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  • We should recolonize our colonies. Explain why.

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  • We should establish close political/economic/cultural ties with our colonies, Explain why and how.

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  • No opinion (then don't vote )

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  • Other. Then what is your idea ?

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  • Colonialism is bad. Anyways they dumped us- time to move on. Explain why.

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  • Colonialism is bad but perhaps we could still work together with some. Explain why.

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    Default Colonialism. What do we think of it ?

    Colonialism. It has shaped European and World History in both positive and negative ways. Since the American War of Independence we have seen de-colonization. The pioneers of which were, involuntarily, the British who lost the Thirteen Colonies, the French who lost Haiti and the Spanish who lost their colonial empire in South America and later on the Phillippines. From then on it was quiet for a while but after World War II it started all over again with a massive wave of decolonization: first the British in India and the Dutch who got thrown out of the Netherlands Indies- now Indonesia. And on it went during the 1950s right up until the 1970s.

    The decolonization process cannot be described in one single word. It was violent in some places with a non-western populace, peaceful in others with a non-western populace, violent with a western populace like in what is now the United States of America (The Thirteen Colonies) or South Africa or non-violent with a western populace.
    In some cases the result was a nation that was still closely linked to the former mother country. Like Canada and Australia are to Britain. In other places the former colonial overlords were stamped out and the country indigenounized (like in Indonesia and Africa).

    So what to think about those final colonies during the 21th century. Could colonialism perhaps be turned into a cultural and a political bond. Like the Commonwealth of Nations or perhaps be more like the Nederlandse Taalunie (Dutch Language Union) where the Dutch (and Flemish) regulate the use of the Dutch language together with the Netherlands Antilles (still part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands) and Suriname (independent since 1975) - and where South Africa and Indonesia are special partners ?

    Or should we turn ourselves away from our former colonies the way they turned away from us ?



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    Our most recent colonizations....What do I think of them?

    Die zweite Völkerwanderung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seuthanan View Post
    Our most recent colonizations....What do I think of it?

    Die zweite Völkerwanderung.
    Err no. I am not referring to that.
    I meant our relations with our former colonies.

    Like the Netherlands with South Africa, the Netherlands Antilles, Suriname, Indonesia- and our ties with New York.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawspeaker View Post
    Err no. I am not referring to that.
    I meant our relations with our former colonies.

    Like the Netherlands with South Africa, the Netherlands Antilles, Suriname, Indonesia- and our ties with New York.
    Ah, then I guess this is a question for those in Europe. Personally, I don't care what England thinks about us Americans, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seuthanan View Post
    Ah, then I guess this is a question for those in Europe. Personally, I don't care what England thinks about us Americans, for example.
    But would an American consider it a good idea to establish close cultural ties with England ?



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    Hard for the majority of us Americans to relate to England, as well.

    The majority of people in the US are German blood, and the rest of the peoples have ties to other countries as well.

    I guess think of us as brothers in arms rather than colonies nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawspeaker View Post
    But would an American consider it a good idea to establish close cultural ties with England ?
    Sure, why not? I would, so long as they don't hold us back in any way. We have our differences, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawspeaker View Post
    But would an American consider it a good idea to establish close cultural ties with England ?
    Yes, but not JUST England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jägerzen View Post
    Yes, but not JUST England.
    Yes, you're right. But what are you using as criteria for this?

    I'd say the British Isles, Germany/Switzerland, and the Netherlands...our main colonizing nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawspeaker View Post
    But would an American consider it a good idea to establish close cultural ties with England ?
    England is the ancient enemy. They are an enemy so vile and perverse that they impelled us to rebel and forge a nation from beneath the yoke of their oppression!

    Seriously though, as far as forming close ties with any nation, George Washington said it better than I can:

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    It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world

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