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    Quote Originally Posted by Gota_type_ View Post
    Interesting. You share 85cM with a viking? and with a largest segment of 35cM?

    This is too much. It is obvious that you descend from him (or someone related with him), so he is your family.

    Even in gedmatch the largest segment I get from someone alive is 18cM, and the total cM is like 26cM or something like that.

    Either you have been very lucky with that match or they are using other kind of parametrización but sharing 85cM with someone that died 1000 years ago is impressive.

    Ahora te toca ver cómo llegaron los vikingos a Andalucía, o bien como los que en las crónicas llamaban "eslavos" que incluían gentes de muchas nacionalidades, incluyendo nórdicos, o cómo jefe de algún reino de taifas (alguno fue "eslavo), o bien por las incursiones que hicieron por el Guadalquivir. A saber.


    Now that I have been updated I am number one with a trophy with this sample. I am not really sure but that date seems to fit the time when the Vikings were in what is now Andalusia and it is documented that an undetermined group of Viking prisoners had to settle in the area; although how to know if it is the origin or is another. E1b1b1a1b1a - Viking Age Bogovej Langeland Denmark (VK362)

    In Medieval Ages I have these results

    Medieval Age

    5. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    880 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.193 - I10895

    14. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.71 - I10852

    25. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.65 - I10851

    26. Medieval Villa Magna Italy
    990 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.72 - R63

    28. Late Medieval L'Esquerda Spain
    1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.81 - T-145-2

    30. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
    1485 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.94 - R1221

    47. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
    1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.0 - VK265

    63. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.64 - I10853

    67. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
    1429 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.84 - R1289

    76. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
    1355 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.06 - R55


    In modern times these are my results:
    Early Modern Period

    22. Le Mans Revolutionary France
    1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.51 - LM_406_T

    120. Marseilles Plague Victim
    1721 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.24 - OBS137

    156. Le Mans Revolutionary France
    1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.35 - LM_306_T

    167. Post-Reconquista Granada
    1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.58 - I7425


    177. Post-Reconquista Granada
    1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.77 - I3809

    192. Relic French King Louis XVI
    1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.27 - LXVI

    213. Marseilles Plague Victim
    1721 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.64 - OBS116

    226. Jean-Paul Marat Revolutionary France
    1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.92 - Marat

    338. Oxford Infirmiary
    1790 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.25 - CSD

    349. Late Medieval Latvia Riga Dome Church
    1622 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.52 - RG161c
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    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post


    Now that I have been updated I am number one with a trophy with this sample. I am not really sure but that date seems to fit the time when the Vikings were in what is now Andalusia and it is documented that an undetermined group of Viking prisoners had to settle in the area; although how to know if it is the origin or is another. E1b1b1a1b1a - Viking Age Bogovej Langeland Denmark (VK362)

    In Medieval Ages I have these results

    Medieval Age

    5. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    880 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.193 - I10895

    14. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.71 - I10852

    25. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.65 - I10851

    26. Medieval Villa Magna Italy
    990 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.72 - R63

    28. Late Medieval L'Esquerda Spain
    1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.81 - T-145-2

    30. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
    1485 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.94 - R1221

    47. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
    1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.0 - VK265

    63. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.64 - I10853

    67. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
    1429 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.84 - R1289

    76. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
    1355 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.06 - R55


    In modern times these are my results:
    Early Modern Period

    22. Le Mans Revolutionary France
    1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.51 - LM_406_T

    120. Marseilles Plague Victim
    1721 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.24 - OBS137

    156. Le Mans Revolutionary France
    1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.35 - LM_306_T

    167. Post-Reconquista Granada
    1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.58 - I7425


    177. Post-Reconquista Granada
    1550 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.77 - I3809

    192. Relic French King Louis XVI
    1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.27 - LXVI

    213. Marseilles Plague Victim
    1721 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.64 - OBS116

    226. Jean-Paul Marat Revolutionary France
    1793 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.92 - Marat

    338. Oxford Infirmiary
    1790 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.25 - CSD

    349. Late Medieval Latvia Riga Dome Church
    1622 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.52 - RG161c
    This sample is also on Yfull:



    (R1A)

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/r1a/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    This sample is also on Yfull:



    (R1A)

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/r1a/
    Yes I had read somewhere that it had been introduced in Y full

    Although all this is largely autosomal my results with my own haplogroup are these:

    E1b1b1a1b1 - Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10853)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (I7498)
    E1b1b1b1a1 - Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (I12644)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada (I7457)
    E1b - Medieval Tyrolian (SZ18)
    E1b1b1a - Early Medieval Iberia Granada (I3981)
    E1b1b1b1a1 - Medieval Taifa of Valencia (I12649)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Hungary Late Avar Szekkutas-Kapolnadulo (SzKper239)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (R1219)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Viking Age Bogovej Langeland Denmark (VK362)
    E1b1b1b1 - Post-Reconquista Granada (I3807)

    For example my outliers after Christ are these:

    348. Late Roman Iberia Granada
    470 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.51 - I3576
    Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

    373. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.03 - R32
    Ancient Greek + Thracian (4.339)

    384. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.29 - SZ43
    Roman (Genetic match)

    388. Germanic Mixed Tribe
    505 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.35 - AED125b
    Celt + Gaul (10.61)

    389. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix
    410 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.37 - STR_328
    Celt + Sarmatian (5.804)

    390. Byzantine Roman Warrior
    605 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.4 - NS3b
    Gaul + Roman (8.486)

    416. Roman Villa Granada Spain
    350 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.91 - I3983
    Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

    429. Carthago-Iberian-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate
    Roman Hispania + Phoenician (10.06)

    448. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.62 - SZ36
    Roman (Genetic match)

    451. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.67 - R120
    Illyrian + Carthaginian (8.755

    460. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance
    1650 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.77 - R970
    Roman + Illyrian (5.741)

    462. Roman Empire Monterotondo
    165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.8 - R1540
    Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (6.097)

    463. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona
    165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.81 - R836
    Philistine + Roman (9.784)

    472. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.93 - R113
    Roman + Phoenician (7.366)

    474. Danish Gaelic Viking Iceland
    935 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.94 - SSG-A2
    Celt (Genetic match)

    475. Celtic Medieval Denmark
    1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.95 - G973
    Celt (6.145)
    Viking Danish + Celt (6.439)


    479. Roman Mix San Ercolano
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.02 - R118
    Thracian + Illyrian (6.652)
    Roman + Illyrian (6.785)


    480. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.03 - SZ31
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (7.168)

    484. Germanic Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
    1500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.1 - SNN001
    Alemanni + Ligurian (9.743)
    Alemanni + Frank (10.91)


    487. Nordic Lombard
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.14 - SZ14
    Viking Danish + Longobard (4.033)

    491. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
    550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.2 - I12031
    Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a (L142.1)
    Scythian + Gaul (6.59)
    Scythian + Frank (7.649)
    Scythian + Thuringii (7.837)
    Gaul (8.718)
    Visigoth + Scythian (8.924)
    Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a (L142.1)
    Gaul + Thuringii (8.966)
    Thuringii (11.34)
    Scythian (11.65)
    Frank (11.78)
    Visigoth (13.6)


    493. Visigoth Germanic Girona
    550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.28 - I12163
    Visigoth (Genetic match)

    494. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen
    950 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.32 - KT32
    Celt + Belgae (4.283)

    498. Germanic Lombard
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.42 - SZ42
    Celt + Saxon (2.721)
    Viking Danish + Celt (3.032)



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    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Yes I had read somewhere that it had been introduced in Y full

    Although all this is largely autosomal my results with my own haplogroup are these:

    E1b1b1a1b1 - Girona Sant Julia de Ramis (I10853)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Iberian Cordoba Caliphate (I7498)
    E1b1b1b1a1 - Hispano-Roman Taifa of Valencia (I12644)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada (I7457)
    E1b - Medieval Tyrolian (SZ18)
    E1b1b1a - Early Medieval Iberia Granada (I3981)
    E1b1b1b1a1 - Medieval Taifa of Valencia (I12649)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Hungary Late Avar Szekkutas-Kapolnadulo (SzKper239)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (R1219)
    E1b1b1a1b1a - Viking Age Bogovej Langeland Denmark (VK362)
    E1b1b1b1 - Post-Reconquista Granada (I3807)

    For example my outliers after Christ are these:

    348. Late Roman Iberia Granada
    470 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.51 - I3576
    Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

    373. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.03 - R32
    Ancient Greek + Thracian (4.339)

    384. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.29 - SZ43
    Roman (Genetic match)

    388. Germanic Mixed Tribe
    505 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.35 - AED125b
    Celt + Gaul (10.61)

    389. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix
    410 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.37 - STR_328
    Celt + Sarmatian (5.804)

    390. Byzantine Roman Warrior
    605 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.4 - NS3b
    Gaul + Roman (8.486)

    416. Roman Villa Granada Spain
    350 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.91 - I3983
    Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

    429. Carthago-Iberian-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate
    Roman Hispania + Phoenician (10.06)

    448. Central Roman
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.62 - SZ36
    Roman (Genetic match)

    451. Carthago-Roman San Ercolano
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.67 - R120
    Illyrian + Carthaginian (8.755

    460. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance
    1650 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.77 - R970
    Roman + Illyrian (5.741)

    462. Roman Empire Monterotondo
    165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.8 - R1540
    Hellenic Roman + Roman Hispania (6.097)

    463. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona
    165 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.81 - R836
    Philistine + Roman (9.784)

    472. Carthago Outlier Roman Empire VP
    100 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.93 - R113
    Roman + Phoenician (7.366)

    474. Danish Gaelic Viking Iceland
    935 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.94 - SSG-A2
    Celt (Genetic match)

    475. Celtic Medieval Denmark
    1250 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.95 - G973
    Celt (6.145)
    Viking Danish + Celt (6.439)


    479. Roman Mix San Ercolano
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.02 - R118
    Thracian + Illyrian (6.652)
    Roman + Illyrian (6.785)


    480. Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.03 - SZ31
    Gallo-Roman + Roman (7.168)

    484. Germanic Medieval Duomo San Nicola Sardinia
    1500 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.1 - SNN001
    Alemanni + Ligurian (9.743)
    Alemanni + Frank (10.91)


    487. Nordic Lombard
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.14 - SZ14
    Viking Danish + Longobard (4.033)

    491. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
    550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.2 - I12031
    Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a (L142.1)
    Scythian + Gaul (6.59)
    Scythian + Frank (7.649)
    Scythian + Thuringii (7.837)
    Gaul (8.718)
    Visigoth + Scythian (8.924)
    Y-DNA: E1b1b1a1b1a (L142.1)
    Gaul + Thuringii (8.966)
    Thuringii (11.34)
    Scythian (11.65)
    Frank (11.78)
    Visigoth (13.6)


    493. Visigoth Germanic Girona
    550 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.28 - I12163
    Visigoth (Genetic match)

    494. Medieval Ireland Kilteasheen
    950 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.32 - KT32
    Celt + Belgae (4.283)

    498. Germanic Lombard
    590 AD - Genetic Distance: 24.42 - SZ42
    Celt + Saxon (2.721)
    Viking Danish + Celt (3.032)



    How do you see it?
    Well you're E-V22 which means it was probably introduced in Iberia during Phoenician or Roman rule and not later as E-V22 is very rare in North-West Africa (its Middle Eastern/Egyptian). Autosomally-wise you're just 'purely' Iberian and its not weird for Iberians to have high genetic afinity with Northern European peoples as is manifested in your MTA results. Celtic, Alemani, Visigoths also share common origins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Three of my last new Deep Dives at MTA








    And new matches:

    And new matches. Let's see if I don't repeat because there are so many samples already, right

    12. Copper Age Alburg-Lerchenhaid Straubing Bavaria
    2225 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.46 - I3590

    38. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.45 - MOK15

    43. Copper Age Prague Kobylisy Czech
    2220 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.67 - I4890

    45. Belgic Tribe Colmar France
    340 BC - Genetic Distance: 12.77 - COL153i

    47. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
    1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.0 - VK265

    48. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.15 - MOK10

    83. Early Medieval Germany Straubing-Bajuwarenstrasse
    520 AD - Genetic Distance: 14.28 - STR310

    90. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.5 - MOK18

    111. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.98 - MOK27

    137. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.8 - MOK20

    169. Bronze Age Early Celt Wartau Switzerland
    1651 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.66 - SX20

    174. East Smithfield Plague Victim London
    1349 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.75 - 8291

    178. Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada
    1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 16.9 - I7457

    179. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
    930 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.97 - R1

    201. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.49 - MOK14

    279. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 19.68 - MOK21

    303. Viking Settler Erik the Red Farm Greenland
    990 AD - Genetic Distance: 20.49 - VK193

    330. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 21.13 - MOK9

    345. Late Medieval Latvia Riga Dome Church
    1622 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.52 - RG161c

    346. Viking Age Bogovej Langeland Denmark
    900 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.53 - VK362

    354. Viking Age Kaargarden Denmark
    950 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.64 - VK276

    356. Celtic-Saxon Hinxton
    700 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.66 - HinxtonO2

    359. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
    1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.74 - VK269

    363. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
    1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 21.86 - VK267

    372. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.09 - MOK28

    382. Bronze Age Yarnton Oxfordshire England
    2290 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.33 - I2446

    383. Germanic Mixed Tribe
    505 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.35 - AED125b

    384. Ostrogoth Frankish Mix
    410 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.37 - STR_328

    385. Byzantine Roman Warrior
    605 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.4 - NS3b

    391. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
    1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.49 - MOK23

    393. Proto-Celtic Child Bronze Age Wehringen
    1957 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.53 - WEHR_1415child

    397. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
    1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.58 - VK266

    400. Germanic Tribe Crypta Balbi
    500 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.72 - R106

    402. Medieval Cambridge Plague Victim
    1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.74 - NMA003A

    403. Iberian El Argar Bronze Age
    1500 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.76 - I8136

    404. Bell Beaker England
    2150 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.82 - I1767

    412. Late Neolithic Auvernier Switzerland
    2734 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.94 - MX304

    414. Danish Viking Medieval Denmark
    1150 AD - Genetic Distance: 22.98 - G57

    416. Pre-Slav Medieval Poland
    1100 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.07 - PCA157_Mar6

    420. Bronze Age Valencia Lloma de Betxi
    1841 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.18 - I3997

    421. Medieval Denmark Odense
    1315 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.2 - G120

    423. Carthago-Iberian-Mehrebi Cordoba Caliphate
    950 AD - Genetic Distance: 23.22 - I7500

    424. Bronze Age Scotland
    1450 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.22 - I2653

    425. Copper Age Radovesice Czech
    2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.25 - I7211
    You're doing something wrong. There's no way anyone living can share that much with these samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gota_type_ View Post

    Pero que compartas 85cM con un vikingo me parece una burrada. Es una burrada e implicaría una cercanía en el tiempo relativamente corta (hablo de 300 años o menos).
    Desde mi total desconocimiento, ¿Cómo entonces explicas que yo comparta 79 cM con Oetzi si el murió hace miles de años?


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    All my matches with Viking.

    32 match is not bad at all
































































    And these are all my matches with Vikings at the moment.

    It is possible that there are more Deep Dives at times as you know they take a while to appear and then there is the question of the quality of the samples you know it depends on how complete they are we can lose a deep dive.




    P.S.: Be sure to visit my thread: Andalusians, you know it's one of the best around.

    The link is in my signature, thank you.
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    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaditanian View Post
    Desde mi total desconocimiento, ¿Cómo entonces explicas que yo comparta 79 cM con Oetzi si el murió hace miles de años?

    No sé qué compañía estáis utilizando ni sé qué metodología usa ni cuántos SNP´s meten para que den resultado por cM.

    Quizá si utilizáis gedmatch (Gallop tb debería mirarlo) podáis tener algo más convergente con el resto de españoles (quizá porque los de la compañía vuestra digan que hay similitud si en 5cM compartís 100snp´s, cuando por ej. en gedmatch hay matches cuando tienes más de 7cM y un mínimo de 300 SNP´s).

    Pero sí, es soprendente en ambos casos. En tu caso habría que ver si hay otros con esa compañía que dan más o menos que tú, o mucho menos. Es decir, cuál es la media normal de similitud de cualquier europeo actual con Oetzi.

    Así que haced un One-to-One con esos kits en gedmatch y a ver cuántos cM os salen. No sé si está Oetzi en gedmatch, pero sí sé que hay algunos vikingos. Hace siglos que no me meto en gedmatch.

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    How can be iberians a mix of west europe with iberians?

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    My results with the Medieval period



    Medieval Age

    5. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    880 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.193 - I10895
    Visigoth + Vascones (4.831)
    Visigoth + Aquitani (5.069)
    Vascones + Gallo-Roman (5.148)
    Visigoth (5.682)
    Visigoth + Iberian (5.797)
    Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (5.961)
    Iberian (7.783)
    Gallo-Roman (7.858)
    Vascones (8.07)
    Aquitani (8.091)

    14. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.71 - I10852
    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (4.475)
    Gallo-Roman (4.774)
    Visigoth + Ligurian (5.353)
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (5.486)
    Ligurian + Gallo-Roman (5.506)
    Iberian + Ligurian (5.63)
    Visigoth (6.01)
    Etruscan (7.744)
    Ligurian (8.599)
    Iberian (9.262)

    26. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.65 - I10851
    Visigoth + Rhaeti (4.057)
    Rhaeti + Etruscan (4.377)
    Gallo-Roman + Rhaeti (4.477)
    Rhaeti (5.019)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (5.231)
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (5.24)
    Etruscan (5.603)
    Gallo-Roman (6.206)
    Visigoth (6.235)
    Iberian (8.179)

    27. Medieval Villa Magna Italy
    990 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.72 - R63
    Ligurian + Etruscan (2.875)
    Visigoth + Ligurian (3.258)
    Gallo-Roman + Etruscan (3.335)
    Ligurian + Gallo-Roman (3.772)
    Ligurian + Rhaeti (3.798)
    Etruscan (4.463)
    Gallo-Roman (4.989)
    Visigoth (5.682)
    Ligurian (6.458)
    Rhaeti (8.053)

    29. Late Medieval L'Esquerda Spain
    1350 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.81 - T-145-2
    Visigoth + Al-Andalus (5.165)
    Al-Andalus + Etruscan (6.192)
    Al-Andalus + Gallo-Roman (6.212)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (6.346)
    Etruscan (6.767)
    Al-Andalus + Rhaeti (6.977)
    Visigoth (7.092)
    Rhaeti (8.971)
    Gallo-Roman (9.224)
    Al-Andalus (9.822)

    31. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
    1485 AD - Genetic Distance: 11.94 - R1221
    Etruscan + Frank (4.984)
    Gallo-Roman + Frank (5.626)
    Visigoth + Frank (5.863)
    Frank + Illyrian (6.655)
    Visigoth + Illyrian (7.606)
    Frank (9.022)
    Visigoth (9.948)
    Illyrian (10.22)
    Etruscan (10.54)
    Gallo-Roman (11.97)

    40. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
    1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 12.46 - VK146
    Ligurian + Frank (3.847)
    Visigoth + Frank (4.217)
    Frank (4.329)
    Gallo-Roman + Frank (4.471)
    Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (4.935)
    Visigoth + Ostrogoth (5.629)
    Visigoth (9.623)
    Gallo-Roman (11.08)
    Ligurian (11.36)
    Ostrogoth (11.57)

    49. Viking Age Karda Smaland Sweden
    1000 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.0 - VK265
    Belgae + Vascones (3.737)
    Belgae + Gallo-Roman (5.531)
    Celt + Vascones (5.706)
    Visigoth + Belgae (5.721)
    Celt + Gallo-Roman (6.038)
    Vascones (8.379)
    Visigoth (10.06)
    Belgae (10.3)
    Celt (11.1)
    Gallo-Roman (11.28)

    65. Girona Sant Julia de Ramis
    1060 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.64 - I10853
    Al-Andalus + Etruscan (5.522)
    Iberian + Al-Andalus (5.929)
    Visigoth + Etruscan (6.514)
    Rhaeti + Etruscan (6.795)
    Iberian + Etruscan (7.112)
    Etruscan (7.581)
    Rhaeti (9.529)
    Visigoth (9.978)
    Iberian (10.35)
    Al-Andalus (10.37

    69. Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
    1429 AD - Genetic Distance: 13.84 - R1289
    Iberian + Latin (2.215)
    Iberian + Vascones (2.655)
    Vascones + Latin (3.05)
    Iberian + Gallo-Roman (3.36)
    Iberian + Aquitani (3.566)
    Iberian (4.151)
    Vascones (6.005)
    Latin (7.087)
    Aquitani (8.718)
    Gallo-Roman (9.058)
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    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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