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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    Quotes from Wikipedia (!) about "bloody communism", ignoring the crimes of capitalism, the wars it started, genocides and robberies of entire countries, which continue to this day and are still not condemned. About private prisons, international drug trafficking, trafficking in people and their organs, as well as about "effective optimizations" from Schwab, Gates and their owners, I am silent. The main thing is to present it under the sauce of caring for humanity in the media. Even unemployment is considered the norm by capitalism, Karl! "So God decided."
    And ignoring the fact that an agrarian country can become the second superpower in the world in 15-20 years by using ineffective socialism (1929-53). Yes, so ineffective that huge amounts of money are still being spent on propaganda against a no longer existing system, fearing its revival.
    Indeed, we'd better stop.
    If you count crimes, then soc/com are responsible for every theft in the history of the universe lol. No system is perfect, but only soc/com can manage to cause 55 million deaths in 2 years(just in China alone, +15 mil in Soviet '22-'52, + 3.4 mil in Cambodia '75-'79) and steal 18 500 000 square kilometers of land(in Russia+China) everyone paid for, that's almost 2x Europe or 1/3 of Asia.
    It's funny that you mention human trafficking, because right now, the report from 2021 by the U.S. department of state says that 4 of 11 states directly involved in human trafficking are China, Cuba, Eritrea and North Korea(also Russia and Turkmenistan, both part of Soviet before). That's 36% of all state-run human trafficking, but currently only 16% of all governments in the world are either socialist, communist or ruled by soc/com parties.

    https://www.state.gov/wp-content/upl...l_20210701.pdf



    And 8 of the 17 Tier-3 human trafficking countries are soc/com or ruled by soc/com parties.



    So 16% of all countries are 47% of the most responsible for human trafficking.

    And the Russian empire was a superpower before Soviet. In fact it was larger than Soviet. Even China was larger before PRC. So even there soc/com ruined it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SneedsFeedNSeed View Post
    No system is perfect, but only soc/com can manage to cause 55 million deaths in 2 years(just in China alone, +15 mil in Soviet '22-'52, + 3.4 mil in Cambodia '75-'79)...
    I haven't read all of your argument with Kirill, but I'd like to ask you not to underestimate the effect of the Covid bio-terroristic attack combined with economical crysys, unhealthy food etc.
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    I haven't read all of your argument with Kirill, but I'd like to ask you not to underestimate the effect of the Covid bio-terroristic attack combined with economical crysys, unhealthy food etc.
    Does our unvaccinated bloodline make us to distant brothers, dear Rumata?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    I haven't read all of your argument with Kirill, but I'd like to ask you not to underestimate the effect of the Covid bio-terroristic attack combined with economical crysys, unhealthy food etc.
    Death by McDonald's



    "Police have confirmed a drive-thru eating has occurred on 46th Down Street this evening.
    Witnesses say the suspect drove away on a rascal with an oxygen tank and is still at large with a Big Mac and a large fries.
    "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Wait, we talked about "a Soviet subversion", didn't we? I don't care if your feminists are real Marxists of fake ones. I'm not much into Marxism, you know. I admit you could know more about Karl Marx, who was a Londoner most of his adult life, than I do.
    You're not much into Marxism but you support what was the flagship of Global Communism (and all it's derivatives: Feminism, Critical Theory) for 70 years. An anchor state without which these poisonous elements wouldn't have, and hadn't, gained much traction in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Not, this is a non-sense mantra I hear from not the first westerner. It's non-sense because:
    1. You have these tendencies (feminism, perversions etc etc) multiplied and much strengthened since your geopolitical enemy was defeated. And it's your "elites" who does it! You have the ideology your "elites" want you to have! Not the one you were "poisoned with by your defeated enemy" (what an idiocy). If it were only an "alien poison", your "elites" would "cure" it in no time. They want the opposite.
    2. Sure, the Western "elites" tried hard to collapse USSR. At least you could watch some Hollywood propaganda to know it. The fault of Soviet system was it didn't have an antidote against villains in power, not that it were much "unsustainable". SU was ruined by both inner and outer and well planned efforts.
    1. So if someone who gives you AIDS dies, you don't have AIDS anymore? The entire ideological framework of Communism is comparable to AIDS, and the Soviets died of their own AIDS after helping spread variants of it to the West.
    2. Western (((elites))) on Wall St financed the establishment of the USSR, and the West saved the Soviets in WWII from annihilation by the Germans. After which the Russians repaid the West with arming anti-Colonial non-white forces and supporting revolutionary Marxist elements to infiltrate Western institutions, which they have. The Soviet Union failed of its own merit, as every communist country has. We had a liberal society that allowed subversives from the other side, you didn't, so there's no excuse on that end. You didn't get Hollywood movies, which were mostly aimed at subverting and demoralising Western countries, often by communist/Jewish directors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    So is your rant only about the particular date? You don't mind American Women's day set in February?
    "The earliest version was purportedly a "Women's Day" organized by the Socialist Party of America in New York City February 28, 1909"
    The simple point was that International Womens Day, now a yearly feminist agitprop fest, is another thing we can attribute to the USSR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Does our unvaccinated bloodline make us to distant brothers, dear Rumata?
    Hopefully, our species of unvaccinated will never be restricted to a sole caste, bro Teutone.


    Quote Originally Posted by SneedsFeedNSeed View Post
    Death by McDonald's
    "Police have confirmed a drive-thru eating has occurred on 46th Down Street this evening.
    Witnesses say the suspect drove away on a rascal with an oxygen tank and is still at large with a Big Mac and a large fries.
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    I'm sorry for not getting it. Are you a fan of fast food?
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    I'm sorry for not getting it. Are you a fan of fast food?
    No, I was just joking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    KirillMazur will be the BitchKing of Moskau and i will be Saurina, what do you say?
    Good humor, I like it, I immediately put it in status. Honestly, I'm tired of the pointless ideological struggle here, maybe it's worth reviving the Lord of the Rings thread?
    Quote Originally Posted by SneedsFeedNSeed View Post
    If you count crimes, then soc/com are responsible for every theft in the history of the universe lol.
    Here Western propaganda has surpassed itself. I can't imagine how you can write this with a serious face. You're kidding me.
    Quote Originally Posted by SneedsFeedNSeed View Post
    No system is perfect
    This is the main takeaway from our discussion. We are wasting too much irreplaceable resource arguing over two long-dead (both cap/soc) systems (much earlier than 30 years ago in fact) that will never return in their old form. May God grant us or our children to see their more or less reasonable hybrid, which I always write here, criticizing pure formations.
    But do you agree that the problems in the world are somehow connected with the privatization of the world financial system by smart guys from the FRS, and the USSR in fact delayed the offensive of the Brave New World for 50+ years, although it was planned to be its flagship?
    Last edited by KirillMazur; 08-20-2021 at 12:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    But do you agree that the problems in the world are somehow connected with the privatization of the world financial system by smart guys from the FRS, and the USSR in fact delayed the offensive of the Brave New World for 50+ years, although it was planned to be its flagship?
    No lol.
    They were very open to processing people like robots. There were booklets and guidelines for how to raise kids, what to believe, what to value etc.
    And they were very open to immorality. Soviet decriminalized homosexuality in 1917, decades before many other countries. Prostitution wasn't banned until 1987, they made worker unions for them too at some point lol. They didn't criminalize using drugs as far as I'm aware, only selling it. The reason why it wasn't more widespread than it was, is because people were too poor to participate in most of it. And they primed people to immorality by marginalizing religion. Even today leftists don't think OnlyFans should be banned, they see no reason to stop immorality, because they threw away their religious values.
    Meanwhile, capitalist America at least tried to implement alcohol prohibition in 1920 as an improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    Quotes from Wikipedia (!) about "bloody communism", ignoring the crimes of capitalism, the wars it started, genocides and robberies of entire countries, which continue to this day and are still not condemned. About private prisons, international drug trafficking, trafficking in people and their organs, as well as about "effective optimizations" from Schwab, Gates and their owners, I am silent. The main thing is to present it under the sauce of caring for humanity in the media. Even unemployment is considered the norm by capitalism, Karl! "So God decided."
    And ignoring the fact that an agrarian country can become the second superpower in the world in 15-20 years by using ineffective socialism (1929-53). Yes, so ineffective that huge amounts of money are still being spent on propaganda against a no longer existing system, fearing its revival.
    Indeed, we'd better stop.
    Yes it is true that under Stalin Soviet Union become along with USA the most powerful country in the world. But you know perfectly the indescribable suffering that the Soviet people had to undergo. Maybe it was inevitable, i tend to believe this, but it is not something that you can be proud.

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