You've been lied to about Globular Amphora Culture

[Vessna]

According to Vessna, these two belarusians should score the same thing (100% NE Europe) for morphology
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Let’s not be abstract here, I am asking you to explain a real result on a person with known genotype and ancestry.

[AndreiDNA]

Let’s not be abstract here, I am asking you to explain a real result on a person with known genotype and ancestry.

It was the intention of my tool for *certain Belarusians, who have a mediterranean-west asian morphology, like Lukashenko for example, to score 60% MENA on the morphology calculator. Not every single Belarusian is 100% NE European morphologically. There are belarusians with more southern phenotypes (coloring aside) too.
The morphology calculator is about 50-60 snps that are all located in morphology related genes, such as EDAR and PAX3. It is possible for a Belarusian to score 60% MENA on it because there ARE belarusians whose morphology is 60% MENA.
There is actually a very valid reason for why your husband's result is the way it is, and if you ever explored the report you'd see it.
"AG genotype in EDAR's rs3827760, Likely has shovel shaped incissors and either partial or full East Asian Ancestry
GG in rs6542787, no European EDAR alleles. Likely not a European
AC genotype in EDAR's rs260690, Likely not European facial traits. Rare for Europeans, common for East Asians.
CT in rs892540, slightly shorter midface length
GG in PAX3s rs7559271, decreased odds of protruding nasal bridge, more upturned nose
CC in rs4648379, larger nose size.
CC in rs938036, likely has mandibular third molar, lower odds of tooth agenesis (missing teeth)
AA in rs7702108, slightly thicker eyebrows"
From his facial morphology panel section.

[AndreiDNA]

Me with siblings and our predictions. Old pictures from 2021, theyre a lot bigger now

[Vessna]

It was the intention of my tool for *certain Belarusians, who have a mediterranean-west asian morphology, like Lukashenko for example, to score 60% MENA on the morphology calculator. Not every single Belarusian is 100% NE European morphologically. There are belarusians with more southern phenotypes (coloring aside) too.
The morphology calculator is about 50-60 snps that are all located in morphology related genes, such as EDAR and PAX3. It is possible for a Belarusian to score 60% MENA on it because there ARE belarusians whose morphology is 60% MENA.
There is actually a very valid reason for why your husband's result is the way it is, and if you ever explored the report you'd see it.
"AG genotype in EDAR's rs3827760, Likely has shovel shaped incissors and either partial or full East Asian Ancestry
GG in rs6542787, no European EDAR alleles. Likely not a European
AC genotype in EDAR's rs260690, Likely not European facial traits. Rare for Europeans, common for East Asians.
CT in rs892540, slightly shorter midface length
GG in PAX3s rs7559271, decreased odds of protruding nasal bridge, more upturned nose
CC in rs4648379, larger nose size.
CC in rs938036, likely has mandibular third molar, lower odds of tooth agenesis (missing teeth)
AA in rs7702108, slightly thicker eyebrows"
From his facial morphology panel section.

I still don’t think my original question has been answered.

I asked how someone who is overwhelmingly Northeastern European ends up scoring 60.2% MENA and 27% South Asian on your morphology calculator. Instead, you shifted to comparisons to Lukashenko whose results we haven’t even seen.

As for my husband, he doesn’t have shovel shaped incisors, and he certainly doesn’t look East Asian like the calculator produced. Listing individual variants isn’t the same as showing that the final prediction is actually accurate.

The same goes for the Lukashenko comparison. Without seeing his results it’s hard to know what relevance that example is supposed to have.

What I’m trying to understand is pretty simple: how does the calculator arrive at 60.2% MENA and 27% South Asian for someone whose ancestry comes back overwhelmingly Northeastern European across multiple DNA tests? What do those percentages actually represent and what evidence is there that this interpretation is accurate?

That’s the part I keep asking about.

[Live The Magic]

It was the intention of my tool for *certain Belarusians, who have a mediterranean-west asian morphology, like Lukashenko for example, to score 60% MENA on the morphology calculator. Not every single Belarusian is 100% NE European morphologically. There are belarusians with more southern phenotypes (coloring aside) too.
The morphology calculator is about 50-60 snps that are all located in morphology related genes, such as EDAR and PAX3. It is possible for a Belarusian to score 60% MENA on it because there ARE belarusians whose morphology is 60% MENA.
There is actually a very valid reason for why your husband's result is the way it is, and if you ever explored the report you'd see it.
"AG genotype in EDAR's rs3827760, Likely has shovel shaped incissors and either partial or full East Asian Ancestry
GG in rs6542787, no European EDAR alleles. Likely not a European
AC genotype in EDAR's rs260690, Likely not European facial traits. Rare for Europeans, common for East Asians.
CT in rs892540, slightly shorter midface length
GG in PAX3s rs7559271, decreased odds of protruding nasal bridge, more upturned nose
CC in rs4648379, larger nose size.
CC in rs938036, likely has mandibular third molar, lower odds of tooth agenesis (missing teeth)
AA in rs7702108, slightly thicker eyebrows"
From his facial morphology panel section.

Nothing wrong with your calculator. Its fine. She is just unhappy she got Mtebid or Pamirid + Noric, something that's probably not so standard (but exists) in the country she's from.

[Vessna]

Me with siblings and our predictions. Old pictures from 2021, theyre a lot bigger now

This is called anecdotal evidence. I can DM you pictures of my entire family and it doesn’t look much different from yours.

[AndreiDNA]

I still don’t think my original question has been answered.

I asked how someone who is overwhelmingly Northeastern European ends up scoring 60.2% MENA and 27% South Asian on your morphology calculator. Instead, you shifted to comparisons to Lukashenko whose results we haven’t even seen.

As for my husband, he doesn’t have shovel shaped incisors, and he certainly doesn’t look East Asian like the calculator produced. Listing individual variants isn’t the same as showing that the final prediction is actually accurate.

The same goes for the Lukashenko comparison. Without seeing his results it’s hard to know what relevance that example is supposed to have.

What I’m trying to understand is pretty simple: how does the calculator arrive at 60.2% MENA and 27% South Asian for someone whose ancestry comes back overwhelmingly Northeastern European across multiple DNA tests? What do those percentages actually represent and what evidence is there that this interpretation is accurate?

That’s the part I keep asking about.

statistics. As ive said before, a portion of belarusians will score what you scored. As i've also said before, this is the intention of the calculator. To predict morphology, rather than just go based off ethnicity.
"As for my husband, he doesn’t have shovel shaped incisors, and he certainly doesn’t look East Asian like the calculator produced." God almighty Ural/Volgid is now east asian! So mtebid is Armenoid, Uralid is east asian, what's next! I'm tired of talking with you. Pointless conversation

[Vessna]

Nothing wrong with your calculator. Its fine. She is just unhappy she got Mtebid or Pamirid + Noric, something that's probably not so standard (but exists) in the country she's from.

I am unhappy because it’s inaccurate. Instead of admitting that the prediction tool is not correct I am being gaslighted that I look different. Are you people really this autistic?

[Vessna]

statistics. As ive said before, a portion of belarusians will score what you scored. As i've also said before, this is the intention of the calculator. To predict morphology, rather than just go based off ethnicity.
"As for my husband, he doesn’t have shovel shaped incisors, and he certainly doesn’t look East Asian like the calculator produced." God almighty Ural/Volgid is now east asian! So mtebid is Armenoid, Uralid is east asian, what's next! I'm tired of talking with you. Pointless conversation

Only that he’s not Uralid. Your prediction was incorrect.

[AndreiDNA]

I am unhappy because it’s inaccurate. Instead of admitting that the prediction tool is not correct I am being gaslighted that I look different. Are you people really this autistic?

That's because the prediction tool is correct, in fact the best of its kind, and you're going in circles, offended the calculator didn't yield you a Baltic result. You didn't like your result. Most people do. Time to move on