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    My G25 Distance scale. I'm closest to Thierry Henry(Afro Caribbean with European ancestry)

    Distance to: AUMMZI_scaled
    0.12437319 Thierry_Henry
    0.17096073 George_Weah
    0.18034310 Samuel_Eto’o
    0.18811394 Pelé
    0.35526722 Roberto_Carlos
    0.49425649 Zinédine_Zidane
    0.55938414 Luís_Figo
    0.57343642 Diego_Maradona
    0.58027872 Xavi_Hernández
    0.58656700 Dimitar_Berbatov
    0.58813138 Roberto_Baggio
    0.58875416 Rogério_Ceni
    0.59025531 Eric_Cantona
    0.59049717 Lev_Yashin
    0.59524136 Paul_Scholes
    0.59530493 George_Best
    0.59530816 Davor_Šuker
    0.59623010 Yari_Litmanen
    0.59697593 Marco_van_Basten
    0.59719402 Franz_Beckenbauer
    0.59855052 Lothar_Matthäus
    0.59876123 Xabi_Alonso
    0.59889142 Michael_Laudrup
    0.60150692 Dennis_Bergkamp
    0.60404856 Grzegorz_Lato

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    No Messi or Ronaldo?

    Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    0.02414948 George_Best
    0.02521093 Marco_van_Basten
    0.02783398 Paul_Scholes
    0.02974744 Lothar_Matthäus
    0.03160766 Dennis_Bergkamp
    0.03332886 Michael_Laudrup
    0.03482839 Franz_Beckenbauer
    0.04801321 Rogério_Ceni
    0.06008163 Davor_Šuker
    0.06198917 Xabi_Alonso
    0.06301984 Xavi_Hernández
    0.07492460 Roberto_Baggio
    0.07708423 Grzegorz_Lato
    0.08054809 Eric_Cantona
    0.08563981 Dimitar_Berbatov
    0.08578910 Luís_Figo
    0.09494337 Lev_Yashin
    0.09505094 Yari_Litmanen
    0.17620287 Zinédine_Zidane
    0.20879487 Diego_Maradona
    0.36825773 Roberto_Carlos
    0.54410968 Pelé
    0.54984565 Thierry_Henry
    0.76295770 George_Weah
    0.77048426 Samuel_Eto’o

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01914839 | R4P
    73.7 Paul_Scholes
    13.8 Xabi_Alonso
    10.6 Roberto_Baggio
    1.9 Diego_Maradona

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.0207% / 0.02068240 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    42.6 Paul_Scholes
    32.2 George_Best
    25.2 Rogério_Ceni

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01914839 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    73.7 Paul_Scholes
    13.8 Xabi_Alonso
    10.6 Roberto_Baggio
    1.9 Diego_Maradona

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    Which is suposedly the ancestry of Rogerio Ceni?

    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 0.0161% / 0.01605760 | ADC: 0.25x

    63.9 Xavi_Hernández
    26.6 Xabi_Alonso
    9.5 Rogério_Ceni


    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.01645306 22.00% Xabi_Alonso + 78.00% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01825650 2.40% George_Best + 97.60% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01829642 2.80% Lothar_Matthäus + 97.20% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01834018 1.60% Dennis_Bergkamp + 98.40% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01839522 1.40% Paul_Scholes + 98.60% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01842617 2.00% Franz_Beckenbauer + 98.00% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01843255 1.20% Michael_Laudrup + 98.80% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01843887 1.40% Marco_van_Basten + 98.60% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01861554 0.60% Rogério_Ceni + 99.40% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01885104 32.80% Luís_Figo + 67.20% Xabi_Alonso


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    Target: Defcon2_scaled
    Distance: 0.0295% / 0.02950255 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    72.6 Xavi_Hernández
    25.2 Luís_Figo
    2.2 Pelé

    Distance to: Defcon2_scaled
    0.03449498 Xavi_Hernández
    0.03534971 Luís_Figo
    0.04335439 Eric_Cantona
    0.04866369 Rogério_Ceni
    0.05162913 Roberto_Baggio
    0.05489324 Xabi_Alonso
    0.07067332 Dimitar_Berbatov
    0.07257973 Franz_Beckenbauer
    0.07633405 Lothar_Matthäus
    0.08428422 Marco_van_Basten
    0.08506488 George_Best
    0.09285679 Paul_Scholes
    0.09453843 Michael_Laudrup
    0.09499249 Davor_Šuker
    0.09742619 Dennis_Bergkamp
    0.11976357 Zinédine_Zidane
    0.12362567 Grzegorz_Lato
    0.13080866 Lev_Yashin
    0.14121000 Yari_Litmanen
    0.20621769 Diego_Maradona
    0.34807753 Roberto_Carlos
    0.51838375 Pelé
    0.52244171 Thierry_Henry
    0.73241037 George_Weah
    0.73979352 Samuel_Eto’o
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    Target: Dardanos_scaled
    Distance: 0.0254% / 0.02544084
    81.8 Dimitar_Berbatov
    10.8 Eric_Cantona
    3.9 Grzegorz_Lato
    3.5 Lev_Yashin

    Distance to: Dardanos_scaled
    0.02711628 Dimitar_Berbatov
    0.03775635 Roberto_Baggio
    0.04996991 Rogério_Ceni
    0.05808457 Eric_Cantona
    0.06217567 Xavi_Hernández
    0.06415042 Franz_Beckenbauer
    0.06705886 Luís_Figo
    0.07024939 Lothar_Matthäus
    0.07209244 Davor_Šuker
    0.08242355 Xabi_Alonso
    0.08380199 Marco_van_Basten
    0.09265946 Michael_Laudrup
    0.09298237 George_Best
    0.09699444 Dennis_Bergkamp
    0.09844051 Paul_Scholes
    0.10324547 Grzegorz_Lato
    0.11007455 Lev_Yashin
    0.13486179 Yari_Litmanen
    0.14755298 Zinédine_Zidane
    0.21011284 Diego_Maradona
    0.37000627 Roberto_Carlos
    0.54392231 Pelé
    0.54869619 Thierry_Henry
    0.75883060 George_Weah
    0.76609625 Samuel_Eto’o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannicus View Post
    No Messi or Ronaldo?

    Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    0.02414948 George_Best
    0.02521093 Marco_van_Basten
    0.02783398 Paul_Scholes
    0.02974744 Lothar_Matthäus
    0.03160766 Dennis_Bergkamp
    0.03332886 Michael_Laudrup
    0.03482839 Franz_Beckenbauer
    0.04801321 Rogério_Ceni
    0.06008163 Davor_Šuker
    0.06198917 Xabi_Alonso
    0.06301984 Xavi_Hernández
    0.07492460 Roberto_Baggio
    0.07708423 Grzegorz_Lato
    0.08054809 Eric_Cantona
    0.08563981 Dimitar_Berbatov
    0.08578910 Luís_Figo
    0.09494337 Lev_Yashin
    0.09505094 Yari_Litmanen
    0.17620287 Zinédine_Zidane
    0.20879487 Diego_Maradona
    0.36825773 Roberto_Carlos
    0.54410968 Pelé
    0.54984565 Thierry_Henry
    0.76295770 George_Weah
    0.77048426 Samuel_Eto’o

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01914839 | R4P
    73.7 Paul_Scholes
    13.8 Xabi_Alonso
    10.6 Roberto_Baggio
    1.9 Diego_Maradona

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.0207% / 0.02068240 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    42.6 Paul_Scholes
    32.2 George_Best
    25.2 Rogério_Ceni

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01914839 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    73.7 Paul_Scholes
    13.8 Xabi_Alonso
    10.6 Roberto_Baggio
    1.9 Diego_Maradona
    Overhyped haha^^ Just retired legends ;-) Also i could not find Madeira samples. + I also wanted a few “real” South Americans. I don't think Messi has much indigenous ancestry, maybe 5% at most. He would cluster too closely with the other Med mixes. Thats why i favored Maradona over Messi. The idea was to give a relatively wide spread and also honor some of my favorite players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Which is suposedly the ancestry of Rogerio Ceni?

    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 0.0161% / 0.01605760 | ADC: 0.25x

    63.9 Xavi_Hernández
    26.6 Xabi_Alonso
    9.5 Rogério_Ceni


    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.01645306 22.00% Xabi_Alonso + 78.00% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01825650 2.40% George_Best + 97.60% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01829642 2.80% Lothar_Matthäus + 97.20% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01834018 1.60% Dennis_Bergkamp + 98.40% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01839522 1.40% Paul_Scholes + 98.60% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01842617 2.00% Franz_Beckenbauer + 98.00% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01843255 1.20% Michael_Laudrup + 98.80% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01843887 1.40% Marco_van_Basten + 98.60% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01861554 0.60% Rogério_Ceni + 99.40% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01885104 32.80% Luís_Figo + 67.20% Xabi_Alonso
    Ceni emphasizes his German and Italian ancestry (50/50). However, I also assumed ~5% extra Portuguese and 1-2% Basque & Galician ancestry. The rest of my model is 50/50:

    IT: Northern and North Eastern Italy
    Ger: Mostly Palatine and Saarland, Tiny bits of Brandenburg (name "Mücke") and a little Swiss German.

    btw: i added him because he is the favorite Player of a Brazillian friend^^ São Paulo Legend.
    Last edited by leachim_x; 02-18-2026 at 08:23 PM.

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    Makes sense. Scholes really was my favourite player too. Bergkamp the non-Flying Dutchman was all-class even though I disliked him at the time.

    Distance to: Creoda_scaled
    0.01808116 Paul_Scholes
    0.02281475 Dennis_Bergkamp
    0.02333396 George_Best
    0.02436191 Marco_van_Basten
    0.02506334 Michael_Laudrup
    0.03676687 Lothar_Matthäus
    0.04261168 Franz_Beckenbauer
    0.05582907 Davor_Šuker
    0.06375505 Grzegorz_Lato
    0.06399850 Rogério_Ceni
    0.07811295 Xabi_Alonso
    0.08060854 Xavi_Hernández
    0.08062300 Yari_Litmanen
    0.08369812 Lev_Yashin
    0.09298403 Roberto_Baggio
    0.09934021 Eric_Cantona
    0.09988091 Dimitar_Berbatov
    0.10325852 Luís_Figo
    0.19162942 Zinédine_Zidane
    0.21841497 Diego_Maradona
    0.37244835 Roberto_Carlos
    0.54546447 Pelé
    0.55151722 Thierry_Henry
    0.76347744 George_Weah
    0.77057045 Samuel_Eto’o

    Distance to: Creoda_scaled
    0.01797319 3.20% Grzegorz_Lato + 96.80% Paul_Scholes
    0.01800265 98.00% Paul_Scholes + 2.00% Yari_Litmanen
    0.01802775 2.60% Davor_Šuker + 97.40% Paul_Scholes
    0.01803475 1.60% Lev_Yashin + 98.40% Paul_Scholes
    0.01805600 5.20% Michael_Laudrup + 94.80% Paul_Scholes
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Which is suposedly the ancestry of Rogerio Ceni?

    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 0.0161% / 0.01605760 | ADC: 0.25x

    63.9 Xavi_Hernández
    26.6 Xabi_Alonso
    9.5 Rogério_Ceni


    Distance to: gixajo_scaled
    0.01645306 22.00% Xabi_Alonso + 78.00% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01825650 2.40% George_Best + 97.60% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01829642 2.80% Lothar_Matthäus + 97.20% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01834018 1.60% Dennis_Bergkamp + 98.40% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01839522 1.40% Paul_Scholes + 98.60% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01842617 2.00% Franz_Beckenbauer + 98.00% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01843255 1.20% Michael_Laudrup + 98.80% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01843887 1.40% Marco_van_Basten + 98.60% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01861554 0.60% Rogério_Ceni + 99.40% Xavi_Hernández
    0.01885104 32.80% Luís_Figo + 67.20% Xabi_Alonso
    I knew you were a fake Andalusian you non-blonde bald swarthy imposter. You are a Catalan pretending to be an Andalusian.

    Gallop can relax now that the truth has been revealed in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leachim_x View Post
    Based on known/assumed ancestry.
    -I mainly used modern samples.
    -When modern samples were not available, I worked carefully with proxy samples and/or included ancient samples.
    -Otherwise, I assumed the basic ethnicity and made some (mostly minimal) adjustments. If I felt they needed a little extra shift or diverged somewhat phenotypically, I gave them a small extra portion of another ethnicity.
    Thanks for explanation.

    I might create some Turkish footballer coordinates, when I get to my PC.

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