Spanish and Portuguese 23andme results!

[vivna]

Por cierto vivna yo soy medio andaluz medio manchego( mi bisabuela era de un pueblo de Toledo) pero lo que es genes de origen judio no se muestra, de hehco a nivel genetico es como si fuera algo asi como medio vasco, cuando habia un cluster en 23andme las personas con las que estaba tocando su padre o madre eran vascos

Por cierto gold-fenix, de que pueblo de Toledo era tu bisabuela, te acuerdas?

[vivna]

Aqui estas en el mapa genetico, te desvias algo de la media española, seguramente debido a tu alto East-Med :

De nuevo Ibericus gracias por este mapa , se me olvidó preguntarte, el alto East-Med, de que podrían ser fruto: herencia neolítica, fenicios...?

[Ibericus]

De nuevo Ibericus gracias por este mapa , se me olvidó preguntarte, el alto East-Med, de que podrían ser fruto: herencia neolítica, fenicios...?

Yo diria que el 90% es de origen neolítico, lo sabemos ya que tenemos muchas muestras del neolítico y muestran un alto nivel de East-Med, luego algunos otros pueblos pudieron añadir su granito de arena (fenicios, romanos, etc.) pero no creo que sea demasiado.

[gold_fenix]

Por cierto gold-fenix, de que pueblo de Toledo era tu bisabuela, te acuerdas?

Ahora mismo no creia que era Almodovar del campo que antes se llamaba Almodovares del campo peroe se de Ciudad Real pero de ese era mi bisabuelo

Ya lo encontre, Aldeanueva de San bartolome

[Damião de Góis]

That's it, i'm gonna clean this thread.

Thread reopened, off-topic and trolling deleted.

[Potentia]

My Father’s Eurogenes K15, if he were to be full European.

North Sea: 24.98
Atlantic: 21.81
East Med: 21.34
West Med: 21.04
Red Sea: 6.26
Baltic: 4.28
Eastern Euro: 0.26

Does anyone have any idea why his East Med would be higher than his West Med? Or, why it is even that high at all. Could it be possible Sephardic Ancestry, of maybe Italian?

[Kriptc06]

My Father’s Eurogenes K15, if he were to be full European.

North Sea: 24.98
Atlantic: 21.81
East Med: 21.34
West Med: 21.04
Red Sea: 6.26
Baltic: 4.28
Eastern Euro: 0.26

Does anyone have any idea why his East Med would be higher than his West Med? Or, why it is even that high at all. Could it be possible Sephardic Ancestry, of maybe Italian?

its pretty much the same, 0.30 difference, noisy, if you upload a different raw file from another company it may even be the opposite. W>E

[Potentia]

its pretty much the same, 0.30 difference, noisy, if you upload a different raw file from another company it may even be the opposite. W>E

it definitely could go either way.

However, my Father is of Mexican ancestry, which would mean that his European ancestry is pretty much Spanish. However, when looking at his scores vs. an average Spaniards' scores, they look far different. For example, my Father's East Med is almost double that of a typical Spaniard.

I would be interested in hearing what Longbowman has to say, as even in his oracle, he sometimes gets Jewish.

[Nico Nobrix]

The results seem to go hand to hand with history. Not so surprising, looking at history, something like that should be expected more or less. Everything is over 98+ Euro and under 1% other. The "Limpieza de Sangre", history and DNA results show this by the low score of under 1% results.

As history tells, it goes hand to hand with what the results tells, the Moors were not more than 5% of the Iberian peninsula, they were basically just a small group that converted a big group of Spaniards to Islam. Most of the "Moriscos" being racially native Iberians. Most of them with under 1% 'North African' these less than 1% must be ancient, but one thing is clear most do not or it would have showed a higher score in the test results.

The islanders, the Madeiran Portuguese, it seems more or less, over 96+ Euro. with under 2-1% other on average. Some of them showing the most 2% NA. only one of all I saw was 4% SSA.

Im full Madeiran Portuguese with 1.3% subsaharan. Out of which most in East African. Not sure if that makes it any more unique or Ancient from Arab Egyptions. Still 98+ percent European is pretty good. Suprised to see 23 and me absorbed 7% North African ancestry. 2-3% North African is pre Neolithic North African and that any more is Medieval North African. Because 2-9% is average for a native Iberian, looks like it gets absorbed into iberian. A ton of West European and north European is absorbed into iberian as well. You dont know the true results until you use something like a Dodecade calculator. Judging from dodecade, 23 and me hides about 50% North, West European, and East European, 20% Southern European, 5-15% Caucus and middle east, 7% North African, and 1% sub saharan. What ever exceeds those rough avaerages becomes flagged in 23 and me results. Hence, a lot of these results have 1% extra sub saharan, 7% extra North African,and ALOT extra North, West, and East European. Would like to see results from Northern Portuguese and North Spaniards

[alnortedelsur]

I won't post mine because I'm not full Spanish. But here there are my Spanish mom's results: