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    With everything

    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 1.1850% / 0.01184958
    20.6 Scottish
    19.4 BelgianA
    17.4 Irish
    8.8 French
    8.6 Portuguese
    6.2 English
    4.6 German
    4.6 Greek
    4.2 Norwegian
    3.0 Dutch
    1.6 Polish
    1.0 Welsh

    With only known ancestry countries

    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 1.4922% / 0.01492216
    24.2 Scottish:Scottish8
    23.4 Irish:Irish38
    22.0 English:HG00249
    10.4 Italian:ALP129
    9.8 Irish:Irish23
    4.6 Italian:Aosta2
    3.8 German:GSM1031514
    1.8 English:England7

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    Distance to: JamesHolden
    0.02670944 Danish:480
    0.02671234 French:French23989
    0.02898130 English:HG00249
    0.03076983 Welsh:WalesCHF12
    0.03089067 Scottish:Scottish4
    0.03282399 Irish:Irish38
    0.03615568 BelgianA:5434289041_R03C02
    0.03887013 Dutch:Netherlands17
    0.03980259 Norwegian:NOR150
    0.04132349 Icelandic:NA15763
    0.04314425 Scottish:Scottish8
    0.04338802 English:England7
    0.04428116 Welsh:WalesBK33
    0.04508182 Slovenian:Slovenian90
    0.04515435 Czech:Czech3
    0.04531505 Swedish:GSM1884838
    0.04542279 Icelandic:NA15762
    0.04691013 Norwegian:GSM821012
    0.04715269 Czech:Czech1
    0.04849052 Hungarian:NA15200
    0.04960051 Dutch:Netherlands27
    0.04969632 Croatian:Croatia_Cro198
    0.05156084 Polisholish28
    0.05171639 Slovakian:Slovakia118
    0.05251255 Slovakian:Slovakia96



    Target: scaled
    Distance: 1.9315% / 0.01931459 | ADC: 2x RC
    50.0 Danish
    50.0 French
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    With samples only from my known ancestry. Belarusian samples added because my Polish side was from there and it's evident at least most Poles within that space and time had/have local admixture. Of course this is potentially "obscured" because many Poles who emigrated were of Masovian stock (and surrounds) who already probably had a little Baltic admix.

    Evidently my German here swallows up part of my Danish ancestry. Northern Germans are similar, so no shocker.

    Target: Figaro
    Distance: 1.4530% / 0.01452968
    42.4 German
    33.6 Irish
    22.8 Polish
    1.2 Belarusian

    Distance to: Figaro
    0.04543338 Polisholish28
    0.04833131 Irish:Irish38
    0.04880381 Danish:480
    0.04888697 Danish:489
    0.05430235 German:GSM1031514
    0.05492900 German:GRC10044063_German29
    0.05757421 Irish:Irish23
    0.06433930 Belarusian:Belarusian7
    0.06774421 Belarusian:Belarusian2
    0.07009619 Polisholish2
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    With known ancestry and influence regions

    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 1.4241% / 0.01424082
    30.0 English:HG00249
    23.4 Irish:Irish23
    12.0 Irish:Irish38
    10.4 Greek:GreeceNE34
    5.2 Danish:489
    5.0 Welsh:WalesCHF12
    4.6 German:GSM1031514
    4.6 Greek:G25001
    2.0 Danish:480
    1.2 Sardinian:S_Sardinian-2
    0.8 English:England7
    0.6 Welsh:WalesBK33
    0.2 Maltese:Malta2AM91


    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 1.4376% / 0.01437599 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    35.6 Irish
    26.6 English
    17.4 Greek
    10.8 Welsh
    9.6 Danish

    Target: JerryS_scaled
    Distance: 1.4446% / 0.01444604 | R4P
    42.6 English
    35.2 Irish
    17.2 Greek
    5.0 German

    I included Albanian references because of possible Arbereshe ancestry but nothing shows.

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    Target: Ryo_scaled
    Distance: 1.4431% / 0.01443117
    36.8 English
    29.8 Norwegian
    15.2 BelgianA
    7.8 Irish
    5.6 Portuguese
    4.2 Spanish
    0.4 Albanian
    0.2 Swedish

    Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
    Distance: 0.3382% / 0.00338161
    19.6 Icelandic
    19.4 Danish
    15.4 Spanish
    9.4 Irish
    6.6 English
    6.2 Sardinian
    4.6 Austrian
    4.2 Welsh
    3.6 French
    2.6 Latvian
    2.6 Norwegian
    2.4 Slovenian
    2.2 Czech
    1.2 German
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
    0.02974415 Ukrainian:EG600004
    0.03055313 Serbian:18-216
    0.03102793 Slovenian:Slovenian137
    0.03338795 Austrian:Austria5
    0.03347152 Croatian:Croatia_Cro53
    0.03618566 Slovenian:Slovenian90
    0.03650756 Bosnian:Bosnian_11
    0.03726110 Macedonian:Macedonian3
    0.03853469 Czech:Czech3
    0.03890940 Hungarian:HungarianD1
    0.04056709 Montenegrin:Montenegro5
    0.04079544 Hungarian:NA15200
    0.04261619 BelgianA:5434289058_R02C02
    0.04261619 BelgianA:5434289058_R02C02
    0.04272065 Moldovan:44618758492C01
    0.04419955 Slovakian:Slovakia96
    0.04424943 Romanian:A306
    0.04500519 Croatian:Croatia_Cro198
    0.04520478 Czech:Czech1
    0.04647612 Russian:RussianVoron103
    0.04726331 Scottish:Scottish8
    0.04792007 Danish:489
    0.04825562 Polisholish28
    0.04989504 Welsh:WalesBK33
    0.05061580 Bulgarian:BulgarianF2

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    Distance to: Kenshiro_Scaled
    0.03816328 Swiss:Swiss_Italian1
    0.04318528 French:Corsica03708
    0.04514887 Albanian:EastKosovo1
    0.04527899 Serbian:18-646-76
    0.04584836 Albanian:Kosovo_Prizren01
    0.04683828 Bulgarian:BulgarianH2
    0.04689671 Macedonian:Macedonian2
    0.04784127 Moldovan:MOL-005
    0.04984109 Maltese:Malta15AM91
    0.05090809 Greek:GreeceNE34
    0.05166642 Romanian:G421
    0.05187702 Italian:ALP129
    0.06040803 Maltese:Malta2AM91
    0.06052632 Montenegrin:Montenegro1
    0.06374439 Bulgarian:BulgarianF2
    0.06432895 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
    0.06829707 German:GRC10044063_German29
    0.07045461 Austrian:Austria10
    0.07213030 Montenegrin:Montenegro5
    0.07445215 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6
    0.07886397 Hungarian:HungarianD1
    0.07958451 Italian:Aosta2
    0.08344719 Spanish:CAN924
    0.08389221 Bosnian:Bosnian_11
    0.08575177 Bosnian:Bosnian_14

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    I'm used to seeing Balkan peoples (peoples of the Adriatic Sea) in my results, whom I find connected to Italians, especially Albanians. But I find the proximity to populations from southwestern Europe on the Black Sea side particularly interesting. Although in this calculator they do not appear.

    EDIT: For you all, ~6% is very distant, but notice that my closest population here is 5% close. If I pick the closest of any PCA list available, it will not be less than 3%. So 6% for me is very close.

    Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
    Distance: 3.4005% / 0.03400493
    68.4 Spanish:CAN924
    19.4 Estonian:Est391
    4.6 Swedish:GSM1884792
    4.0 German:GSM1031514
    3.6 Sardinian:HGDP00674


    Distance to: Fabricius_K15-G25
    0.05963211 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal6
    0.06021255 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
    0.06072252 Spanish:CAN924
    0.06084402 German:GRC10044063_German29
    0.06749215 Moldovan:MOL-005
    0.06898896 Austrian:Austria10
    0.07595120 Serbian:18-646-76
    0.07633013 Romanian:G421
    0.07726514 Montenegrin:Montenegro1
    0.07763914 Dutch:Netherlands27
    0.07802648 Bulgarian:BulgarianH2
    0.07859098 Bulgarian:BulgarianF2

    0.08024677 Macedonian:Macedonian2
    0.08049016 Italian:Aosta2
    0.08061337 Swiss:Swiss_German2
    0.08069694 Montenegrin:Montenegro5
    0.08087904 Swiss:Swiss_Italian1
    0.08236217 Serbian:18-216
    0.08254722 Greek:GreeceNE34
    0.08342813 BelgianA:5434289058_R02C02
    0.08342813 BelgianA:5434289058_R02C02
    0.08373449 Slovenian:Slovenian90
    0.08386926 Hungarian:HungarianD1
    0.08422896 Spanish:HG01516
    0.08444081 Croatian:Croatia_Cro198


    I asked Grok about what regions these samples represent:

    Here is a concise list in English of each sample from your model, with a very short description of its typical/represented origin (based on common G25 usage, datasets like Eurogenes/Global25, HGDP, and community references):

    Romanian:G421 — Romanian from Gorj county (Tismana area), Oltenia region, southern Romania; often used as a "core" or typical modern Romanian reference.
    Spanish:CAN924 — Spanish from the Canary Islands (insular Atlantic Iberian with Guanche/North African admixture component).
    Estonian:Est391 — Estonian (modern ethnic Estonian, representative of the general Baltic Estonian cluster; no specific sub-region detailed, but typical northern Baltic).
    Swedish:GSM1884792 — Swedish (modern Swede, generic representative; likely central or southern Sweden based on common GSM series usage in datasets).
    German:GSM1031514 — German from northern Germany (often associated with Hamburg or nearby northern/central areas in sample sets; sometimes shows minor eastern/Slavic influence in averages).
    Sardinian:HGDP00674 — Sardinian from the Gennargentu massif (central mountainous interior of Sardinia, e.g., Ogliastra province villages like Tortolì/Lanusei area); classic high-isolation Neolithic-like Sardinian reference.

    These are modern reference samples commonly included in G25 tools for PCA and modeling, capturing broad regional variation in Europe.
    NOTE: The AI of Google says "Romanian:G421" is from Northeast of Romania, while Grok says it is from Wallachia.
    I don't know if the information is accurate.
    Last edited by Fabricius; 03-14-2026 at 03:35 PM.
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    If I put a SSA sample:

    Target: Fabricius_K15-G25
    Distance: 0.7817% / 0.00781707
    16.8 Portuguese:EBC_Portugal2
    11.2 Sardinian:HGDP00674
    10.6 Spanish:HG01516
    10.2 Danish:489
    10.2 Spanish:CAN924
    10.0 Hungarian:NA15200
    8.0 Lithuanian:LTG-1099
    7.2 Yoruba
    6.6 Bosnian:Bosnian_11
    4.6 Austrian:Austria10
    3.2 Serbian:18-646-76
    1.2 Greek:G25001
    0.2 Maltese:Malta15AM91
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    Target: Dorquest_scaled
    Distance: 1.9523% / 0.01952309 | R5P
    30.8 Scottish
    21.8 Danish
    18.8 BelgianA
    16.4 German
    12.2 Italian

    Distance to: Dorquest_scaled
    0.03101495 Scottish:Scottish8
    0.03121208 Danish:489
    0.03167446 BelgianA:5434289058_R02C02
    0.03167446 BelgianA:5434289058_R02C02
    0.03187379 Welsh:WalesBK33
    0.03590063 English:England7
    0.03916301 Swiss:Swiss_German2
    0.04029001 Icelandic:NA15762
    0.04227874 Norwegian:GSM821012
    0.04509042 Irish:Irish23
    0.04667014 French:French23989
    0.04887594 Czech:Czech3
    0.04915844 Icelandic:NA15763
    0.04927241 English:HG00249
    0.05163008 Serbian:18-216
    0.05195349 Welsh:WalesCHF12
    0.05202716 German:GRC10044063_German29
    0.05271826 Slovenian:Slovenian90
    0.05325089 Dutch:Netherlands27
    0.05373128 Czech:Czech1
    0.05381810 Scottish:Scottish4
    0.05486334 Hungarian:HungarianD1
    0.05511337 Swedish:GSM1884792
    0.05598827 Austrian:Austria5
    0.05638981 BelgianA:5434289041_R03C02

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