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    Ecofascism. Nature's above all humans, not the other way around. Doesn't matter your genetics, religion, political ideology, hobbies... You hurt nature in an extrim way, you should suffer the consequences
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    People like you are the reason why I am Ecofascist. I am just sick and tired of the evil in humanity. I dream about animals developing intelligence and just slaughtering all humans on this great planet that we are destroying

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimt View Post
    Authoritarian right of some sort. I unironically admire Hitler and European fascists. I'm somewhat of a white nationalist, but honestly, I would marry the right off-white guy if he showed a strong, masculine personality and genetics for brains and brawn. I think there needs to be a strong government to enforce morality because most people can't be trusted to make intelligent and informed decisions about what they have for breakfast (look at the obesity rates in Western countries and try to tell me that most people there have healthy decision-making skills...), much less who runs a country with millions of people in it. Democracy is very stupid for that reason too. In the US, it means that a barely literate black welfare queen with 8 illegitimate children, all with different fathers, who doesn't work for a living, has the exact same say in what happens to the country as an educated, healthy white person with a proper family and something to show for their work ethic. The only logical conclusion is that the worthless classes of society keep growing and eventually outvote the valuable classes of society, and yes, I believe some people are inherently useless. Quite frankly, that's ridiculous. I'm against mass immigration, race mixing is generally not acceptable to me (again, I make a few exceptions for off-white people), pornography and prostitution should be highly illegal, promiscuity is very wrong, Christianity is generally a very healthy religion for Europeans (granted it's not some retarded liberal Jew version with gay pride flags and a black female Jesus), hmm, what else. People should also be given incentives to have happy, healthy, proper, monoracial families, like what Hungary and Poland do, which is why I'm a fan of National Socialism. Abortion only in cases of rape, incest, and medical problems. I think some people ought to be sterilized. Hmm. I'm fine with debating any of this as long as the person I'm debating with doesn't go into full aggressive retard mode about it.
    People like you are the reason why I'm an Ecofascist. I am just sick and tired of the evil in humanity. Some times I dream about animals developing intelligence and just slaughtering all humans on this great planet that we are destroying

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    An update:

    Preferred Political System:
    Delegative res publica with elements of direct democracy. Devolve the country by delegating policing, healthcare, educationand social welfare to local government. Introduce binding corrective referendums, abandon proportional representation in favour of district voting and increase the people's power over the judiciary by replacing the Raad van State and the Hoge Raad der Nederlanden by an elected Supreme (Constitutional) Court. Further opt for trial by jury (no jury duty, juries should be voluntary) and grant courts the power to check laws on their constitutionality (repeal art. 120).

    Political and civil rights
    Free speech:
    Somewhat supportive (malicious slander, racist attacks on the honour of the native Dutch population, public degeneracy to the point that it endangers public order and morality and sedition should still be punishable by law)
    Freedom of private worship and conscience:
    Somewhat supportive (This should not apply to religions which endanger public order - such as Islam)
    Freedom of public worship:
    Somewhat opposed (only for the various strains of Christianity)
    Freedom of assembly:
    Somewhat supportive (with the exception of seditious groups which should be disrupted and any groups funded from abroad should be reviewed)
    Freedom of the press:
    Somewhat supportive (journalists, including citizen/investigative journalists (which will be given free reign), need to be members of the Nederlandsche Cultuurkamer which will receive a 25-year mandate to purge the Dutch press, the education system and the cultural life from all modernist tendencies and all left-wing journalists will be sacked and the media taken back from foreign owners with the ownership being as widely dispersed throughout society by means of taking the company to the stock exchange with the shares only being sold to Dutch citizens (rather than Dutch or foreign banks or corporations).
    Corporal/capital punishment: Somewhat supportive(should be on the books but never used).
    Universal suffrage: Somewhat opposed (suffrage should only be extended to men (minimum age 25). Only men over the age of 35 may stand for election.
    Compulsory voting: Somewhat opposed

    Nationalism/Internationalism
    Nationalism: Somewhat supportive
    (Don't get carried away: a silent pride will do ! Immigration will still be severely curtailed and most migrants should be repatriated but there should be no room for overtly aggressive displays of national pride. We're not a country of flag-wavers. Express your pride one brick at a time in each building you build, each canal you dig, each road you lay, each field you plow. Furthermore: disband the Kingdom of the Netherlands as a federation (retaining only the European Netherlands) and grant independence to the Caribbean Netherlands while those former subjects will not retain their Dutch citizenship).
    Internationalism:
    Neutral. (the Netherlands should be a signatory to most international organisations and join the EFTA at the expense of the EU, leave the UN and review continued Benelux membership).
    EU-membership (only for Europeans): Strongly opposed
    (They offer us no benefits but only more and more trouble. When we leave we should still retain our unilateral commitment to free inter-European roaming, the EHIC system, the Erasmus Programme, Europol and key research programs and seek to work multilaterally to set up a joint European pharmaceutical development and purchasing program in under to undermine Big Pharma)
    UN-membership:
    Strongly opposed
    (I'd prefer a League of Nations for Western nations and their key allies. Still, the Netherlands should retain the E-Road numbering system, we will also retain our unilateral commitment to most of their, non-social, organizations (such as UNESCO, ITU,UPU, ICAO and IAEA but accept their standards on our terms)
    NATO-membership: Neutral (favoring a national defense coupled with a Dutch nuclear program operating under a Samson Option)
    ZOG:
    Strongly opposed (all foreign agents will have to register as such and will be monitored by the intelligence services (and face deportation if caught acting against national interests). Espionage and working on behalf of another country, if not registered, should be, on paper, punishable by death. Dutch citizens who work on behalf of another country (such as Israel) or who try to undermine this country, will, on paper, face the death penalty since they are traitors when caught).

    The Military
    Militancy (as in supporting military operations abroad): Strongly opposed (Units may only be used to patrol the sea lanes and deal with lawless elements)
    Compulsory military service: Somewhat opposed
    Women in the armed forces: Strongly opposed

    Military Organisation:
    Merge the Army and Air Force into the Navy as an expanded Marine Corps and Naval Aviation Service to cut some glut. Create a new military police force that only concerns itself with the military and put the military police, the Korps Nationale Reserve and all facilitating services under a kind of Navy Support Service. Conscripts will also serve in the support services rather than direct combat formations which limits their chance of ever being dispatched to serve outside the country. Furthermore expand the Navy by doubling the amount of ships and combining the support vessels into multirole amphibious assault ships/support ships. Which will increase both the support capacity as well as their combat strength.

    Police Organisation:
    Demilitarize the Dutch Marechaussee and merge them into the National Police and decentralise the police services by granting the powers back to the municipalities of the cities by splitting them up into the Gemeentepolitie (Municipal Police) and the Rijkspolitie (National Police). The Rijkspolitie will concern itself with the provinces and with border control. The Dienst Speciale Interventies (the police special force) are to be militarised and moved to the Marine Corps.
    Civil Defense: The government needs to return to a system of civil defense (returning to the name "Bescherming Burgerbevolking) in preparation of natural disasters or wartime calamities. This means that this country should adopt a nation-wide shelter program following the Swiss model. In case of mobilisation or natural disasters, the security services, healthcare and fire brigade must also be put at the disposal of the newly recreated civil defense service.

    The Environment
    Environmentalism: Somewhat supportive (while the environment should be cared for, there should be no Green Deal. The energy policy should focus itself on nuclear energy rather than "clean" resources. National parks should be privatized and given to farmers, associations, water boards and the old aristocracy (as "estates) to care for them, farmers should be expected to maintain the so-called "National Landscapes"). The Netherlands should reverse the destruction of wetlands as well as deforestation and explicitely ban those by law.
    Urbanization: Somewhat opposed (Cities are a necessary evil but it would be better to keep the country decentralised and give as many lands as possible to private owners so they could live off their land and their own hard work. This is also why I am not too unhappy with projected fall in population back to 13.5 million Dutch but recognise that this will only benefit us, when most migrants have been deported so there will be no threat of a demographic replacement. )
    Natural/unprocessed food production:
    Somewhat supportive (While, personally, believing in "honest food" and rejecting processed foods, it would be difficult to translate this in a good policy. However, I do believe in slashing taxes over healthy foods and instituting a high "sin tax" on products that were made using unethical methods (f.i slave labour abroad).
    Animal rights: Somewhat supportive
    (anti-cruelty laws should remain on the books and punishments for those who engage in it should be severe. While regulations on farmers should be lessened, they too should be expected to make their farmers as animal-friendly as possible and the way in which animals are slaughtered should be reviewed and improved as well.

    The Economy
    Welfare state: Somewhat supportive (create a National Insurance with retains the current personal budget system. The National Insurance could also include a national basic income (rent and amenities already paid for) and serve as a general social security system).
    Taxation:
    Neutral (all within reason): with the migrants gone, taxes can be slashed in half.
    Economic System:
    Social market economy, The social partners will be replaced with a national organisation for the next 25 years known as the Nederlands Arbeidsfront which will be based, in part on its WWII predecessor, the Arbeidsfront will replace the existing trade unions and employer's organizations and will seek to harmonize labor relations and coordinate national policy in much the same was as the current social partners until the country has been purged enough and we can return to normal.Local guilds may (set up as voluntary assistance groups) may place additional standards to protect the local SME's and stamp out big, and mostly, foreign chains and corporations.
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over industries:
    Key industries ought to be public. The rest would be in private hands. The national infrastructure will be publicly-owned. Royal Dutch Shell and NAM would be nationalized and manage the nation's resources and its distribution.The Railways should be nationalised (using the name Staatsbedrijf der Nederlandsche Spoorwegen), mail and telecom/internet services would be renationalised and placed under a new PTT. Multinationals are either to be nationalized or broken up and their resources put to public use (Unilever comes to mind but also Philips).
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over banks:
    Private The majority only in the form of mutualist credit unions. There should also be a national public retail bank for those preferring a public solution. All money exchange offices should be state-owned.
    National bank in public/private ownership: Public and under parliamentary control.
    Healthcare (Private/Public/Other): Private. Replace the current healthcare system with a mandatory national insurance while retaining private ownership over clinics and hospitals. There should be a national public purchasing programme for all medication, preferable through a continued European solution (a joint European purchasing power) into order to undermine Big Pharma.
    Education (Private/Public/Other): Private. Dismantle of the State-run "liberal" public education system, purger all Marxist dogma and scrap the compulsory education clause from the constitution. Divide the country into school districts (between 60 and 70 for the whole country) and allow private industry, the Church (Protestant or Catholic), villages or parent associations to hire their own teachers. The State should merely provide the available infrastructure (buildings), enforce quality control (school maintenance, teacher's credentials) school/university vouchers and set the conditions for the beta part of the final SAT testing system (the alpha part, minus languages and civics (and there only purely the legal and political part) should be left to the school boards and districts themselves. For the vocational education system, companies should be allowed to train prospective underage staff (following the old medieval system of the journeyman) Universities are to be handed over to market parties (merge the 4TU universities (4 Technical Universities) into two highly selective Dutch versions of MIT or CalTech to be based in Delft (near Rotterdam) and Eindhoven and provide the new universities with campuses so people no longer need to find rooms elsewhere), merge the Protestant Theological University in Kampen and the more conservatively Protestant VU Amsterdam with Leiden University and move it to a campus near Leiden to form a 4HU (4 Humanities Universities) with universities such as Utrecht (striving for excellence while modelling themselves on the Ivy League), Groningen and a merger between conservative remaining Catholic parts of the universities of Tilburg, Maastricht and Nijmegen into a campused Catholic university based at Maastricht. The 4HU should lose their beta departments which should be merged into the new 2TU. Amsterdam (which, together with Nijmegen has had a nefarious role in spreading leftist propaganda) should see its university broken up, its health studies economics departments and research facilities moved to the 4HU as well as existing private universities like Nijenrode. The rest at Amsterdam, Nijmegen and other infected universities can be closed down immediatelly, New universities may be created by private parties but they have to be accredited on their social and political reliability and, like existing universities, may be closed down at any given moment if they were to spread anti-Dutch, anti-Western, anti-White and anti-Christian views as guarded by the Nederlandse Cultuurkamer. Education facilities in general should be built in traditional styles that fit in with their surroundings. This goes even more so for the universities which should not just become the Dutch competitors of America's and Britain's top universities but also adapt a modified (Dutchified) version of their architectural styles.

    Social Conservatism.
    Political correctness: Strongly opposed

    Religion influencing politics: Strongly supportive (but only in the case of Christianity)
    Degenerate media & entertainment: Strongly opposed
    (to be suppressed by the reintroduction of parts of the 1911 Public Morality Acts or Zedelijkheidswetten and the placing of the media under a purge overseen by the Nederlandse Cultuurkamer and examples of degenerate media should be used in high schools in a campaign of "public inoculation", other forms of degenerate media should either be banned from public (taxpayer-paid) TV or removed from museums and public libraries and professional pornography should be banned outright (treated as prostitution) but private consenting individuals can do as they like on closed forums where access is restricted to those over the age of 18. For the time being it would be wise to introduce some forms of censorship where certain works can be removed from the public space.)
    Prostitution:
    Strongly opposed
    (to be stamped out as part of the partial reintroduction of the 1911 Public Morality Acts.)
    Pornography: Somewhat opposed
    (full stop ban (through a modified version of the 1911 Public Morality Acts) on professional pornographers because of their abuses. private consenting individuals can do as they like but it can't be made or spread in a public place where children may have access.)
    Abortion: Strongly opposed (I am very much anti-abortion. There should be a strong social stigma on it and most abortion cases should be able to be prevented by setting up a national adoption board where children that might have been aborted can be adopted by a loving parent after its birth. This also in order to bring down the number of foreign adoptions.) In case of a severe crippling handicap/low-viability, a still-birth, or a risk to the mother's health it should be permitted at any given time in the pregnancy as at that time, it can be concluded that a life lost may safe a life.
    Homosexuality: Strongly opposed (male homosexual acts should be punishable under a modified version of a re-introduced 1911 Public Morality Acts and should be, on paper, punishable by death.)
    (If voted - Same-sex marriage):
    -
    (If voted - Civil unions for same-sex couples): -
    (If voted - Adoption by same-sex couples):
    -
    Drugs / alcohol / tobacco: Somewhat supportive (Banning them doesn't work. Either way, we should not give the government control over what we consume. However: drugs may be prescribed by psychiatrists or physicians for medical uses and the costs of purchasing them (at an licensed apothecary who may procure their supplies from private, licensed suppliers on the open market monitored by a national organization for quality control.
    Gun control: Somewhat opposed
    (only 18+ and criminals, the untrained and the insane should be refused permits. Concealed carry and "stand-your-ground" for the rest.)
    Euthanasia:
    Somewhat opposed ( In the "current year" the development of anaesthetics and the use of medicinal cannabis should be enough to ease the suffering of the terminally ill. I would believe we should, instead, improve the quality of palliative care).
    Eugenics:
    Somewhat opposed (the education/care system should only the mentally defected not to have children and give proper sexual education that is specifically tailored to their special needs. Either way: with the majority of migrants gone, the "low IQ"- problem is, mostly fixed so there will no need for any "drastic" (a.k.a insane) measures that violate both art 11 of the Constitution and our common Christian morality).
    Racial integration / miscegenation: Neutral (only direct ancestry through the paternal line should give access to the Dutch nationality, women who marry foreign should lose their citizenship and women who get pregnant fornicating with foreigners will see the resulting children deprived of Dutch citizenship as the father isn't Dutch)
    Divorce: Somewhat opposed (Move away from no-fault divorce but towards mediation and child support and scrap alimony. Families, even if disintegrated, are to be protected through a national basic income scheme. The Church may still ban divorce for its adherents if they see fit.)
    Immigration: Strongly opposed. (Only those married to native-born male Dutch citizens can become citizens and immigration is severely restricted for everyone else as only those who are here on a temporal basis (diplomatic staff, foreign students, certain professionals) should receive temporal work visa's)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticForest View Post
    People like you are the reason why I'm an Ecofascist. I am just sick and tired of the evil in humanity. Some times I dream about animals developing intelligence and just slaughtering all humans on this great planet that we are destroying
    Can you elaborate? What do you disagree with?

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    You seem sane
    Quote Originally Posted by CelticForest View Post
    Ecofascism. Nature's above all humans, not the other way around. Doesn't matter your genetics, religion, political ideology, hobbies... You hurt nature in an extrim way, you should suffer the consequences
    Quote Originally Posted by CelticForest View Post
    People like you are the reason why I am Ecofascist. I am just sick and tired of the evil in humanity. I dream about animals developing intelligence and just slaughtering all humans on this great planet that we are destroying

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimt View Post
    Can you elaborate? What do you disagree with?
    Well, where should start? I disagree with your unjust racism and shifted reality. Hitler is a hero for you? History gives you all reasons to understand and observe his wickedness, yet you choose to play deaf (he was good only to german nationalists and that is all). "Democracy is very stupid" Do I really need explain what's wrong with this opinion? It's like explaning to a kid why is the earth round. "race mixing is generally not acceptable to me", just wow. It take's history back to dark times. I'm personally attracted to white females, but why should you give a damn about other people and who are they with? I just find that complelety insane! I see you also insulted jews. Well, sounds like you believe the common "Jews control the world" conspiracy theiory. Have you ever met any jewish person in your life? As somone who lived in Israel for all his life, I can tell you with all certianty: Jews are normal people and they don't act any differently from other people groups on this planet! Some are religious, some are atheists, and a hole lot of israelis I can tell you that (they call themselves jews only by heritage), some are completely retarded, some are friendly, some are left wingers and some are right wingers, some think they are gangsers and some are hippies (we have a lot of them here), some like money and some just like to live a moderate live, the list goes on and on... It is insane and ingnorant to think of a certain people group as a hole, that they are ALL evil.
    I agree with the rest of your opinions that I didn't mention to some extent.

    I hope you start to think with an open mind and don't be fixed on specific opinions. Think outside of your box and logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westbrook View Post
    You seem sane
    As the Dutch expression goes: "Make the world a better place, set a good example". In his case:



    His existence, after all, harms nature by using up resources.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Westbrook View Post
    You seem sane
    I am indeed actually. I Don't have any mental disorders such as, anxiety depression, dementia, PSTD or anything of that sort. I've built my ideology with my own research and opinions. I am not thinking of doing much with it such as going into politics or kill anyone. I'm going to keep on living my normal life with my family and friends... it's just an ideology

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    My political preference is as almost similar as the OP's preference


    Preferred Political System:
    Folk's tribalism with democratic and conservative elements (at least my personal vision)



    Political and civil rights
    Free speech:
    Strong support
    (minus obscenity, threats and insults)
    Freedom of religion: Somewhat supportive
    (minus ALL Semitic religions and anything related to the Middle East)
    Freedom of assembly: Strong support
    Corporal/capital punishment: Strong support.
    Universal suffrage: Strong support
    Compulsory voting: Strong support


    Nationalism/Internationalism
    Nationalism: Strongly supportive
    (given full human rights to small ethnic groups living inside the country and the rest minorities)
    Internationalism:Against
    EU-membership (only for Europeans): Strongly oppose
    UN-membership: Strongly oppose
    NATO-membership: Strongly oppose
    ZOG: Strongly oppose.


    The Military
    Militancy (as in supporting military operations abroad): Strongly oppose
    Compulsory military service: Strongly support
    Women in the armed forces: Somewhat supportive


    The Environment
    Environmentalism:
    Strongly support
    Urbanization: Strongly oppose
    Natural/unprocessed food production: Neutral
    Animal rights:
    Strongly support

    The Economy
    Welfare state: Strongly support
    Taxation: Neutral (all within reason)
    Economic System:
    Social market economy, distributism. General oversight under the Polder Model. (same)
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over industries:
    Key industries ought to be public, the rest mainly in the hands of voluntary co-operatives or guilds. (same)
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over banks:
    Key banks ought to be public, the majority voluntary credit unions. (same)
    National bank in public/private ownership:
    Public and under parliamentary control. (same)
    Healthcare (Private/Public/Other): Strong national healthcare system
    Education (Private/Public/Other):
    Strong national educational system


    Social Conservatism.
    Political correctness:
    Strongly oppose (!)
    Degenerate media & entertainment:
    Strongly oppose (!)
    Religion (in most cases): Somewhat neutral
    Pornography: Neutral (if done by consenting adults)
    Abortion: Strongly oppose (!)
    Prostitution: Depends on
    Homosexuality: Somewhat oppose
    (not in public)
    (If voted - Same-sex marriage): Strongly oppose
    (If voted - Civil unions for same-sex couples): Neutral
    (If voted - Adoption by same-sex couples): Strongly oppose
    Drugs / alcohol / tobacco:
    Neutral (absolutely against drugs and everything related to it)
    Gun control: Somewhat supportive (criminals, children, those that refused to perform their military service and the insane should be refused permits)
    Euthanasia:
    Strongly oppose
    Eugenics: Somewhat supportive.
    (The severely handicapped and criminally-minded could be made to undergo compulsory sterilisation.)
    Racial integration / miscegenation: Depends on
    (in case of euro-asian or euro-native american marriage, I'm kind of supportive. Very strongly against interracial marriages with MENA, SSA, South Asian groups)

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