Stearsolina best friend DNA results!

[Jana]

He is way more Hungarian than many of the Hungarian TA members lol. Including me!

Yeah, there's a big overlap with Magyars. Hungarian Alfold is closest region to me for example in K13.

[Lucas]

I clearly have some distant Ashkenazi ancestor after all but I can't identify which one could it be sadly despite knowing most of my genealogy up to ~1770. And 23andme tells me he / she probably lived in early 18th century. Maybe there was some non-paternity event somewhere down the line or even an adoption.

If it is one ancestor from that century it is less then 0.5%. How many you have on 23me?

I recently checked more deeply my lines on Geneteka and at first find possible Jewish mother (surname Icek) of my greatgrategreat...grandfather born in 1766. But after checking more it was revealed she was second wife of his father (marriage in 1768) and his real mother (first wife of father) died in 1768 too. Even if it would be real probably would be erased from my genome completely after such time.

[RogueState]

Just out of curiosity, where would rank the first Italian subgroup (I guess Northeast Italian from Friuli-Veneto-Trieste) in terms of closest genetical populations ?

It seems at first sight not even in the top 30 ! Shocking

This has always amazed me, such neighbouring populations within small Europe to be that much distant, like how would one guess that before human population studies, that an Istrian Croat would be closer to a Russian, German, Dutch, Pole than an Italian from Trieste

It blows my mind tbh

[Peterski]

If it is one ancestor from that century it is less then 0.5%. How many you have on 23me?

I recently checked more deeply my lines on Geneteka and at first find possible Jewish mother (surname Icek) of my greatgrategreat...grandfather born in 1766. But after checking more it was revealed she was second wife of his father (marriage in 1768) and his real mother (first wife of father) died in 1768 too. Even if it would be real probably would be erased from my genome completely after such time.

And how much AJ do you score on 23andMe?

[Roy]

If it is one ancestor from that century it is less then 0.5%. How many you have on 23me?

I recently checked more deeply my lines on Geneteka and at first find possible Jewish mother (surname Icek) of my greatgrategreat...grandfather born in 1766. But after checking more it was revealed she was second wife of his father (marriage in 1768) and his real mother (first wife of father) died in 1768 too. Even if it would be real probably would be erased from my genome completely after such time.

What do you mean by how many? I have 0.2% Ashenazi or 0.5% of Lecantine per 23andme.

[Jana]

Just out of curiosity, where would rank the first Italian subgroup (I guess Northeast Italian from Friuli-Veneto-Trieste) in terms of closest genetical populations ?

It seems at first sight not even in the top 30 ! Shocking

This has always amazed me, such neighbouring populations within small Europe to be that much distant, like how would one guess that before human population studies, that an Istrian Croat would be closer to a Russian, German, Dutch, Pole than an Italian from Trieste

It blows my mind tbh

In K13 Italian Friuli-Venezia Giulia is his closest Italian population, and comes at 107th place

Spoiler!

Distance to: Daki
3.38062124 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
3.54770348 Hungarian
3.58131261 Croat_North
3.58623758 Slovenian
4.10040242 Hungarian_Alföld
4.12889816 Hungarian_North
4.91925807 Croat
5.55677064 Croat_West
5.64707889 Slovak
5.76584773 Croat_East
6.49922303 Poland_Lemko
6.53209002 Czech
6.76053992 Bosniak_Bosnia
7.23047025 Csángó-Ceangău
7.27678500 Croat_South
7.47828857 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
7.62781096 Ukrainian_Carpathian
7.71464840 Austrian
8.30865212 Bosniak
8.31888214 German_East
8.44655551 Moldova_North
8.63032444 Ukrainian_Galicia
8.86022009 Romania_Moldavia_North
9.01389483 Serb_Bosnia
9.22187616 Romania_Maramures
9.57278434 Serb_Croatia
9.82498855 Serb_Serbia_West
9.94526018 Moldova_Centre
10.14883737 Sorb_Lusatia
10.21976516 Moldova_Ukrainian
10.23643493 Moldova_average
10.24666287 South_Polish
10.48544706 Serb
10.69534011 Serb_Serbia_Central
11.01508057 Polish_Southeast
11.09176722 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
11.57318020 Polish_Silesia
11.68537548 Romania_Crisana
11.78161704 Polish_Lesser_Poland
11.84510447 Polish_North_Wielkopolska
11.99673706 Serb_Herzegovina
12.38814756 Serb_Serbia_South
12.44275693 Polish_Greater_Poland
12.51762358 Polish_GreaterPoland
12.89784090 Polish_Lower_Silesia
12.96997687 Romania_Moldavia_South
13.22383832 Romania_Transylvania
13.50030000 Polish_Silesia
13.55685435 Montenegrin
13.67837344 Romania_average
13.80446667 Polish_Kielce
13.80446667 Polish_Kielce
13.98699396 Romania_Banat
14.08514111 German
14.21725712 Polish_WarmiaMasuria
14.21725712 Polish_Masuria
14.47423919 Ukrainian
14.55215448 Serb_Southern_Montenegro
14.60042123 Polish_Staropolska
14.64019126 Moldova_South
14.66624355 Polish
14.92531407 Polish_Mazovia
14.95723571 French_Alsace
15.07412684 Polish_Kujawy
15.29308340 Romania_Oltenia
15.29588507 Swiss_German
15.33114477 Polish_Mazovia
15.41848890 Bosniak_Sandzak
15.44368803 German_South
15.72637275 Bulgaria_Northwestern
15.73642272 Polish_Podlaskie
15.94253117 Romania_Wallachia
15.98743256 Swiss_French
15.98943401 Romania_Dobruja
16.07594787 Polish_Podlaskie
16.14850457 Russian_Southwest
16.16611889 Romania_Muntenia
16.29305987 Swiss_German2
16.45179625 Bulgaria_Southwestern
16.49564488 German_West
17.24207354 Polish_Kuyavia
17.35098268 Pennsylvania_Dutch
17.40491884 Bulgaria_average
17.46803652 Russian_Ryazan
17.64613839 Bulgaria_Northcentral
17.73217979 Afrikaner
17.75661004 Russian_Smolensk
18.22328181 North_German
18.26030668 Pomak_Bulgaria
18.39493680 Belgian
18.40098367 French_Northeast
18.44935500 Flemish
18.44985908 Bulgaria_Southcentral
18.47166749 Bulgaria_Northeastern
18.52938477 Southwest_Finnish
18.54536600 Russian_average
18.62081631 Macedonian-East
18.65483851 Belorussian
18.74996800 Belarusian_Minsk
18.88370462 Dutch_South
19.05593608 Sweden_Svealand_East
19.06394503 Macedonian-North
19.19683568 North-Swedish
19.38122803 German_Northwest
19.44562933 Pomak_Greece
19.91133848 Swedish
20.30615916 Italian_Friuli_VG
20.33481743 Russian_Kostroma
20.42191225 Mordovian
20.47883542 Italian_Trentino

At Dodecad K12b Italian Friuli VG is his closest population at 65th place.

Spoiler!

Distance to: Daki
2.72422466 Slovenian
3.04772046 Hungarian_North
3.09670793 Croat
3.73535808 Hungarian_Alföld
3.87165339 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
4.12760221 Hungarian
4.44127234 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.07048321 Czech
5.15783869 Slovak
5.22505502 Croat_South
6.69462471 Bosnian
7.16702867 Moldovan_North
8.10491209 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
8.87297019 Sorb_Lusatia
9.38839709 German
9.69385372 Moldovan_Central
10.26610929 Serb
10.81807746 Ukrainian
11.19179163 Polish
11.87980640 Bavarian_German
12.56943913 German_Northwest
12.75973746 Polish_Warmia-Masuria
12.77518297 Polish_Mazovia
12.90101159 Russian_Oryol
12.93610451 Dutch
13.29379931 Russian_Voronezh
13.44902227 Russian_Ryazan
13.51081049 Russian_Kursk
13.56508754 Belgian
13.64998901 Belorussian
14.01236597 Montenegrin
14.06059387 Austrian_Tyrol
14.15099643 Russian_Smolensk
14.18630678 Swedish
14.60707363 Danish
14.75790974 Swiss_German
14.88847205 Swiss_French
15.12817570 Norwegian
15.15503217 Belarusian_Minsk
15.35019544 English_South
15.40605400 Icelandic
15.57672944 English
15.59982692 Russian
15.63966112 Mordovian
15.72527265 English_North
16.06199552 Romanian
16.14175021 French_Northwest
16.18180769 French_Northeast
16.44427256 Russian_Tver
16.45558568 French_North
16.64926425 Scottish
16.73335292 Moldovan_South
16.85372659 Bulgarian_West
17.58304581 Tatar_Mishar
17.62364888 Irish
18.04192617 Pomak_Bulgaria
18.13811181 Russian_Kostroma
18.49665375 Bulgarian_Central
19.27964471 Russian_Ural
19.67116163 Macedonian_Polog
19.78973219 Pomak_Greece
19.91612663 North_Russian
20.39478855 Macedonian_East
20.54710442 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
20.64604563 Bulgarian_East
20.78848239 Italian_Friuli_VG
20.80904371 Moldovan_Gagauz
21.35181491 Italian_Trentino
21.47141821 Russian_Northern_Dvina
21.64843643 Estonian

But keep in mind Istrians can be much more southern shifted than people in Primorje/Kvarner Bay.

[RogueState]

107 and 65, unbelievable wow

I even see Iceland before them...

Even if your friend is Northern shifted, I think the average or even more southern shifted would still rank after 25th position, no ?

[Jana]

107 and 65, unbelievable wow

I even see Iceland before them...

Even if your friend is Northern shifted, I think the average or even more southern shifted would still rank after 25th position, no ?

Yes. Croats (from any region) genetically far away from any kind of Italians.

But you can model them with Italians well. My friend for example:

Target: Daki
Distance: 2.2226% / 2.22256695 | R2P

64.9 Polish_Mazovia
35.1 Italian_Veneto

[Lucas]

What do you mean by how many? I have 0.2% Ashenazi or 0.5% of Lecantine per 23andme.

Ok this. So I was right about percentages...

[Peterski]

I have 0.2% Ashenazi or 0.5% of Lecantine per 23andme.

Or ???

You mean 0.2% AJ and 0.5% Levantine?

So in total 0.7%.