White American State Averages K15

[J. Ketch]

Technically, to be Irish, you just have to be born in Ireland or descended from someone who was born in Ireland. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are Gaelic or Insular Celtic. It is the Highland Scots who are the Gaelic/Insular Celtic ones, not the Lowlanders who would be more Germanic.

Lowland/Border Scots are more Germanic but they are still of majority Insular Celtic ancestry, and genetically distinct from Southern English; which is what American Southerners genetically resemble most closely (most states are actually further from Scots/Irish than Southern English are on average).

[J. Ketch]

True. The so-called "Scots-Irish" are mostly descended from Lowland Scots so they would be closely related to Northern English people. But are the "rednecks" more closely related to the southeastern English - who are mostly Anglo-Saxon - or the southwestern English who are largely Insular Celtic?

The former - who are not mostly Anglo-Saxon but Franco-Saxon.

[celticdragongod]

The former - who are not mostly Anglo-Saxon but Franco-Saxon.

Who are the Franco-Saxons?

[J. Ketch]

Who are the Franco-Saxons?

It's a term I'm coining to describe the fact that the English are not majority descended from migration era Anglo-Saxons but from migration era Anglo-Saxons + Franks/Frenchmen. I believe the presence of both components together is too closely correlated across Britain to be mere coincidence.

[celticdragongod]

It's a term I'm coining to describe the fact that the English are not majority descended from migration era Anglo-Saxons but from migration era Anglo-Saxons + Franks/Frenchmen. I believe the presence of both components together is too closely correlated across Britain to be mere coincidence.

Weren't the Franks Germanic?

[J. Ketch]

Weren't the Franks Germanic?

Yep, and the only plausible way so much Gaulish blood could enter Britain alongside the Anglo-Saxons while Celtic Britons were on the run is that it was culturally Frankish/Germanic. The Flemish for example are Franks with mostly Celtic ancestry.

'Franco' can also refer to the French ancestry that came later with the Normans.

[Gannicus]

Yep, and the only plausible way so much Gaulish blood could enter Britain alongside the Anglo-Saxons while Celtic Britons were on the run is that it was culturally Frankish/Germanic. The Flemish for example are Franks with mostly Celtic ancestry.

'Franco' can also refer to the French ancestry that came later with the Normans.

There was an English king that also settled people from Flanders into southern Wales. The goal was to better control the country.

[J. Ketch]

There was an English king that also settled people from Flanders into southern Wales. The goal was to better control the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little...d_beyond_Wales
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flemis..._Pembrokeshire

There was also a decent amount of Flemish settlement on the East Coast of Scotland, hence the common Scottish name Fleming.

[Highwayman]

Frankensaxons

[Peterski]

This thread will now be closed and I invite you to the new thread with all New World K15 populations:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...K15-calculator