balti
    6.78395902 Europe_SRB_Novi-Sad
    7.13600028 Europe_SRB_Kragujevac
    7.33225750 Europe_SRB_Zapadna-Srbija
    7.45069124 Europe_BIH_West-Herzegovina:Croats
    7.45198631 Europe_RO_Romania-Nord-Est-Iasi
    7.60552431 Europe_BIH_Zenica-Doboj:Croats
    7.87649668 Europe_RO_Romania-Maramures

    Distance to: Europe_HU_Hungary-Szekely
    5.71443786 Europe_HR_Croatia-Zagreb
    6.13419921 Europe_MD_Moldova-Balti
    6.19222900 Europe_RO_Romania-Maramures
    6.32325075 Europe_BIH_Zenica-Doboj:Croats
    6.32793015 Europe_BIH_West-Herzegovina:Croats
    6.69037368 Europe_SVN_Slovenia:Avg
    6.79579282 Europe_HR_Lika-Senj:Croats
    6.79705113 Europe_SVN_Murska-Sobota
    6.97010043 Europe_MD_Moldova-Central
    7.00694655 Europe_AT_Burgenland

    Distance to: Europe_HU_Hungary:Transylvania
    5.09166967 Europe_MD_Moldova-Balti
    5.89013582 Europe_HR_Croatia-Zagreb
    6.04789219 Europe_BIH_Zenica-Doboj:Croats
    6.21819910 Europe_BIH_Herzeg-Bosnia:Tropolje
    6.30173786 Europe_HR_Split-Dalmatia
    6.30851805 Europe_BIH_West-Herzegovina:Croats
    6.41569949 Europe_RO_Romania-Maramures
    6.59251090 Europe_MD_Moldova-Central
    6.73676480 Europe_MD_Moldova-North
    6.98420361 Europe_HR_Lika-Senj:Croats

    Distance to: Europe_HU_North-Great-Plain
    3.91976071 Europe_SVN_Murska-Sobota
    4.22819110 Europe_SVN_Slovenia:Avg
    4.82504922 Europe_HR_Croatia-Zagreb
    4.95198950 Europe_BIH_West-Herzegovina:Croats
    5.35342881 Europe_SVN_Central-Slovenia
    5.42580870 Europe_SVN_Novo-Mesto
    5.46219736 Europe_CZ_Moravia
    5.47038390 Europe_MD_Moldova-Balti
    5.51363764 Europe_SK_Slovakia:Avg
    5.59656144 Europe_SK_Slovakia-Trnava

    Distance to: Europe_HU_North-Hungary
    3.28064018 Europe_CZ_Czechia:Avg
    3.41877171 Europe_CZ_Moravia
    3.70037836 Europe_SK_Bratislava
    4.04998765 Europe_CZ_Bohemia
    4.56806305 Europe_SVN_Slovenia:Avg
    4.72579094 Europe_SK_Slovakia-Trnava
    5.22485406 Europe_SK_Slovakia-Presov
    5.36680538 Europe_SK_Slovakia:Avg
    5.48537146 Europe_SVN_Ravne-na-Koroskem
    6.20675793 Europe_SVN_Murska-Sobota

    Distance to: Europe_HU_South-Great-Plain
    3.88768569 Europe_SVN_Slovenia:Avg
    4.38371988 Europe_HR_Croatia-Zagreb
    4.83401117 Europe_SVN_Murska-Sobota
    5.04836607 Europe_SVN_Ravne-na-Koroskem
    5.31585365 Europe_SVN_Central-Slovenia
    5.43300101 Europe_BIH_West-Herzegovina:Croats
    5.82328086 Europe_HR_Croatia:Avg
    6.20580374 Europe_SK_Slovakia-Trnava
    6.25506994 Europe_CZ_Bohemia
    6.35193671 Europe_CZ_Czechia:Avg

    Distance to: Europe_HU_Transdanubia:South
    4.91744853 Europe_SVN_Slovenia:Avg
    5.20126908 Europe_AT_Austria:Avg
    5.34192849 Europe_HR_Croatia-Zagreb
    5.66540237 Europe_SVN_Murska-Sobota
    5.93251212 Europe_AT_Burgenland
    6.07118605 Europe_SVN_Central-Slovenia
    6.26924238 Europe_HR_Croatia:Avg
    6.43082421 Europe_BIH_West-Herzegovina:Croats
    6.45218568 Europe_BIH_Zenica-Doboj:Croats
    6.80671727 Europe_HR_Lika-Senj:Croats

    Distance to: Europe_HU_Transdanubia:WestCenter
    4.54373195 Europe_SVN_Slovenia:Avg
    4.89039876 Europe_AT_Austria:Avg
    4.93966598 Europe_AT_Burgenland
    5.39418205 Europe_SVN_Ravne-na-Koroskem
    5.65027433 Europe_HR_Croatia-Zagreb
    6.27494223 Europe_SVN_Central-Slovenia
    6.67178117 Europe_SVN_Murska-Sobota
    7.13082744 Europe_BIH_West-Herzegovina:Croats
    7.21403493 Europe_BIH_Zenica-Doboj:Croats
    7.40584229 Europe_CZ_Bohemia

    Distance to: Europe_HU_Hungary:Avg
    3.56571171 Europe_HR_Croatia-Zagreb
    3.56922961 Europe_SVN_Slovenia:Avg
    4.96182426 Europe_SVN_Ravne-na-Koroskem
    5.44192980 Europe_CZ_Czechia:Avg
    5.49044625 Europe_SVN_Central-Slovenia
    5.63579631 Europe_BIH_West-Herzegovina:Croats
    5.85425008 Europe_SVN_Murska-Sobota
    5.93845098 Europe_CZ_Bohemia
    6.22472489 Europe_CZ_Moravia
    6.28378071 Europe_AT_Austria:Avg

    Now mixed mode models of ancestry modelling Hungarians as a mixture of their neighbours (I used Croatia, Slovenia, Austria, Slovakia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia) and populations from Russia, I used the Reduce to 5 Populations (R5P) option:

    Target: Europe_HU_Hungary-Szekely
    Distance: 2.26093945 | R5P
    30.4% Europe_RO_Timisoara
    26.6% Europe_AT_Oberosterreich
    26.4% Europe_SVN_Slovenia
    10.8% Europe_UA_Chernivtsi-Oblast
    5.8% Russia_RUS_Udmurtia

    Target: Europe_HU_Hungary-Csango
    Distance: 3.55915644 | R5P
    34.2% Europe_RO_Romania-Nord-Vest-Oradea
    32.2% Europe_SK_Central-Slovakia
    15.4% Europe_RO_Romania-Muntenia
    12.6% Europe_RO_Romania-Crisana
    5.6% Russia_RUS_Mari-El

    Target: Europe_HU_Hungary:Transylvania
    Distance: 3.58014803 | R5P
    33.8% Europe_AT_Steiermark
    30.0% Europe_HR_Dalmatia-Knin
    19.8% Europe_HR_Vis-Island
    12.6% Europe_UA_Chernivtsi-Oblast
    3.8% Russia_RUS_Mari-El

    Target: Europe_HU_Transdanubia:South
    Distance: 1.10806225 | R5P
    40.0% Europe_SK_Central-Slovakia
    29.0% Europe_AT_Tyrol
    16.2% Europe_SVN_Central-Slovenia
    12.0% Europe_HR_Split-Dalmatia
    2.8% Russia_RUS_Mari-El

    Target: Europe_HU_South-Great-Plain
    Distance: 1.74172995 | R5P
    36.2% Europe_SVN_Slovenia
    22.2% Europe_RO_Romania-Nord-Est-Iasi
    19.8% Europe_SK_Slovakia-Presov
    19.4% Europe_AT_Austria
    2.4% Russia_RUS_Mari-El

    Target: Europe_HU_Transdanubia:WestCenter
    Distance: 2.29516829 | R5P
    52.6 Europe_SVN_Slovenia
    26.2 Europe_AT_Burgenland
    11.8 Europe_AT_Oberosterreich
    5.2 Europe_RO_Romania-Nord-Est-Iasi
    4.2 Russia_RUS_Ural-Tatar

    Target: Europe_HU_Central-Hungary
    Distance: 0.99349730 | R5P
    29.6% Europe_SK_Zemplin-Rusyns
    26.2% Europe_SVN_Slovenia
    21.6% Europe_RO_Romania-Nord-Est-Iasi
    17.2% Europe_AT_Tyrol
    5.4% Russia_RUS_Tatarstan-Volga-Tatar

    Target: Europe_HU_North-Great-Plain
    Distance: 0.93594531 | R5P
    33.0% Europe_SVN_Slovenia
    32.4% Europe_UA_Vinnytsia-Oblast
    22.6% Europe_SRB_Serbia-Nis
    9.2% Europe_AT_Upper-Austria-Salzburg
    2.8% Russia_RUS_Chuvashia

    Target: Europe_HU_North-Hungary
    Distance: 1.70754718 | R5P
    34.8% Europe_SK_Slovakia-Presov
    28.8% Europe_UA_Chernihiv-Oblast
    13.6% Europe_AT_Burgenland
    11.6% Europe_AT_Vorlarlberg
    11.2% Europe_AT_Tyrol
    Last edited by Peterski; 02-13-2026 at 09:30 PM.
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    So Hungarians from every region have just several percent of Uralic ancestry.
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    Nice work. These results seem to be as expected. Is this Eurogenes K36 based?

    Edit: I'm guessing it's not K36 as the distances are low.

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    It is based on the reference populations from my DNA Origin analysis (see my signature).

    It is interesting that most Hungarians are closer to Slovenes and Croats than to Slovaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    It is based on the reference populations from my DNA Origin analysis (see my signature).

    It is interesting that most Hungarians are closer to Slovenes and Croats than to Slovaks.
    Yup, imo the extra German admix gets Hungarians closer to Slovenes, while the extra Southern admix gets them closer to Croats (on a PCA).

    However, if we go by IBD analysis, I suspect Hungarians have a closer relationship to Slovaks. I myself have Slovak Genetic Groups on both 23andMe and AncestryDNA.

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