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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    For what should he apologize? For 500 000 Serbs that you expelled or hundreds of thousands that you killed in Jasenovac? I am not denying our crimes, but why should we be the only ones apologizing?
    500 000 expelled Serbs ? Are you joking or trolling ?

    What has Jasenovac to do with Serbia and this particular visit ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    500 000 expelled Serbs ? Are you joking or trolling ?

    What has Jasenovac to do with Serbia and this particular visit ?
    Accidentally exaggerated, number is around 250 000. But the question still stands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    What has Jasenovac to do with Serbia and this particular visit ?
    Are you serious with that question? Well maybe it has to do with the fact that at least 100 000 people were killed in there and most of them were Serbian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    Accidentally exaggerated, number is around 250 000. But the question still stands
    Do you deny Krajina leadership issued decree for their evacuation ? How is that expelling ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    500 000 expelled Serbs ? Are you joking or trolling ?

    What has Jasenovac to do with Serbia and this particular visit ?
    EVERYTHING has to do with Jasenovac, doesnt matter if we are talking about 500BC or today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Do you deny Krajina leadership issued decree for their evacuation ? How is that expelling ?
    They certainly were scared for their lives, because we both know what happened to Serbs in last independent Croatia. Many crimes were committed during that operation, around 2000 killed civilians and many more households burned. But i do understand your point, its pretty clear that Miloševićs government wanted to populate Krajina Serbs in Kosovo. But my question still remains, no one has ever apologized for the Sisak disappearance of Serbs, for the masaccers in Lika, so called "Zadarska kristalna noć", murderers of Zec family and etc. While our government did apologize during Tadić regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragan Ciganovic View Post
    EVERYTHING has to do with Jasenovac, doesnt matter if we are talking about 500BC or today.
    You aren't Serb

    But Croatia never denied responsibility for Jasenovac, Jadovno, Gradiska concetration camps etc. Serbia is acting immature here. It's not right to connect 90s wars with ww2, just to avoid responsibility.

    We can't make good relations with people like Vučić. He has too problematic past, current Croatian leaders don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    They certainly were scared for their lives, because we both know what happened to Serbs in last independent Croatia.
    Nothing happened to them. The real number of Serbs killed in Jasenovac was 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    They certainly were scared for their lives, because we both know what happened to Serbs in last independent Croatia. Many crimes were committed during that operation, around 2000 killed civilians and many more households burned. But i do understand your point, its pretty clear that Miloševićs government wanted to populate Krajina Serbs in Kosovo. But my question still remains, no one has ever apologized for the Sisak disappearance of Serbs, for the masaccers in Lika, so called "Zadarska kristalna noć", murderers of Zec family and etc. While our government did apologize during Tadić regime.
    That's not right argument. 2000 killed civilians isn't confirmed nor accepted, except by Serbs themself.

    Should I remind you who was expelled from their land in that war ? Croats, by Serbs, and tens of tousands of them. Individual crimes are processed. From wiki:
    A wider-scale war was launched in August 1991. Over the following months, a large area of territory, amounting to a third of Croatia, was controlled by the rebel Serbs. The Croatian population suffered heavily, fleeing or evicted with numerous killings, leading to ethnic cleansing.[14] The bulk of the fighting occurred between August and December 1991 when approximately 80,000 Croats were expelled (and some were killed).[15] Many more died and or were displaced in fighting in eastern Slavonia (this territory along the Croatian/Serbian border was not part of the Krajina, and it was the JNA that was the principal actor in that part of the conflict). The total number of exiled Croats and other non-Serbs range from 170,000 (ICTY)[16] up to a quarter of a million people (Human Rights Watch).[17]
    Tadić was OK. Btw, as for NDH, it was ''indipendent'' in name only ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    You aren't Serb

    But Croatia never denied responsibility for Jasenovac, Jadovno, Gradiska concetration camps etc. Serbia is acting immature here. It's not right to connect 90s wars with ww2, just to avoid responsibility.

    We can't make good relations with people like Vučić. He has too problematic past, current Croatian leaders don't.
    Avoiding responsibility is part of our culture and values, please respect our traditions.

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