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    I added a K36-based European PCA (check post #4 in this thread).

    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    In the G25 North Europe PCA the Dutch/Flemish do overlap abt. 90% with the English. There is no overlap with Scandinavians etc.
    In my K36 PCA English plot between Dutch and Irish, which I think makes more sense than overlapping with Dutch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opie View Post
    Source? I don’t remember seeing some part of the Dutch cluster overlapping with Austria.
    From back when I used to make G25 PCAs many years ago (small overlap but it's a small sample size):
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    I added a K36-based European PCA (check post #4 in this thread).



    In my K36 PCA English plot between Dutch and Irish, which I think makes more sense than overlapping with Dutch.
    English overlap with both (all NW European nations overlap with each other) but are closer to the Netherlands on average.

    Many Frisians overlap strongly with Scots and Irish too, more so than with English (Dutch Bronze Age ancestry coming through).
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Ketch View Post
    From back when I used to make G25 PCAs many years ago (small overlap but it's a small sample size):
    Just ignore it. G25 Plotting is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Ketch View Post
    Many Frisians overlap strongly with Scots and Irish too, more so than with English (Dutch Bronze Age ancestry coming through).
    Also Groningens iirc but I don't remember seeing a strong overlap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post

    In my K36 PCA English plot between Dutch and Irish, which I think makes more sense than overlapping with Dutch.
    Indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opie View Post
    Just ignore it. G25 Plotting is a joke.
    You mean G25 samples are a joke? The plotting is just visualising them. Regardless some Dutch overlapping with Austrians is not a stretch. Dutch Limburg is Flemish-like, and Flemish are South German-like.
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    re: the spread of ethnic Germans/Austrians, I saw some North Italian-like results from supposed German-speakers in Italy on a thread here a while ago.

    edit: this is the post
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...61#post7485861

    Are we to consider these people ethnic Germans/Austrians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Ketch View Post
    You mean G25 samples are a joke? The plotting is just visualising them. Regardless some Dutch overlapping with Austrians is not a stretch. Dutch Limburg is Flemish-like, and Flemish are South German-like.
    There’s something wrong about them. I am far away from my closest matches in g25 PCAs.

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    A freshly prepared G25 PCA with some of the overlapping groups mentioned, from the very inadequate and limited G25 datasheet.
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