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    Quote Originally Posted by Fibonacci View Post
    No I'm talking about genetics. Iranians are closer to ossetians genetically than to central Asians. Culture wise, central Asians are closer to Iran
    That's arguable. Caspian Iranians, Eastern Iranians, and even a Mazandarani guy used to post here that went by the name "TheCaspian" was genetically closer to Central Asian Iranics than to Ossets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    I find it a bit odd that nearly all iranic groups(and most turkic ones) celebrate nowruz except for pashtuns. Why is this?

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    A lot of Pashtuns celebrate nowruz, but a lot of Pakistani Pashtuns are losing their culture, becoming more desi-fied, and dont celebrate it. There are many Pakistani Pashtuns who cant even speak pashto anymore, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    That's arguable. Caspian Iranians, Eastern Iranians, and even a Mazandarani guy used to post here that went by the name "TheCaspian" was genetically closer to Central Asian Iranics than to Ossets
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    He probably had Parthian descendants. The parthians were eastern Iranians who were concentrated in the north along the Caspian coast rather than central or southern iran. From what I've seen, Iranian gedmatches never show any central Asian population within considerable distance. It's a cluster of Caucasians and Turks with Jews. If any ancient migrations took place between Iran and the Caucasus, the Caspian belt would be the epicentre. Iranians have a higher west Asian and east med than central Asians which is why they cluster with caucasians than afghans or Tajiks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fibonacci View Post
    He probably had Parthian descendants. The parthians were eastern Iranians who were concentrated in the north along the Caspian coast rather than central or southern iran. From what I've seen, Iranian gedmatches never show any central Asian population within considerable distance. It's a cluster of Caucasians and Turks with Jews. If any ancient migrations took place between Iran and the Caucasus, the Caspian belt would be the epicentre. Iranians have a higher west Asian and east med than central Asians which is why they cluster with caucasians than afghans or Tajiks.
    No its due to native neolithic dna. In fact, Caspians barely even have steppe dna compared to any other ethnic group in Iran. They are rather a very archaic group of people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    That's arguable. Caspian Iranians, Eastern Iranians, and even a Mazandarani guy used to post here that went by the name "TheCaspian" was genetically closer to Central Asian Iranics than to Ossets
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    That's because Ossets are genetically not Iranian at all have nothing to do with Iranians/Persians in Iran. Ossets were most likely Iranized by the Alans who gave their name to them. Ossets are genetically identical to other Kavkaz ethnic groups like Chechens, Circassians, however them and the Balkars share almost identical genome which indicates that both underwent language shift through elite dominance one by an Iranic group and the other by a Kipchak Turkic group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fibonacci View Post
    He probably had Parthian descendants. The parthians were eastern Iranians who were concentrated in the north along the Caspian coast rather than central or southern iran. From what I've seen, Iranian gedmatches never show any central Asian population within considerable distance. It's a cluster of Caucasians and Turks with Jews. If any ancient migrations took place between Iran and the Caucasus, the Caspian belt would be the epicentre. Iranians have a higher west Asian and east med than central Asians which is why they cluster with caucasians than afghans or Tajiks.
    There was another East Iranic group that came to that region from Central Asia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapur_tribe

    They presumably had a lot of influence there since they're the reason Iran's Caspian Coast was historically called Tabaristan.

    Parthians were historically concentrated in Northeast Iran (Khorasan) but some migrated westwards later (including Mazandaran) since they had some capitals in more western lands.



    There's a language called Semnani that's directly descended from Parthian that's still alive in Semnan, but just barely.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semnani_languages

    On Anthrogenica, there was a result of an Iranian from Gorgan posted and he was much closer to Persians and Kurds than to Pashtuns and Tajiks, although he did show clear eastern influence. It was on puntDNAL K12 which isn't a good calculator at all, but better than nothing I suppose.

    Balochis, Khorasanis, and maybe some Semnanis would be closer to Pashtuns/Tajiks than to Ossetians whereas the remaining majority of Iranians would be closer to Ossetians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    No its due to native neolithic dna. In fact, Caspians barely even have steppe dna compared to any other ethnic group in Iran. They are rather a very archaic group of people
    Their extra South Asian is also neolithic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Their extra South Asian is also neolithic?
    Yep. The rest of persians dont score so much south asian

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