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    Quote Originally Posted by korabi View Post
    Why did russia them starve six million ukrainians.I know history pretty well and more than half of ukraine had polish influence.Stalin starved six million ukrainians and replaced with russian immigrants.
    Russian made them starve?.. That year was terrible, the harvest was the poorest, people died of hunger all over the ex-USSR. It is that only Ukraine tends to cry out their woe so loudly now. My grandmother (a Lviv Ukrainian-born girl) happened to live Tula (Russia, not far away from Moscow) that time. She says they starved terribly and 2 of her siblings died. There was just nothing to do. Due to an abnormal lack of rains, the ground became too dry to even be meliorated (with what they had at that moment). If they had to give some of the harvest to the state, it was done only to feed big CITIES, where people, as we all know, don't usually grow food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictriX View Post
    Russian made them starve?.. That year was terrible, the harvest was the poorest, people died of hunger all over the ex-USSR. It is that only Ukraine tends to cry out their woe so loudly now. My grandmother (a Lviv Ukrainian-born girl) happened to live Tula (Russia, not far away from Moscow) that time. She says they starved terribly and 2 of her siblings died. There was just nothing to do. Due to an abnormal lack of rains, the ground became too dry to even be meliorated (with what they had at that moment). If they had to give some of the harvest to the state, it was done only to feed big CITIES, where people, as we all know, don't usually grow food.
    STOP LYING!! Holodomor in Ukrainian means "killing through famine". Holodomor was an artificial famine. In this period Sovietic soldiers sent by Stalin stole from Ukrainian peasants their food as well as weapons to avoid a rebellion.
    By this method the following estimates suggest that a number of approx. 6 million people were killed. None knows the exact number because Stalin forbidden to make census for various decades.

    Don't trust these Russian liers, they live in a country where history is retouched here and there: on any history book you can read the right story or just goodle "holodomor".

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictriX View Post
    Russian made them starve?.. That year was terrible, the harvest was the poorest, people died of hunger all over the ex-USSR. It is that only Ukraine tends to cry out their woe so loudly now. My grandmother (a Lviv Ukrainian-born girl) happened to live Tula (Russia, not far away from Moscow) that time. She says they starved terribly and 2 of her siblings died. There was just nothing to do. Due to an abnormal lack of rains, the ground became too dry to even be meliorated (with what they had at that moment). If they had to give some of the harvest to the state, it was done only to feed big CITIES, where people, as we all know, don't usually grow food.
    Ahahahahahah! Jesus Christ you are fucked and you neither know. A part from the fact that in Russia Holodomor was not applied, but one thing you said is true: when there were charesties Russia stole food to peasants to nurish Moskow and some other big cities. But what was made in Ukraine is an other story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revealman View Post
    Ok one thing mate, most of the things that are showed as "slavic" in the video were actually invented in the West ( flute, opera and sailboat is probably Egyptian).
    Dancing around the fire was an IE rythual, also Celts and Italics did it.
    On the other hand homosexuals extist also at East, if you don't want to give them rights it's your issue (btw in Italy they don't have much rights even if Italy is western. Homosexuals here can't marry and are not recognized as a couple). But so far it's you who are floating us with immigrants not the contrary.

    Miscegination is a personal choice of every individual, on the other hand some dictators like Stalin moved huge masses of people thousands of km far from their home to mix genes and create a nation without nationalities (ops, sorry, I used the wrong word, they were deported). How did Ukrainians finish in Vladivostock for example?
    Simple: one day some thousands of slavs decided to stop dancing around the fire and planned to arrive until Japan by walking. Oh yes! Cool story bro'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detfri View Post
    STOP LYING!! Holodomor in Ukrainian means "killing through famine". Holodomor was an artificial famine. In this period Sovietic soldiers sent by Stalin stole from Ukrainian peasants their food as well as weapons to avoid a rebellion.
    By this method the following estimates suggest that a number of approx. 6 million people were killed. None knows the exact number because Stalin forbidden to make census for various decades.

    Don't trust these Russian liers, they live in a country where history is retouched here and there: on any history book you can read the right story or just goodle "holodomor".
    You say you are Italian. So I doubt YOUR grandparents came though this.
    You can call "holodomor" whatever but it doesn't mean that you are right. Even almost none of the Western countries acknowledges "holodomor" as an artificial fact.
    I can also claim that the Great Plague was caused by Nigeria's secret weapons, but it will hardly mean this is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictriX View Post
    Even almost none of the Western countries acknowledges "holodomor" as an artificial fact
    That's because the holocaust can't be dethroned by another genocide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detfri View Post
    STOP LYING!! Holodomor in Ukrainian means "killing through famine". Holodomor was an artificial famine. In this period Sovietic soldiers sent by Stalin stole from Ukrainian peasants their food as well as weapons to avoid a rebellion.
    By this method the following estimates suggest that a number of approx. 6 million people were killed. None knows the exact number because Stalin forbidden to make census for various decades.

    Don't trust these Russian liers, they live in a country where history is retouched here and there: on any history book you can read the right story or just goodle "holodomor".
    no, just some managers and willage headers prefered got all harvest ang big bonuses and hunger and mass death after. And all that managers were the same hohols (ukrainians) as other peoples. For example, in village of my grands was a good header, so they hadn't any hunger.

    Detfry, you know nothing about us, so stop lie and post ypur shit

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