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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Why so many foreigners get Spanish Canarias???
    Models of this kind, without reducing distance, will identify extreme archaic positions. In any case, this Neolithic—and perhaps even Bronze Age—substrate from the southwestern regions is present even in northeastern populations.
    Below is the IBDs split of early Slavic populations and their neighbors, reduced to the period 4000–5000 YBP.
    https://ibb.co/ycTVc3BN

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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
    Distance to: cass
    0.01408061 German_West_Prussia
    0.01588629 German_Farther_Pomerania
    0.01890766 German_Thuringia_East
    0.01946300 German_Lower_Silesia
    0.02053825 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
    0.02153370 German_Hither_Pomerania
    0.02180841 German_Mecklenburg_West
    0.02256772 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
    0.02306549 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
    0.02315760 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
    0.02387353 German_Saxony
    0.02394549 Swedish_North
    0.02633867 German_North_Bohemia
    0.02636524 German_East_Prussia_Central
    0.02673206 Swedish
    0.02695785 Austrian_Carinthia
    0.02707614 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
    0.02875565 German_Thuringia_Central
    0.03188061 German_County_Glatz
    0.03321572 Norwegian
    0.03379858 German_North_Moravia
    0.03461902 German_Lower_Saxony_South
    0.03478940 Danish
    0.03616772 German_Schleswig-Holstein
    0.03631495 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz


    Target: cass
    Distance: 1.0323% / 0.01032283
    58.2 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
    17.6 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
    10.4 Norwegian_North
    9.4 Italian_Sicily_Agrigento
    4.4 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
    I think many of my German samples may be at least partially Slavic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticdragongod View Post
    I think many of my German samples may be at least partially Slavic.
    There are undoubtedly quite a few samples, mostly Slavic.

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    Target: Vessna_scaled
    Distance: 2.6566% / 0.02656647
    47.0 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
    22.2 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
    20.6 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
    10.2 Saami_Norway

    Distance to: Vessna_scaled
    0.03134684 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
    0.03260888 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
    0.03667285 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
    0.04320573 German_West_Prussia
    0.04536102 German_Farther_Pomerania
    0.04950818 German_Lower_Silesia
    0.05416885 German_Thuringia_East
    0.05456189 Norwegian_North
    0.05509194 Swedish_North
    0.05599558 German_Mecklenburg_West
    0.05669758 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
    0.05806522 German_Hither_Pomerania
    0.05812753 Austrian_Carinthia
    0.05902264 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
    0.05915811 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
    0.05924634 German_East_Prussia_Central
    0.05986081 German_Saxony
    0.06006628 Swedish
    0.06134565 German_North_Bohemia
    0.06492746 German_Thuringia_Central
    0.06608297 German_County_Glatz
    0.06806862 Norwegian
    0.06832856 Austrian_Styria
    0.07074071 German_North_Moravia
    0.07121510 Danish

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    Quote Originally Posted by cass View Post
    Models of this kind, without reducing distance, will identify extreme archaic positions. In any case, this Neolithic—and perhaps even Bronze Age—substrate from the southwestern regions is present even in northeastern populations.
    Below is the IBDs split of early Slavic populations and their neighbors, reduced to the period 4000–5000 YBP.
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    But it´s not "any" SW proxy, it´s Canary islands, a very specific population that has a quite relevant base of Berber-like native component, mixed with a majority proportion of continental Iberian.

    I would find more logical the usual behavior of the references that we usually use, in which foreigners use to get Catalan or Basque, as proxy of ancient contributions.

    This is just G25, IBDs shows real shared ancestry.


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    Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    0.02669123 English_Southwest
    0.02683138 Scottish
    0.02731788 Irish_Munster
    0.02732747 Welsh
    0.02740433 English_West-Midlands
    0.02752432 English_Southeast
    0.02753735 Irish_Ulster
    0.02767836 German_Rhineland-Palatinate_East_of_Rhine
    0.02797853 Irish_Connacht
    0.02828224 English_East
    0.02832007 English_Lancashire
    0.02835224 English_Yorkshire
    0.02841099 English_Northeast
    0.02867284 Flemish
    0.02869088 English_East-Midlands
    0.02912876 Belgian
    0.02939794 German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
    0.02942294 Dutch_Central
    0.02985493 French_Northwest
    0.02992401 Dutch
    0.03062197 French_Northeast
    0.03095960 Dutch_South
    0.03218180 German_North_Rhine
    0.03270225 German_Rhineland-Palatinate
    0.03303890 German_Hesse_South

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.0246% / 0.02461538
    86.5 Irish_Munster
    7.4 Portuguese
    5.2 Italian_Sicily_Agrigento
    0.8 Saami
    0.1 Basque_France

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.0247% / 0.02466438 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    88.0 Irish_Munster
    6.5 Portuguese
    5.5 Italian_Sicily_Agrigento

    Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    Distance: 0.0250% / 0.02502694 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    86.4 Scottish
    13.6 Portuguese

    Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
    0.02477679 91.40% Irish_Munster + 8.60% Italian_Sicily_Agrigento
    0.02480727 91.60% Irish_Munster + 8.40% Italian_Sicily_Palermo
    0.02482926 91.60% Irish_Munster + 8.40% Italian_Sicily_Caltanisetta
    0.02485019 91.40% Irish_Munster + 8.60% Italian_Sicily_Trapani
    0.02488744 86.80% Irish_Munster + 13.20% Spanish_Canarians
    0.02489994 92.00% Irish_Munster + 8.00% Italian_Sicily_Catania
    0.02490515 90.00% Irish_Munster + 10.00% Italian_Lazio
    0.02494117 84.60% Irish_Munster + 15.40% Portuguese
    0.02494965 92.20% Irish_Munster + 7.80% Italian_Sicily_Messina
    0.02495160 88.20% Scottish + 11.80% Spanish_Canarians

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    Target: Vitez_scaled
    Distance: 0.0188% / 0.01878204
    32.9 German_Brandenburg_outlier(Beeskow)
    31.9 German_East_Prussia_Masuria
    30.7 Italian_Sicily_Agrigento
    4.5 Saami

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    I'm half Connacht and half Munster so this one is good for me at least.

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.02378795 Irish_Connacht
    0.02471224 Irish_Munster
    0.02473025 Norwegian
    0.02497275 Irish_Ulster
    0.02584707 Scottish
    0.02661280 Welsh
    0.02689667 Dutch
    0.02702443 Danish
    0.02744574 Dutch_Central
    0.02759530 German_Frisian
    0.02775215 English_Yorkshire
    0.02817214 English_Northeast
    0.02830156 German_Schleswig-Holstein
    0.02890243 English_West-Midlands
    0.02908367 German_Lower_Saxony_South
    0.02912523 English_Lancashire
    0.02936421 English_Southeast
    0.02977804 English_Southwest
    0.03031801 English_East-Midlands
    0.03061937 English_East
    0.03097499 Dutch_South
    0.03144801 Swedish
    0.03359945 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
    0.03546854 German_East_Prussia_Central
    0.03559532 Flemish

    It's odd that it changed from North Norwegian to Norwegian as ADC increased. I would have expected it to be 100 Irish Connacht or Irish Munster.

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2795% / 0.02279490 | ADC: 2x RC
    58.6 Irish_Connacht
    41.4 Norwegian

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2795% / 0.02279490 | ADC: 1x RC
    58.6 Irish_Connacht
    41.4 Norwegian

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2795% / 0.02279490 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    58.6 Irish_Connacht
    41.4 Norwegian

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2512% / 0.02251172 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    83.8 Irish_Connacht
    16.2 Norwegian_North

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2512% / 0.02251172
    83.8 Irish_Connacht
    16.2 Norwegian_North
    The Irish Brigade's battle cry at Fontenoy, "Cuimhnigí ar Luimneach agus ar feall na Sasanaigh," translates to "Remember Limerick and the treachery of the English." After seeing the devastation caused by the Irish Brigade, the Duke of Cumberland reportedly remarked, "God curse the laws that made those men our enemies".


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    First I used the original samples of the calculator and then I included an SSA to get shorter distances.
    I am similar to a Canarian, but not descended from Canarians, I am mostly Portuguese.

    K13-to-G25




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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    I'm half Connacht and half Munster so this one is good for me at least.

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.02378795 Irish_Connacht
    0.02471224 Irish_Munster
    0.02473025 Norwegian
    0.02497275 Irish_Ulster
    0.02584707 Scottish
    0.02661280 Welsh
    0.02689667 Dutch
    0.02702443 Danish
    0.02744574 Dutch_Central
    0.02759530 German_Frisian
    0.02775215 English_Yorkshire
    0.02817214 English_Northeast
    0.02830156 German_Schleswig-Holstein
    0.02890243 English_West-Midlands
    0.02908367 German_Lower_Saxony_South
    0.02912523 English_Lancashire
    0.02936421 English_Southeast
    0.02977804 English_Southwest
    0.03031801 English_East-Midlands
    0.03061937 English_East
    0.03097499 Dutch_South
    0.03144801 Swedish
    0.03359945 German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
    0.03546854 German_East_Prussia_Central
    0.03559532 Flemish

    It's odd that it changed from North Norwegian to Norwegian as ADC increased. I would have expected it to be 100 Irish Connacht or Irish Munster.

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2795% / 0.02279490 | ADC: 2x RC
    58.6 Irish_Connacht
    41.4 Norwegian

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2795% / 0.02279490 | ADC: 1x RC
    58.6 Irish_Connacht
    41.4 Norwegian

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2795% / 0.02279490 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    58.6 Irish_Connacht
    41.4 Norwegian

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2512% / 0.02251172 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    83.8 Irish_Connacht
    16.2 Norwegian_North

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2512% / 0.02251172
    83.8 Irish_Connacht
    16.2 Norwegian_North
    Maybe your EEF levels are lower than typical Irish levels which could be why you show as being partially Norwegian regardless of the chosen ADC? From what I understand, EEF tends to be lower in Scandinavia than in Ireland.

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