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It sucks so much that Scandiavians have entire towns populated by Swedes permanently, getting local works, even their own business, sending their children to school. But don't take my word for it, visit Fuengirola. I even know several swedish girls that have spanish husbands and viceversa.
don't underestimate the necessity of cash for many people. It means the difference between being able to survive or not.
You are entitle to your opinion about the beauty of Spanish girls. We will discuss that in another thread. But now think of this: Spaniards are very protectionists . For all I can tell you they will prefer to get a Spanish woman in almost every scenario. I think you overestimate the appearance of Brazilian and Romanian prostitutes
This is simply delusional. And tricked is not even as common as "forced". I know you will counter argument with something like "the whores I know do it for pretty shoes and gold necklaces", and seeing that you "avoided" commenting of the data I posted comparing the HDI of Greece and Russia , it feels a bit pointless to give you more data collected by all sorts of organizations (governmental , independent, humanitary, or simply academic research) pointing in that direction. But you know you don't need to google too much to find it. It just doesn't suit your rather odd viewsNo one is tricked into whoring.
She has now finished her studies, she was rescued by the red cross and she works in a practice, she is not of Gypsy background (Roma) Her captors are now in jail (a story with a happy ending).She was going to be a surgeon and her mother died so she was forced into prostitution? Congrats you've met a Gypsy.
In their culture, if you come into marriage not being a virgin you can be outcasted or even murdered. I am not saying that there isn't any Gypsy prostitutes, there probably are many as in every other group... but "hooking" is not more in their nature than in Russians'What? Gypsies are the ones who hook. It's their culture. Stop being tricked by Gypsies.
That's not all you were saying. That's not even what you say. You are saying it now to cover up for your failed attempt to make a point to your causeSome Spanish girls show up when you browse the sites, that's all I'm saying.
Russias government admits 700.000 street kids in Russia. Independent organizations say 2-4 million.No children are homeless in Russia. Where do you get all this stuff from? Are you a Gypsy yourself by any chance? Will you be asking us to donate to your special organization that helps children in Russia?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/wo...00/2820251.stm
http://www.ilo.org/public/english/re...les/08_2en.pdf
http://englishrussia.com/2007/06/13/...-stpetersburg/
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http://english.pravda.ru/history/14-...85-homeless-0/
http://themoscownews.com/society/201...188442682.html
http://www.rt.com/news/homeless-chil...roblem-russia/
Also, thanks to those organizations your were mocking before, the numbers of homeless kids are dropping... maybe you should open your eyes more.
Look, it seems even Swedes know about the issue a lot. Check this Russian-Swedish film
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so instead of looking into the cold facts and the data provided by every organisation, official or independent available, we should take the word of a glorified self proclaimed trophy-wife living in Sweden and with serious attention needs?These indexes are all nonsense. You need to look at the reality on the ground.
I don't know any russians living in Greece, but I know quite a few westerners (Brits, Germans, Swedes,Spaniards, French), and the reports go like this: They love it to bits. I also know many westerners that have spent some time in Russia (myself)Greece is the Third World compared to Russia. Don't take my word for it, ask some other Russians that actually live there.
Don't take me wrong, I love Russia, but if there is a Third World country here...understanding third world country a place where the differences between the rich and the poor are the highest and where living conditions for the poor are extremely harsh, then Russia is the worst place to be
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Those are old people who moved there because Spain was "the place to go" back in the 1960s. No youngsters would do anything like that.
This is Europe, there is welfare here, nobody is forced to do this.
I haven't met many Spanish people, but I would suspect that they have a fetish for Northern women.
No one is forced into prostitution.
HDI and all the other indexes are nonsense. They do not reflect the reality on the ground.
I think she is a lying Gypsy.
Do you think I was born yesterday? In Rumania pretty much all prostitutes are Gypsies. And abroad the overwhelming majority of Rumanian prostitutes are Gypsies. It's part of their culture that they do this. Just like begging, using their kids to steal, etc.
Yes, it is what I was saying.
That is a dying Western propaganda lie. All children are under the care of the government and they have very good conditions.
That is a movie made by a Swede. It's fiction.
Those organizations are covers for Western intelligence agencies that try to undermine Russia. What they present as "cold facts" and "data" is stuff that they themselves make up. If you are an actual Russian, you don't fall for that, because it's made for Western consumption.
No, Brits like Greece because Britain isn't very nice to begin with.
Russia has a better standard than Western Europe. It is on par with Scandinavia. The price levels in regular towns are about like in Sweden (which more expensive than Britain) and in the bigger cities they are higher. So most Westerners can't afford to go there. This is the reason why there's so much propaganda in the media. If people found out that they have a lower standard of living than in Russia, they would flip.
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Mary, I have a fetish for nordic men, therefore also for you.
Come here and kiss me!
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Ok So Russia has a better living standard than the UK, Greece and southern Europe as a whole are dumpholes, and Russia is on pair with Scandinavia.
There was no such disaster for the average Russian folks during the privatization years, not entire regions abandoned to their luck, no hundreds of thousands of children (and millions of adults) living on the streets, and every single report by every organisation is a propaganda consortium to make us believe that Russia is on pair (if not worse off) than Brazil when it comes to inequality and human development.
Also, forced prostitution does not exist, children sex slaves do not exist either (at least, not in Russia), and prostitution is actually a natural thing that every "marriage driven" woman does in one way or another.
Also Korfu is a horrible and dumpy place in the eyes of your average Russian, that I assume fin their own Black and Caspian sea resorts much more "top class"
Oh, and all the thousands of swedes living in Spain have been there since the 60's (when Spain, apparently was a much better place )
http://www.expat-blog.com/en/nationa.../europe/spain/
for being over 60 years old they look pretty damn good! must be the aryan thing
there's 60-70 thousand Swedish living in Spain as for 2012. Must be really hard for them .
http://www.larazon.es/noticia/9678-a...ten-protegidos
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There's a lot of trolling and stupidity on this thread but to address this point, I agree with you about the "street kids". I've been there many times. This streetchildren story sounds like typical j00 bullshit.
Yup... Swedish propaganda is particularly nasty and typically laced with outrageous BS. The same as UK propaganda (BBC in particular). Countries like Russia, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela etc are usually the targets.That is a movie made by a Swede. It's fiction.
It's sad that Westerners are so stupid to believe BS from NGO's, "charities" (fronts for Western Intelligence Agencies) and Western J00 media.
Agreed and many Western dumbasses believe everything they're told. It would have been better if they actually went there instead of post fictional statistics from Soros type NGO's.Those organizations are covers for Western intelligence agencies that try to undermine Russia. What they present as "cold facts" and "data" is stuff that they themselves make up. If you are an actual Russian, you don't fall for that, because it's made for Western consumption.
If you mean standard of living as measured in earnings, environment etc, no fkn way. That's incorrect.Russia has a better standard than Western Europe. It is on par with Scandinavia.
It can be pretty good depending on who you are, what you earn etc but on average? No way.
Prices vary depending on region but I agree that it isn't cheap, particularly in cities and towns in Western Russia.The price levels in regular towns are about like in Sweden (which more expensive than Britain) and in the bigger cities they are higher. So most Westerners can't afford to go there.
There's some truth to this in that conditions in Russia are nowhere near as bad as people *think* they are but on average the living standard is lower than in much of Western Europe.This is the reason why there's so much propaganda in the media. If people found out that they have a lower standard of living than in Russia, they would flip.
Whether people in Russia lead a worse life... that is a completely different question because quality of life cannot be measured in terms of only money and earnings. I think the life there is quite good as long as you have a reasonable job, you have a good network of friends.
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Yeah, that's about right.
Nobody lived on the streets in the 90s. People got to stay in their homes without paying rent or bills, because nobody could afford it anyway. Try that in the US, there you have people living in tents, but no one will make it an issue. No one in Russia has ever had to live in a tent, not even in the 90s.
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You will not see this in Russia.
The propaganda was worse back then. They used to put a lot of effort into it.
When someone gets forced into prostitution it's almost always people who belong to a clan within a small ethnic minority. Gypsies is one of them.
Don't take my word for it, go and ask actual Russians how Russia compares to Greece.
If you want to put it in different terms, no Swede under 50 can afford to retire in Spain today, it's too expensive. People retire in Thailand instead.
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