Genetically diverse and homogenous ethnicities of Europe

[Sebastianus Rex]

Portugal is as homogeneous as it can get in Europe, possibly the most Mediterranean country in Europe. Spain is phenotypically more varied imo.

[Tooting Carmen]

Portugal is as homogeneous as it can get in Europe, possibly the most Mediterranean country in Europe.

What about Greece?

Spain is phenotypically more varied imo.

Compared to the Portuguese (and probably Greeks too), I find that Spaniards have higher proportions per capita of both very blonde and very dark types. So yeah.

[Opie]

What about Greece?

Are you even asking this? Portuguese is far more homogeneous than Greeks. Pontic and Cypriots Greeks do not even cluster with Europeans.

[Sebastianus Rex]

What about Greece?



Compared to the Portuguese (and probably Greeks too), I find that Spaniards have higher proportions per capita of both very blonde and very dark types. So yeah.

Greece has a strong dinaric component.

[AndreiDNA]

Examples of genetically heterogenous large ethnic groups of Europe:

- French
- Italians
- Germans
- Greeks

Examples of genetically homogenous large ethnic groups of Europe:

- English
- Spanish
- Romanians
- Belarusians

Examples of intermediate (neither too diverse nor homogenous) ones:

- Russians
- Poles
- Ukrainians*
- Dutch

*Ukrainians would be homogenous if not for South-Western Ukrainians.

gotta give you a downvote for this bro. feel bad doing it but this is bull. Russians are the most genetically heterogenous nation in europe by far. Central Russians are closer to anatolian turks than to northern russians.

[Orion Arm]

gotta give you a downvote for this bro. feel bad doing it but this is bull. Russians are the most genetically heterogenous nation in europe by far. Central Russians are closer to anatolian turks than to northern russians.

Peterski made a great point as usual (he is one of the better contributors to this forum), so take a deserved downvote from me.

Anthrogenica and TA single ethnicity members' G25 coords aggregated in the North Europe PCA

[AndreiDNA]

Peterski made a great point as usual (he is one of the better contributors to this forum), so take a deserved downvote from me.

Anthrogenica and TA single ethnicity members' G25 coords aggregated in the North Europe PCA

i can prove that Russians are the most diverse ethnicity in europe.

According to F2 statistics, Russian.HO is as close to Turks as to russians from leshukonsk. According to F2 statistics, Russian.HO is 3 times closer to Bulgarian than to Leshukonsk Russians.

Fst statistics show the same thing

Keep in mind that Russian.HO includes NORTHERN russians from the HGDP dataset. A group made up of ONLY central/southern russians would be even more distant from leshukonsk russians.
There is no other ethnicity in europe with a genetic range like that. so the thread is beyond silly, claiming Germans are more diverse than russians genetically

[Orion Arm]

i can prove that Russians are the most diverse ethnicity in europe.

According to F2 statistics, Russian.HO is as close to Turks as to russians from leshukonsk. According to F2 statistics, Russian.HO is 3 times closer to Bulgarian than to Leshukonsk Russians.

Fst statistics show the same thing

Keep in mind that Russian.HO includes NORTHERN russians from the HGDP dataset. A group made up of ONLY central/southern russians would be even more distant from leshukonsk russians.
There is no other ethnicity in europe with a genetic range like that. so the thread is beyond silly, claiming Germans are more diverse than russians genetically

Now, deduce the logical explanation for why all Russians from Anthrogenica and TA cluster tightly together, and why not a single Russian individual from either forum clusters even remotely close to the Leshukonsky.

[Dušan]

Now, deduce the logical explanation for why all Russians from Anthrogenica and TA cluster tightly together, and why not a single Russian individual from either forum clusters even remotely close to the Leshukonsky.

Why Leshukonsky average would even be relevent?
Less than 10,000 people live in that area.

[Peterski]

Andrei, are you using Leshukonsky samples from Jeong & Balanovsky 2019 study?

These samples:

Rakrlsh-002
Rakrlsh-140
Rakrlsh-143
Rakrlsh-144
Rakrlsh-149

I added them to my K36-based PCA and this is how they plot (see 5 black dots):

https://i.postimg.cc/Bqq1m6SJ/Leshukonsky.png



Maybe it is a limitation of K36 but as you can see they are not drastically different.
Their average / midpoint plots within the Russian area based on other averages.

In fact their midpoint plots right next to my average for Arkhangelsk Oblast (which includes also Krasnoborsky samples).
Can we see how Russians from Arkhangelsk Oblast plot in a G25-based PCA?

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Andrei can you show us a PCA where Central Russians plot closer to Anatolian Turks than to Northern Russians?

It can be a PCA from some academic study.