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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Why you claim Pomaks, Torbeshi and Gorani? These people have nothing to do with Bosniaks. Not even Sandžakians are related with BiH Muslims, but at least you became political close since 1990s and Sarajevo is full of Sandžakians.
    The same reason Serb people claim all Orthodox South Slavs all the way down to Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    The same reason Serb people claim all Orthodox South Slavs all the way down to Greece.
    Serbs don't claim Bulgarians and northern Macedonians.

    In Restelica the largest Gorani settlement 30 years ago there was almost 100% Gorani. Today there is 33% Bosniaks.
    Bosniaks from Restelica and whole Gora and Prizren are Gorani brainwashed by propaganda from Sarajevo. They started to declared themselves as Bosniaks in the last 20 years https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Рестелица

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Serbs don't claim Bulgarians and northern Macedonians.

    In Restelica the largest Gorani settlement 30 years ago there was almost 100% Gorani. Today there is 33% Bosniaks.
    Bosniaks from Restelica and whole Gora and Prizren are Gorani brainwashed by propaganda from Sarajevo. They started to declared themselves as Bosniaksin tha last 20 years https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Рестелица
    Well that's great... after all, Balkan muslims should be Either Bosniaks, Turks or Albanians... those minor identities must be eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Well that's great... after all, Balkan muslims should be Either Bosniaks, Turks or Albanians... those minor identities must be eliminated.
    You destroy unique culture of Gorani. Bosniakization is more dangerous for Gorani identity than albanization, macedonization, bulgarization and turkization.
    Your propaganda on Gorani is same as Croatian propaganda on Bačka Bunjevci.

    In 1990s Alija Izetbegović and Muhamed Filipović created artificial Bosniak nation from Serbian speaking BiH and Sandžakian Muslims. Today you claim all South Slavic Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    You destroy unique culture of Gorani. Bosniakization is more dangerous for Gorani identity than albanization, macedonization, bulgarization and turkization.
    Your propaganda on Gorani is same as Croatian propaganda on Bačka Bunjevci.

    In 1990s Alija Izetbegović and Muhamed Filipović created artificial Bosniak nation from Serbian speaking BiH and Sandžakian Muslims. Today you claim all South Slavic Muslims.
    You defend them just because you hate muslims, and you would like to see us split in 4995 factions. Your intentions are evil and as such not relevant.

    Smart Gorani people will always identify as Bosniaks while stupid ones will be something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
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    These two under R1b-BY611>Z2705 definitely have Albanian origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    You defend them just because you hate muslims, and you would like to see us split in 4995 factions. Your intentions are evil and as such not relevant.

    Smart Gorani people will always identify as Bosniaks while stupid ones will be something else.
    Bosniakism is mental illness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Bosniakism is mental illness.
    You have assimilated Orthodox Albanians on Kosovo, you have assimilated Vlachs in Serbia.. why don't you fight for their rights? No you fight for Gorani rights... to divide muslims. I read you like a children's book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    You have assimilated Orthodox Albanians on Kosovo, you have assimilated Vlachs in Serbia.. why don't you fight for their rights? No you fight for Gorani rights... to divide muslims. I read you like a children's book.
    There was no Orthodox Albanians in Kosovo, never in history. Orthodox Albanians live in southern Albania. Kosovo Albanians are 97-98% Muslims and 2-3% Catholics.

    Timok Vlachs were integrated in Serbia society in 19th century by own will. Yes, they are basically Romanians. Still they are not full assimilatted. Serbs from Romania are mostly assimilatted in Romanian nation and Serbs from Hungary are full magyarized. Assimilation of Timok Vlachs same are rumanization of Serbs from Romania and magyarization of Serbs from Hungary were slowly "natural" processes without farce and propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    There was no Orthodox Albanians in Kosovo, never in history. Orthodox Albanians live in southern Albania. Kosovo Albanians are 97-98% Muslims and 2-3% Catholics.

    Timok Vlachs were integrated in Serbia society in 19th century by own will. Yes, they are basically Romanians. Still they are not full assimilatted. Serbs from Romania are mostly assimilatted in Romanian nation and Serbs from Hungary are full magyarized. Assimilation of Timok Vlach same are rumanization of Serbs from Romania and magyarization of Serbs from Hungary were slowly "natural" processes without farce and propaganda.
    Same here, since Raška was part of Bosnian Eyalet for many years they were naturally assimilated into Bosniaks, Gorani as well. You must understand
    the fact that all Ex-Yu people of Islamic faith are Bosniaks, just like Patriarch Pavle proclaimed that "Serbs are all Orthodox people of Ex Yu"

    Our nation is both religiously and ottoman culture connected, and all Sanjak, Gorani are part of that community, they shouldn't go back to some past that
    doesn't exist any more.

    There are NO Muslim Serbs or Muslim Vlachs that identity is DEAD now they are all Bosniaks.

    We have 5 mil Bosniaks in Turkey, 2,5 mil on Balkans.

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