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Thread: Brussels: Hungary is no longer a full democracy

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    The EU has in the past year or so completely dispelled any doubts that it is a thoroughly, deliberately Satanic evil organisation, that is working to systematically destroy the freedoms of European citizens.
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    Scholz is the worst German leader in history. A complete traitor to his country and continent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Okay so being dependant on Russia is bad, but you suggested being dependant on arabs is good. Nice logic... As we said Europe has no resources, we must buy import so we must depend on someone. The russian resources are cheaper and closer to us, its the best choice by far.
    Nope, I didn't say that. I said EU should diversify it's energy network. That way you avoid blackmail from countries you depend on if you are not diversified.
    Ofc Russia should be main gas supplier to the EU. But not the only one, that's totally dumb thing to do.

    The hungarian economy developed because of EU money, russian resources and german companies, these 3 are the main reason. Without the russian resources this country would not work, but everything would be more expensive and its not sure that german compaies would stay in Hungary.
    Yeah, it goes hand in hand. German economy (and by that Eu aconomy) is competitive in large part also due to cheap Russian resources, that's pretty clear.

    The main reason of serbian poverty is the war desolation in the hinterland by NATO bombardiers. But i agree Serbia would be more developed inside the EU.
    Serbia is poor mainly due to negative selection there, lack of rule of law and organized crime that is very widespread. Also Ottoman mental legacy of robbery and violence.
    EU would help to soften such influences. Btw, by natural resources/arable land Serbia is a rich country and it has most important position in Balkans.

    It's mostly due to it's people and mentality why it is like that.

    Hungary dont want to order croatian gas, we are forced by EU, because they are cut us off from Russia, but buying more expensive gas is not interest of Hungary in the reality. Yes its very profitable for Croatia thats why you want it.
    Yeah, so? It's not ordered by EU. I guess you have lacking now due to sanctions.



    Yeah, thats why there is no a normal bike path in Budapest and there are potholes everywhere. This is how an average hungarian road look like:

    Road infrastructure is notably improved in last few years. Depends who are you comparing with. Anyway, Hungary is mostly flat plain and transport is easy. Railway network is also excellent (always has been).
    All roads go trough Hungary, so to speak. It's a transportational heart of Europe and main path towards Istanbul goes trough Budapest.

    Yeah very high skilled, i would recommend this parody video about hungarian workers:
    Dump trolling...

    Nope, after Trianon when they stealed our industry, Hungary remained only an agricultural country. The communist leader called Rákosi said similiar things as you now, "we will be the country of iron and steel' but the industrialization was completely failed because of lack of resources and real industry.
    Universe already debunked that.

    Really? But according to EU its an evil corrupt dictatorship so whats the truth?
    Compared to place like Serbia or Belarus and such places (or Croatia for that matter) Hungary is well organized country. And those are your competitors for "cheap factories".
    It's really corrupted and Orban/Fidesz only made it worse recently. But still well functional.

    Hungarians don't have this lawless bandit-clannish mentality like Balkanites for eg. and that is felt in all levels of society including administration.

    Do you really belive these fairy tales? The reason why germans want to bring their companies here is Hungary has the lowest taxes in the whole EU and Orbán gived them tons of special rights, and Orbán maked cheap labour slave of hungarians. This is the reason not the good infrastructure () and other bullshit.
    Yeah, but only party.

    Everything is clear but you dont understand that Hungary and Croatia are in two different economic situation. What is good for Croatia is not necessarily good for Hungary. Croatia was not part of Eastern Block and Comecon so your economy is not so russian oriented, but the situation is totally different in Hungary and these anti russian sanctions affect Hungary much more than they affect Croatia.
    I dont want to live in abroad only in Hungary, and you dont live in Hungary so you dont feel this economic crisis what is much less significant in Croatia. I just see this economic suicide and decline of my country because of stupid sanctions. Be happy that your country is in much better situation.
    I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Scholz is the worst German leader in history. A complete traitor to his country and continent.
    He is notably better than Merkel. In my opinion. Can't even be compared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    He is notably better than Merkel. In my opinion. Can't even be compared.
    No he is far worse! When last have you spoken to a German in Germany?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    He is notably better than Merkel. In my opinion. Can't even be compared.
    based on what?

    any specific policy?

    Every smart German tells you there is no difference between them, Atlantikbrücke rules modern CDU and SPD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    No he is far worse! When last have you spoken to a German in Germany?
    I've been to Germany recently and have friends there, I know it has never been worse. But it's not Scholz fault.
    Merkel was biggest traitor in modern German history and also she destroyed CDU from within.

    I respect more socialist Scholz that tries to look after German interests in his limited ability than a Troyan horse like her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    based on what?

    any specific policy?

    Every smart German tells you there is no difference between them, Atlantikbrücke rules modern CDU and SPD.
    He wouldn't open borders for rapefugees like she did in 2015/2016. He probably wouldn't get overly dependant on Russia. And he's a leftist which makes it even funnier.
    To me it's clear they don't like NATO.

    Merkel would never start serious military production.

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    Scholz is a globohomo problem with Europe it severely lacks critical and independant thinking.

    We are allowing teenagers to dictate energy policy for example and lack the testinal fortitude to look after the welfare of the people and instead succumb to the whims of teenage soundbites.
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    He wouldn't open borders for rapefugees like she did in 2015/2016. He probably wouldn't get overly dependant on Russia. And he's a leftist which makes it even funnier.
    To me it's clear they don't like NATO.

    Merkel would never start serious military production.
    Eh he would?

    SPD and Scholz were in a coallition with CDU during 2015, we dont have a presidential system, the parties in the Bundestag including Scholz voted in favour of every Merkel policy.

    NordStream 2 was initiated by his party SPD.

    Sorry but you dont know basics of German inner politics you just have shown me.

    The current SPD,GREENS,FDP alliance has been pushing for even more liberal immigration/asylum laws than Merkel could have dreamed of.

    The only legit parties in Germany that are different from the "bloc parties" are die Linke and AfD.

    Ironically Germany has a less diverse and democratic landscape than Orbans hungary.

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