How Roman are Iberians? Calculator G25 Scaled

[Jingle Bell]

Although that's tecnically right, theres's no need to think that the west is going to be totally different from all the surrounding regions.

West/Gallaecia/Lusitania were the part of Iberia with less contact with others "Low-Steppe" groups like Iberis or Vasconi, they preserved a very strong Hallsttat origin, and from the little we know they would be a bit more Steppe shfted than Celtiberis, we got the Conimbriga & Miroiço samples, which are Hispano-Roman samples from areas either Lusitani or Celtic habited, and even Conimbriga having abt to 20% Roman + NA & Miroiço about 40% they still scored more or at least abt Steppe as Celtiberi samples scored, my guess is as Miroico & Conumbriga are Roman/NA admixed and even with that scored ~28% Steppe, the "pure" Pre-Roman habitants of that area would be abt 30%+ imo, prob clustering some what Occitane or Northern Italy unlike more EEF shifted Basques, and its also important to remenber that Portuguese (better saying Galegus-Portugues) originated in Northern Galicia and that reconquistadores/settlers migrated south and most Portugueses prob descends more from that guys rather than the Muladi Pre-Reconquista population, so the "Celt" of that Portugueses descends are more likely part of Castro Culture/Gallaeci complex, that were more Hallstattized (at least culturally) than Lusitanians so thats also indicated that MAY also were more Central European loaded, but who knows

[Eurafricanid]

West/Gallaecia/Lusitania were the part of Iberia with less contact with others "Low-Steppe" groups like Iberis or Vasconi, they preserved a very strong Hallsttat origin, and from the little we know they would be a bit more Steppe shfted than Celtiberis, we got the Conimbriga & Miroiço samples, which are Hispano-Roman samples from areas either Lusitani or Celtic habited, and even Conimbriga having abt to 20% Roman + NA & Miroiço about 40% they still scored more or at least abt Steppe as Celtiberi samples scored, my guess is as Miroico & Conumbriga are Roman/NA admixed and even with that scored ~28% Steppe, the "pure" Pre-Roman habitants of that area would be abt 30%+ imo, prob clustering some what Occitane or Northern Italy unlike more EEF shifted Basques, and its also important to remenber that Portuguese (better saying Galegus-Portugues) originated in Northern Galicia and that reconquistadores/settlers migrated south and most Portugueses prob descends more from that guys rather than the Muladi Pre-Reconquista population, so the "Celt" of that Portugueses descends are more likely part of Castro Culture/Gallaeci complex, that were more Hallstattized (at least culturally) than Lusitanians so thats also indicated that MAY also were more Central European loaded, but who knows

Yeah, I know but they most likely weren't 35-40% yamnaya, they were probably more similar to this sample already present in the calculator, but a bit higher:

Target: Iberian_IA
Distance: 4.4102% / 0.04410245
54.0 ANF
27.4 Yamnaya
18.6 WHG

It's the one labeled as Spain_IA_Celt, there's also this other sample that I could've introduced as well:

Target: Spain_IA_Celt_o
Distance: 6.2328% / 0.06232808
54.6 ANF
29.2 Yamnaya
15.4 WHG
0.8 AASI

[Jingle Bell]

Yeah, I know but they most likely weren't 35-40% yamnaya, they were probably more similar to this sample already present in the calculator, but a bit higher:

Target: Iberian_IA
Distance: 4.4102% / 0.04410245
54.0 ANF
27.4 Yamnaya
18.6 WHG

It's the one labeled as Spain_IA_Celt, there's also this other sample that I could've introduced as well:

Target: Spain_IA_Celt_o
Distance: 6.2328% / 0.06232808
54.6 ANF
29.2 Yamnaya
15.4 WHG
0.8 AASI

No, 35% - 40% is Gaul level, i think 30% - 33% sounds nice, like abt or a bit more than modern portuguese score

[Eurafricanid]

No, 35% - 40% is Gaul level, i think 30% - 33% sounds nice, like abt or a bit more than modern portuguese score

I did a proxy with the Austrian_IA_LaTene and the Spain_IA_Celt samples, and now it's there, my results didn't change, so I won't update them.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 2.3815% / 0.02381493
83.6 Germanic
16.4 Imperial_Roman

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.1757% / 0.02175707
36.2 Iberian_IA
30.2 Germanic
24.0 Imperial_Roman
9.6 North_African

I don't think the current Iberian_IA (basque) sample is right for me, so other components are probably inflated.

Now you can test with a more appropriate Iberian_IA profile, since the Gallaecian proxy is now added.

[Jingle Bell]

For those wondering the results in qpAdm:
(Not all models have actually passed, meaning that some component is lacking or smth)

As its visible in Article the average would be about 50% Iberian, 45% Roman & 5% Northern African, no Germanic samples were used so we dont know if they would score.

Also @eupator (Here the link of his thread:https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...mparison/page3, credits to him for making the model)
did a 3-way model using similar samples, but at target "Conimbriga, MonteDaNora, Miroiço and Miroiço_O", and the results are pretty similar to what we see in article:

in g25 with @Eurafricanid model the same groups used as target as in article result (just the groups that actually passed in 3-way model)
Without Germanic:

[Jingle Bell]

Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 1.5008% / 0.01500776
44.8 SSA
26.4 Iberian_IA
16.4 Imperial_Roman
6.0 North_African
3.8 Germanic
2.6 Amerindian

[Eurafricanid]

Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 1.5008% / 0.01500776
44.8 SSA
26.4 Iberian_IA
16.4 Imperial_Roman
6.0 North_African
3.8 Germanic
2.6 Amerindian

Target: Eurafricanid_scaled
Distance: 0.7189% / 0.00718946
47.2 SSA
28.4 Iberian_IA
16.8 Imperial_Roman
4.8 Germanic
2.8 Amerindian


Bruh!

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02375461 Germanic
0.03372748 Germanic
0.06665448 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy
0.07231842 Iberian_IA
0.09018698 Iberian_IA
0.09212197 Iberian_IA
0.14118973 Imperial_Roman
0.15761756 Imperial_Roman
0.15839769 Imperial_Roman
0.16913060 Imperial_Roman
0.17159190 Imperial_Roman
0.25578916 North_African
0.29024568 North_African

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.2645% / 0.02264503
59.2 Germanic
35.8 Germanic
4.2 Imperial_Roman
0.8 Iberian_IA:Gallaeci_Proxy