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    I thought ayyubi was mix of Kurdish-Arabic and Turkic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raslen3 View Post
    Just something to add

    "During the negotiations relating to the investiture to the Fatimid vizierate, 'Isâ al-Hakkârî, a Kurd, persuaded Qutb al-Dîn Tulayl to drop his candidacy in favor of Saladin: “Saladin and you are both from the same group. He is from a kurdish origin (inna aslahu min al-akrâd). Then you won’t let the power pass to the Turks. He promised to increase his income. So he obeyed Saladin (atâ‘ahu)”" Ibn Khallikân, Kitâb wafayât al-a‘yân wa anbâ’Abnâ’ al-zamân, vol. 7, p. 153, 155

    So it is obvious his Kurdish origin did effect him in his life. Keep in mind though the absolute majority of his population (and army) was Arab and he lived among Arabs for most of his life, so he was a pretty Arabized Kurd which is why many Arabs still hold him in high regard as a symbol of Arab unity.

    Yes Turkmens discriminated a lot against Kurds and Arabs and held themselves in high regard. However Salahaddin was able to change that and humbled them.

    The Ayyubids were very dynastic in the sense that he gave a lot of positions of power to his family, which is why a lot of Kurds ended up in high level positions both in religion and military.

    But ofc as you said the large bulk of the population were ethnic Arabs and he was able to bring them under the Ayyubid banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halgurd View Post
    The comments on that video are cancerous

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    Saladin was buried in Damascus. Maybe they can check his DNA!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    The comments on that video are cancerous
    A lot of people who first learn about him forget the message he tried to spread. Yes Al Quds belongs to Islam but he also taught us that we should be tolerant of other peoples faiths and beliefs. That is what makes him difference from the other Islamic leaders of his time.

    He died with no money to his name, despite being the Sultan of the richest land in the world at the time, because he gave most of it away in charity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eline View Post
    Saladin was buried in Damascus. Maybe they can check his DNA!
    Unfortunately a lot of Ayyubid heritage in Syria has been destroyed because of the war. I am hoping that his tomb is still in tact.

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    Btw, Saladin was very good for the Jews. Kurds were the ruling elite in the Levant and Egypt for hundreds of years. They had a lot land/property in Israel/Palestina.

    Jews bought 50 years ago a lot land in Israel/Palestina from the Kurdish owners, since most of the land in Israel was owned by the Kurdish descendants of Saladin> Jews should never forget that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eline View Post
    Btw, Saladin was very good for the Jews. Kurds were the ruling elite in the Levant and Egypt for hundreds of years. They had a lot land/property in Israel/Palestina.

    Jews bought 50 years ago a lot land in Israel/Palestina from the Kurdish owners, since most of the land in Israel was owned by the Kurdish descendants of Saladin> Jews should never forget that.
    Interesting. Didn't know that

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