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    Default Latino & Caribbean Whites K15

    Compare yourself with White Latin American & White Caribbean populations in Eurogenes K15:

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    Use Vahaduo - https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

    Use this tool to generate simulated G25 coordinates from K15:

    https://allelocator.ovh/simulatedg25.html

    I used only people who are over 90% Caucasian genetically and at least 5 samples per country.
    This is why for many countries there are no averages because there were fewer than 5 samples.
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    Distances when using the official datasheet from GEDmatch:

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    Distance to:	Argentina_White(n=502)
    4.48294546	North_Italian
    8.29666801	Tuscan
    9.73227620	Portuguese
    9.87144873	Spanish_Extremadura
    10.34453479	Spanish_Murcia
    10.76724663	Spanish_Galicia
    11.17357597	Spanish_Cataluna
    11.33315931	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    12.02631282	Spanish_Andalucia
    12.75918493	Spanish_Valencia
    
    
    Distance to:	Brazil_White(n=616)
    5.38956399	Portuguese
    6.25909738	Spanish_Extremadura
    6.37441762	Spanish_Galicia
    6.87835736	Spanish_Murcia
    6.91340726	Spanish_Cataluna
    7.11267179	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    7.23584135	North_Italian
    9.75786862	Spanish_Valencia
    9.87666948	Spanish_Andalucia
    10.59936791	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    
    
    Distance to:	Chile_White(n=24)
    4.74097036	Spanish_Cataluna
    5.47303389	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    5.87489574	Portuguese
    6.46261557	Spanish_Murcia
    6.63258622	Spanish_Galicia
    6.67104939	Spanish_Extremadura
    8.24929088	Spanish_Cantabria
    8.53916858	Spanish_Valencia
    8.74723385	French
    9.02145221	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    
    
    Distance to:	Colombia_White(n=10)
    7.17055089	North_Italian
    8.30418569	Spanish_Extremadura
    8.77635460	Spanish_Murcia
    9.38173758	Portuguese
    10.05608274	Spanish_Andalucia
    10.55704030	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    10.91483394	Spanish_Cataluna
    11.06395951	Spanish_Valencia
    11.09454821	Spanish_Galicia
    11.11430160	Tuscan
    
    
    Distance to:	Cuba_White(n=247)
    3.42883362	Spanish_Extremadura
    3.62621014	Portuguese
    4.02000000	Spanish_Murcia
    4.99942997	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    5.75320780	Spanish_Cataluna
    5.84641771	Spanish_Galicia
    7.41977089	Spanish_Valencia
    7.42701824	Spanish_Andalucia
    7.84871964	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    8.53338151	Spanish_Cantabria
    
    
    Distance to:	Mexico_White(n=11)
    7.35747239	Spanish_Extremadura
    7.58154997	Spanish_Murcia
    8.20321279	Portuguese
    8.63740702	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    8.85259849	Spanish_Cataluna
    9.40632234	North_Italian
    9.45703442	Spanish_Valencia
    9.47142545	Spanish_Andalucia
    9.82401649	Spanish_Galicia
    10.00931067	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    
    
    Distance to:	Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
    6.61435560	Portuguese
    6.92925681	Spanish_Extremadura
    7.49312351	Spanish_Murcia
    7.52304460	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    7.60604365	Spanish_Galicia
    7.74615388	Spanish_Cataluna
    7.97520533	North_Italian
    10.16922318	Spanish_Andalucia
    10.20798217	Spanish_Valencia
    10.78752520	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    
    
    Distance to:	Uruguay_White(n=109)
    5.65983215	Portuguese
    5.83066034	Spanish_Extremadura
    5.85683362	North_Italian
    6.24980800	Spanish_Murcia
    7.22738542	Spanish_Galicia
    7.29704050	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    7.39578934	Spanish_Cataluna
    9.04898337	Spanish_Andalucia
    9.33273272	Spanish_Valencia
    10.19118737	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    
    
    Distance to:	Venezuela_White(n=5)
    5.73125641	Spanish_Extremadura
    6.06603660	Spanish_Murcia
    6.23701852	North_Italian
    6.72739177	Portuguese
    7.53319321	Spanish_Andalucia
    7.97363781	Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    8.33597025	Spanish_Cataluna
    8.39176978	Spanish_Valencia
    8.86502115	Spanish_Galicia
    9.15330541	Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    
    
    Distance to:	Bahamas_White(n=5)
    3.88391555	Southwest_English
    5.26980076	Southeast_English
    6.45629925	South_Dutch
    6.88536128	North_Dutch
    6.98499105	Irish
    7.10459710	Orcadian
    7.21624556	West_Scottish
    7.25469503	Danish
    7.46125995	North_German
    7.71584733	West_German
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    I'm surprised about how white was this Puerto-Rican sample. I have guessed I would score Cuban (Cuban Whites are really whites) or Argentinian.

    Target: Fabricius_K15
    Distance: 810.4853% / 8.10485338
    63.4 Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
    29.2 Brazil_White(n=616)
    7.4 Bahamas_White(n=5)

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    Comparison between me and puertorriqueño blanco (this individual is whiter than me):

    Target: Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
    Distance: 251.1246% / 2.51124646 | R3P
    54.8 French_Provence_outlier
    41.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    3.6 Karitiana

    Target: Fabricius_K15
    Distance: 263.1903% / 2.63190308 | R3P
    64.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    27.8 Austrian
    7.8 Mandenka
    German_Kingdom-of-Prussia_(ghost),0.1345579,0.1314643,0.0715706,0.05 88402,0.0426589,0.0228925,0.0074964,0.0097798,0.00 24535,-0.0110713,-0.0053468,-0.0024884,0.0033076,0.0113027,0.0049235,0.0035482,-0.0017119,0.000753,0.0040701,0.003331,0.002137,-0.0029782,0.0030389,0.0047346,0.0012004

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    Target: Bahamas_White(n=5)
    Distance: 149.5312% / 1.49531190 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    93.2 English_Southwest
    4.0 Ossetian
    1.8 Yoruban
    1.0 Sardinian

    Target: Venezuela_White(n=5)
    Distance: 104.3974% / 1.04397363 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    36.0 Spanish_Murcia
    27.6 Spanish_Extremadura
    12.4 France_Corsica
    8.0 Italy_Liguria
    5.8 Spanish_Andalucia
    4.2 Tuscan
    3.2 Anzick-1
    2.8 Tunisian

    Target: Uruguay_White(n=109)
    Distance: 38.0648% / 0.38064795 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    34.6 French_Provence_outlier
    23.4 Spanish_Murcia
    16.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    8.0 Italy_Liguria
    5.6 Portuguese
    5.0 Tunisian
    4.4 Italy_Friuli
    2.4 Mayan

    Target: Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
    Distance: 90.2299% / 0.90229888 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.6 Italy_Piedmont
    36.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    3.6 Pima
    2.4 Bantu_N.E.
    2.4 Saudi

    Target: Mexico_White(n=11)
    Distance: 128.7552% / 1.28755173 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    38.0 Spanish_Extremadura
    21.4 Spanish_Murcia
    17.4 Spanish_Valencia
    10.4 Austrian
    7.0 Sephardic_Jewish
    5.8 Anzick-1

    Target: Cuba_White(n=247)
    Distance: 67.9472% / 0.67947178 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    47.4 Spanish_Murcia
    42.4 Portuguese
    4.2 Tunisian
    3.2 Italy_Trentino
    1.6 Mayan
    1.0 Mandenka
    0.2 Karitiana

    Target: Colombia_White(n=10)
    Distance: 159.8593% / 1.59859305 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    47.6 Spanish_Extremadura
    24.0 Spanish_Murcia
    12.6 Sephardic_Jewish
    10.8 Tuscan
    3.6 Anzick-1
    1.4 Mayan

    Target: Chile_White(n=24)
    Distance: 87.3077% / 0.87307731 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    27.4 Spanish_Murcia
    26.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    20.2 French_South
    16.0 French_Central
    5.8 Swedish_Aland
    3.2 Karitiana
    1.0 Spanish_Cataluna

    Target: Brazil_White(n=616)
    Distance: 68.5572% / 0.68557195 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    30.4 Portuguese
    24.0 Italy_Friuli
    19.0 Spanish_Murcia
    13.0 French_Provence_outlier
    5.6 Spanish_Extremadura
    4.4 Austrian
    2.0 Mayan
    0.8 Bantu_S.E.
    0.6 Bantu_N.E.
    0.2 North_Amerindian

    Target: Argentina_White(n=502)
    Distance: 55.0801% / 0.55080145 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    35.4 French_Provence_outlier
    28.0 Tuscan
    18.6 Italy_Friuli
    11.4 Spanish_Murcia
    2.2 Pima
    1.8 Spanish_Andalucia
    1.6 Spanish_Extremadura
    1.0 Ethiopian_Amhara
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    ^^^
    What if you exclude this French_Provence_outlier sample?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    ^^^
    What if you exclude this French_Provence_outlier sample?
    Seems more realistic:

    Target: Bahamas_White(n=5)
    Distance: 149.5312% / 1.49531190 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    93.2 English_Southwest
    4.0 Ossetian
    1.8 Yoruban
    1.0 Sardinian

    Target: Venezuela_White(n=5)
    Distance: 104.3974% / 1.04397363 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    36.0 Spanish_Murcia
    27.6 Spanish_Extremadura
    12.4 France_Corsica
    8.0 Italy_Liguria
    5.8 Spanish_Andalucia
    4.2 Tuscan
    3.2 Anzick-1
    2.8 Tunisian

    Target: Uruguay_White(n=109)
    Distance: 53.1707% / 0.53170748 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    38.6 Spanish_Murcia
    15.4 Italy_Friuli
    14.8 Portuguese
    14.0 Italy_Piedmont
    10.4 Italy_Lombardy
    3.0 Egyptian
    2.2 Mayan
    1.4 Tunisian
    0.2 North_Amerindian

    Target: Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
    Distance: 90.2299% / 0.90229888 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.6 Italy_Piedmont
    36.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    3.6 Pima
    2.4 Bantu_N.E.
    2.4 Saudi

    Target: Mexico_White(n=11)
    Distance: 129.8768% / 1.29876825 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    26.6 Spanish_Extremadura
    26.4 Spanish_Murcia
    26.2 Spanish_Valencia
    7.2 Austrian
    5.8 Anzick-1
    3.4 Saudi
    2.4 Serbian
    2.0 Greek_Peloponese

    Target: Cuba_White(n=247)
    Distance: 70.1126% / 0.70112581 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    45.8 Portuguese
    45.6 Spanish_Murcia
    4.0 Tunisian
    1.8 Italy_Friuli
    1.4 Mayan
    1.0 Yoruban
    0.4 Karitiana

    Target: Colombia_White(n=10)
    Distance: 159.8593% / 1.59859305 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    47.6 Spanish_Extremadura
    24.0 Spanish_Murcia
    12.6 Sephardic_Jewish
    10.8 Tuscan
    3.6 Anzick-1
    1.4 Mayan

    Target: Chile_White(n=24)
    Distance: 93.8725% / 0.93872516 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    27.6 Spanish_Murcia
    24.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    21.8 French_South
    18.8 French_Central
    4.8 Finnish_Southwest
    3.0 Karitiana

    Target: Brazil_White(n=616)
    Distance: 78.5919% / 0.78591875 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    35.6 Portuguese
    33.2 Italy_Friuli
    24.2 Spanish_Murcia
    3.4 Austrian
    2.0 Pima
    1.4 Bantu_N.E.
    0.2 North_Amerindian

    Target: Argentina_White(n=502)
    Distance: 82.1572% / 0.82157249 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    35.8 Italy_Liguria
    22.6 Italy_Friuli
    21.0 Italy_Piedmont
    14.8 Spanish_Murcia
    2.8 Saudi
    2.0 Pima
    0.8 Ethiopian_Amhara
    0.2 North_Amerindian



    I mean, it's more realistic, if we are looking for the ancestors of the Latin-Americans.
    The calculator is not wrong -- It is just the Celtic+Germanic+Mediterranean thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    ^^^
    What if you exclude this French_Provence_outlier sample?
    Peterski, I was reading here, French doesn't seem historically wrong for white Puerto Rican (as it appeared in the R3P result). The French fled Haiti to Puerto Rico after the revolt of the Haitians.
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    I added Native American and African compatibility to the datasheet.
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    Target: Moody_scaled
    Distance: 1.2059% / 0.01205936
    52.2 Israel_BA(n=8)
    16.4 Mingrelian(n=24)
    16.2 Sephardic(n=16)
    3.4 Mota_I5950(n=1)
    3.0 Paniya(n=22)
    2.6 Argentina_White(n=502)
    1.4 Sardinia_BA(n=15)
    1.2 Mexico_White(n=11)
    1.2 Saudi(n=24)
    1.2 Uruguay_White(n=109)
    1.0 Maori(n=2)
    0.2 Yoruba(n=8)

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    Distance to:	Moody_scaled
    0.05212264	Israel_BA(n=8)
    0.05657586	Sephardic(n=16)
    0.07238427	Ashkenazi(n=471)
    0.11609509	Mingrelian(n=24)
    0.12288487	Saudi(n=24)
    0.12501137	Colombia_White(n=10)
    0.12667874	Argentina_White(n=502)
    0.13227079	Venezuela_White(n=5)
    0.13300712	Uruguay_White(n=109)
    0.13354973	Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
    0.13562887	Cuba_White(n=247)
    0.13708655	Brazil_White(n=616)
    0.13976678	Mexico_White(n=11)
    0.15686724	Chile_White(n=24)
    0.16914056	Sardinia_BA(n=15)
    0.17637739	Gasconian(n=55)
    0.18307650	Bahamas_White(n=5)
    0.20338193	Norwegian(n=41)
    0.26333081	Latvia_BA(n=10)
    0.29035127	Mari(n=15)
    0.40615711	Paniya(n=22)
    0.57563631	Maori(n=2)
    0.57751774	Yakut(n=30)
    0.60523727	Mapuche(n=12)
    0.60680999	Aborigine(n=14)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulkster View Post
    Target: Moody_scaled
    Distance: 1.2059% / 0.01205936
    52.2 Israel_BA(n=8)
    16.4 Mingrelian(n=24)
    16.2 Sephardic(n=16)
    3.4 Mota_I5950(n=1)
    3.0 Paniya(n=22)
    2.6 Argentina_White(n=502)
    1.4 Sardinia_BA(n=15)
    1.2 Mexico_White(n=11)
    1.2 Saudi(n=24)
    1.2 Uruguay_White(n=109)
    1.0 Maori(n=2)
    0.2 Yoruba(n=8)

    Code:
    Distance to:	Moody_scaled
    0.05212264	Israel_BA(n=8)
    0.05657586	Sephardic(n=16)
    0.07238427	Ashkenazi(n=471)
    0.11609509	Mingrelian(n=24)
    0.12288487	Saudi(n=24)
    0.12501137	Colombia_White(n=10)
    0.12667874	Argentina_White(n=502)
    0.13227079	Venezuela_White(n=5)
    0.13300712	Uruguay_White(n=109)
    0.13354973	Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
    0.13562887	Cuba_White(n=247)
    0.13708655	Brazil_White(n=616)
    0.13976678	Mexico_White(n=11)
    0.15686724	Chile_White(n=24)
    0.16914056	Sardinia_BA(n=15)
    0.17637739	Gasconian(n=55)
    0.18307650	Bahamas_White(n=5)
    0.20338193	Norwegian(n=41)
    0.26333081	Latvia_BA(n=10)
    0.29035127	Mari(n=15)
    0.40615711	Paniya(n=22)
    0.57563631	Maori(n=2)
    0.57751774	Yakut(n=30)
    0.60523727	Mapuche(n=12)
    0.60680999	Aborigine(n=14)
    Kike

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