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    Hem Türkçüler Hem Kürtçüler bana karşı demek ki doğru söylüyorum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmakkmak View Post
    I do not want abuse you. I have no ethnic identity, I am opposing every nationalism including Kurdish nationalism.
    Tragic. If that is how you wish to be then that's up to you. But as Mustafa Barzani said, if you cannot serve your nation then at least do not betray it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halgurd View Post
    Tragic. If that is how you wish to be then that's up to you. But as Mustafa Barzani said, if you cannot serve your nation then at least do not betray it.
    Mustafa Barzani is nationalist but I am liberal-democrat. I no recognize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmakkmak View Post
    Mustafa Barzani is nationalist but I am liberal-democrat. I no recognize.
    To be Liberal-democrat you need to have a strong local tradition first not rely on foreign aid and secret missions with terrorist nations. Liberal democracy comes from very rich intellectual people who have some thing to show as their own so they are being liberal in their though process. How can some one like you (newspaper and chips seller) be liberal democrat ? Wake up. you can be socialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmakkmak View Post
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    Nobody forces you to die for turkishness. But accepting who you are, whether turk or non turk, is not the same thing like beeing nationalist. I know many of that kind of guys who claim the same, they sometimes more fascistic or the same as nationalist(btw not even that is always fascistic). Thanks god it isnt so bad in turkey like germany. Beeing proud of germany or just hoisting german flag is ultra right ideology for many backwarded guys. Racism and nationalism/patriotism must be distinguished.

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    I can’t help but lol at cultural Muslims who beat themselves up about religion but don’t even get up for the morning prayer.




    Whether Muslim, Jew, Christian or whatever. What a waste of Your limited time on earth to get dictated by ridiculous rules made by ignorant humans from ancient history. They (‘prophets’) are among the finest charlatans in history, have to hand that to them.

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    Turkish students increasingly resisting religion, study suggests

    Young people likely to challenge Islam and see themselves as less religious than previous generations

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    Despite more than a decade of efforts by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s ruling Justice and Development party (AKP) to mould a generation of pious Turks, the country’s youth appears to be turning away from religion.

    Turkey’s founder, Mustafa Kamal Atatürk, banished religion from public life, creating a secular, pro-western republic that broke with the Ottoman past. One hundred years later, Erdoğan has put Turkey back on a more religious and socially conservative path, aiming to create a “religious generation” that will “work for the construction of a new civilisation”. Some members of the opposition nickname him the “caliph in waiting”.

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    Yet a study by Sarkaya university and the ministry of education from earlier this year looking at religious curricula in Turkey’s school system found that students are “resisting compulsory religion lessons, the government’s ‘religious generation’ project and the concept of religion altogether”.

    Almost half of the teachers interviewed said their students were increasingly likely to describe themselves as atheists, deists or feminists, and challenge the interpretation of Islam being taught at school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapanuwa View Post
    What do you think about the reign of the Shah before the revolution? And do you think that Iran needs its own Atatürk and would you support the secularization of Iran the hard way? I think Iran is a beautiful country and would like to hear the opinion of an Iranian.
    I am not Iranian but reading the comments on this video, similar to reading the comments on this thread. This video might answer some of your questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altaic View Post
    I am not Iranian but reading the comments on this video, similar to reading the comments on this thread. This video might answer some of your questions.

    It seems many Iranians really miss the old Iran prior the revolution. I must say that I'm still conflicted because I have read that only the higher class of Iran had this freedom and wealth, ehich is often shown in videos about pre-Islamic Iran. My impression is that the diaspora Iranians and the youth are very 'nostalgic' and (sometimes extremely) liberal minded. Whereas, the elderly and 40+ year olds are pro Islamic Republic and very conservative. I truely hope the best for the people of Iran. Would love to visit one day.

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