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    Default Scottish Genetic Origins

    What if everything you thought you knew about Scottish DNA ancestry is incomplete? New scientific discoveries are reshaping the genetic origin of Scottish people, revealing a far more complex and surprising story than history books ever suggested.

    In this video, we explore the latest breakthroughs in Scotland population genetics, uncovering how ancient migrations, forgotten tribes, and hidden ancestry shaped the DNA of modern Scots. From the legacy of early hunter-gatherers to the influence of Iron Age kingdoms and Norse settlers, this journey through ancient Scottish DNA history reveals how layers of identity were built over thousands of years.

    You’ll discover how cutting-edge genetic studies are rewriting long-held assumptions, challenging myths, and offering a clearer picture of who the Scottish people truly are. This is not just history—it’s a deep look into identity, survival, and the hidden threads that connect past to present.

    If you’ve ever wondered what lies beneath the surface of Scottish ancestry revealed, this story will change the way you see Scotland forever.


    Sources & References
    • PNAS (2019) — Gilbert et al.: Scotland’s DNA shows 6 ancient genetic clusters linked to Dark Age kingdoms
    • PLOS Genetics (2023) — Pictish genomes reveal Iron Age continuity; closest to western Scots, Welsh & Irish
    • PNAS (2015) — Cassidy et al.: Bell Beaker migration brought steppe ancestry to Britain
    • Jim Wilson — Mapping Scotland’s genetic landscape & ancient kingdoms
    • Linus Girdland-Flink — Pictish DNA & Iron Age Scottish ancestry
    • Heredity (2005) — Viking-era Scandinavian settlement in Orkney & Shetland
    • Harvard Reich Lab / PoBI — British Isles genetics, Bell Beaker & Viking ancestry



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    Not sure if I posted this calculator before but for anyone who is interested give it a go:

    Code:
    Irish_Ulster,0.131102,0.133204,0.063138,0.051918,0.038161,0.019483,0.004465,0.005404,0.00392,0.002661,-0.004313,0.006249,-0.01258,-0.013237,0.024226,0.006388,-0.013589,0.001647,0.002873,0.002776,0.004396,0.002308,0.001096,0.013444,0.001146
    Irish_Leinster,0.132149,0.134558,0.062036,0.048934,0.039623,0.018058,0.004465,0.004904,0.004934,0.0041,0.004465,0.005245,-0.01167,-0.01328,0.023412,0.00537,-0.012322,0.002122,0.002954,0.001938,0.004617,0.001855,0.001725,0.01217,-0.000359
    Irish_Connacht,0.132924,0.133937,0.064563,0.052781,0.038334,0.019919,0.003342,0.004846,0.003113,0.001659,-0.005251,0.006839,-0.014299,-0.014764,0.026131,0.008316,-0.014197,0.000493,0.001713,0.002737,0.004742,0.001552,0.001575,0.013898,0.001197
    Irish_Munster,0.131153,0.134522,0.06323,0.051052,0.039433,0.018861,0.00392,0.004944,0.003984,0.002874,-0.004245,0.006456,-0.012471,-0.01416,0.02422,0.006902,-0.012724,0.00164,0.00223,0.00234,0.005477,0.001625,0.001569,0.013324,0.000787
    Scottish_South,0.129949,0.134105,0.062024,0.048995,0.038673,0.018659,0.003789,0.004514,0.005273,0.004313,-0.004079,0.005847,-0.011681,-0.013063,0.022934,0.005995,-0.011986,0.002047,0.003051,0.002551,0.004222,0.001925,0.001925,0.012351,0.000421
    Scottish_North,0.129331,0.133237,0.063168,0.051422,0.037576,0.020164,0.003361,0.004777,0.00409,0.001713,-0.005083,0.006192,-0.013513,-0.013639,0.024864,0.007624,-0.012621,0.00171,0.002526,0.003464,0.004866,0.002102,0.001158,0.014387,0.001437
    Orcadian,0.131009,0.132831,0.062149,0.051551,0.037915,0.019913,0.004348,0.0048,-0.004044,-0.001476,-0.005213,0.006474,-0.013409,-0.012891,0.024728,0.008406,-0.01223,0.002458,0.002715,0.003827,0.005391,0.002448,0.001454,0.014291,0.00218
    Welsh,0.131571,0.134952,0.061471,0.046189,0.039432,0.016911,0.004126,0.004813,0.005318,0.005123,-0.004098,0.005342,-0.010885,-0.01221,0.022026,0.005473,-0.011604,0.002013,0.002814,0.002001,0.004381,0.002357,0.001554,0.01185,0.000305
    English_North,0.131009,0.134558,0.060151,0.046512,0.038776,0.016957,0.003713,0.004846,0.005277,0.004629,-0.004157,0.005245,-0.010793,-0.011836,0.021579,0.005423,-0.011317,0.002103,0.002992,0.002101,0.003893,0.002127,0.001873,0.011327,-0.000109
    English_South,0.129759,0.135404,0.058328,0.042571,0.038469,0.015433,0.003368,0.004292,0.005692,0.005704,-0.003978,0.005085,-0.009772,-0.010734,0.019567,0.004574,-0.010474,0.001858,0.002715,0.001476,0.003469,0.001834,0.001183,0.010041,-0.00016
    English_Cornwall,0.131579,0.136284,0.059434,0.043513,0.039434,0.015562,0.003619,0.004384,0.005634,0.005686,-0.003784,0.00538,-0.010213,-0.011382,0.021051,0.005516,-0.011278,0.001837,0.002765,0.001713,0.003931,0.002164,0.00122,0.01111,0.000144
    Dutch,0.128741,0.13532,0.059296,0.04299,0.038673,0.015408,0.004042,0.004454,0.005563,0.00523,-0.004044,0.004691,-0.009366,-0.010363,0.018784,0.004243,-0.009231,0.00171,0.002778,0.001926,0.003456,0.001867,0.001553,0.009628,0.000192
    Norwegian,0.124636,0.126433,0.065279,0.054329,0.039238,0.020694,0.006204,0.007638,0.005952,0.00226,-0.005489,0.005545,-0.010703,-0.010721,0.021077,0.008061,-0.008983,0.002673,0.004123,0.005165,0.005715,0.002881,0.001738,0.012893,0.00109
    Danish,0.128522,0.132526,0.061803,0.048741,0.039568,0.018337,0.005434,0.006092,0.005394,0.003503,-0.004374,0.00512,-0.010361,-0.010857,0.020584,0.006152,-0.009583,0.002075,0.00348,0.003666,0.004944,0.002462,0.001861,0.011681,0.000652
    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.01647855 Scottish_South
    0.01662100 Irish_Ulster
    0.01678562 English_North
    0.01696912 Welsh
    0.01710377 Danish
    0.01750497 Irish_Munster
    0.01779127 Scottish_North
    0.01825462 Irish_Leinster
    0.01863641 Irish_Connacht
    0.01868942 English_Cornwall
    0.01974939 English_South
    0.01977715 Dutch
    0.02109488 Orcadian
    0.02161535 Norwegian

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6079% / 0.01607923
    49.6 Irish_Ulster
    39.4 English_North
    5.6 Irish_Leinster
    5.4 Danish

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6079% / 0.01607923 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    49.6 Irish_Ulster
    39.4 English_North
    5.6 Irish_Leinster
    5.4 Danish

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6089% / 0.01608882 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    53.4 Irish_Ulster
    46.6 English_North

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6089% / 0.01608882 | ADC: 1x RC
    53.4 Irish_Ulster
    46.6 English_North

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6339% / 0.01633879 | ADC: 2x RC
    58.8 Scottish_South
    41.2 Irish_Ulster

    Results after omitting Danish, Dutch and English_North:

    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.01647855 Scottish_South
    0.01662100 Irish_Ulster
    0.01696912 Welsh
    0.01750497 Irish_Munster
    0.01779127 Scottish_North
    0.01825462 Irish_Leinster
    0.01863641 Irish_Connacht
    0.01868942 English_Cornwall
    0.01974939 English_South
    0.02109488 Orcadian
    0.02161535 Norwegian


    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6206% / 0.01620589
    55.2 Irish_Ulster
    37.0 Welsh
    7.6 Irish_Leinster
    0.2 English_South


    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6206% / 0.01620589 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    55.0 Irish_Ulster
    37.4 Welsh
    7.6 Irish_Leinster


    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6206% / 0.01620589 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    55.0 Irish_Ulster
    37.4 Welsh
    7.6 Irish_Leinster


    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6339% / 0.01633879 | ADC: 1x RC
    58.8 Scottish_South
    41.2 Irish_Ulster

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 1.6339% / 0.01633879 | ADC: 2x RC
    58.8 Scottish_South
    41.2 Irish_Ulster
    Last edited by celticdragongod; 05-16-2026 at 01:28 AM.

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    Small ancient Celtic calculator:

    Code:
    Insular_Celt:England_Iron_Age,0.131124,0.146439,0.057398,0.037985,0.040931,0.012271,0.001363,0.004938,0.015626,0.017713,-0.003053,0.005575,-0.012547,-0.011863,0.019829,0.001962,-0.013403,0.003978,0.003117,0.002276,0.001847,0.00282,0.000148,0.007423,0.000742
    Insular_Celt:Scotland_LIA,0.130612,0.14649,0.059208,0.041021,0.039469,0.017919,0.001939,0.005134,0.013294,0.01508,0.001543,0.007531,-0.013751,-0.008945,0.022903,-0.000166,-0.013983,0.003104,0.00374,0.001719,0.004461,0.002937,-0.000154,0.008585,0.001916
    Continental_Celt:France_Iron_Age,0.126344,0.14319,0.044123,0.014858,0.041238,0.005857,0.00235,0.003461,0.015544,0.022233,-0.003085,0.006594,-0.011596,-0.005367,0.007329,0.003978,-0.002608,0.002407,0.00352,-0.000875,0.001872,0.002473,-0.001479,-0.000482,0.000239
    Ancient_Irish:Bronze_Age_Rathlin,0.130896,0.146236,0.056945,0.043605,0.038469,0.017849,-0.00047,0.002538,0.016362,0.018588,-0.00406,-0.001199,-0.015312,-0.013487,0.025379,0.005038,-0.017211,0.001774,0.005028,0.0005,0.001872,-0.001607,0.001602,0.010122,0.000838
    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.02739659 Insular_Celt:Scotland_LIA
    0.03105934 Ancient_Irish:Bronze_Age_Rathlin
    0.03120558 Insular_Celt:England_Iron_Age
    0.05681698 Continental_Celt:France_Iron_Age


    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.7359% / 0.02735904
    91.2 Insular_Celt:Scotland_LIA
    8.8 Ancient_Irish:Bronze_Age_Rathlin


    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.7359% / 0.02735904 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    91.2 Insular_Celt:Scotland_LIA
    8.8 Ancient_Irish:Bronze_Age_Rathlin

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 2.7397% / 0.02739659 | ADC: 0.5x RC
    100.0 Insular_Celt:Scotland_LIA

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