Russia stopped Nazi Germany, Nobody else.

[Rumata]

...Before, in 1935-1939, Stalin made several offers to US, France and UK to ally against Germany. The price was the Baltic region, Stalin wanted to occupy it, but the west had not such mandate.

Is it confirmed that Stalin asked the West to handle him the Baltic region in exchange for the agraeement. Imo such a condition didn't make sense as USSR still needed years to prepare for a probable war so it couldn't dictate such conditions.

[Rumata]

Also the Munich Agreement happened before the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. The West wanted it obviously.

[Lousianaboy]

we should have won the war, we are aryans national socialist proud to be nordic guys

[jingorex]

Once again don't be an idiot. There is clear distinction between non-aggression pact and alliance. By your logic Britain, France and even Poland itself were all allies of Nazis when they gang raped Czechoslovakia only one year earlier.

I understand why you are so defensive and upset that you must resort to petty personal attack.

Its typical for someone who is losing but too incompetent to attempt a debate based on legitimate facts to resort to ad hominem.

Unfortunately for you, history doesn't give any fucks about your fee fees...

[Lemminkäinen]

Is it confirmed that Stalin asked the West to handle him the Baltic region in exchange for the agraeement. Imo such a condition didn't make sense as USSR still needed years to prepare for a probable war so it couldn't dictate such conditions.

It is figured in Finnish Wikipedia. Google translation:

Stalin's offers of alliances
From 1935, Josif Stalin of the Soviet Union tried to build a tactical front against Hitler, trying to convince the US, British and French governments of the need to build a collective security system. The matter was still discussed on April 15, 1939, in Moscow, where the French and British delegations were present. However, the negotiations did not succeed, and Winston Churchill of Britain later wrote in his memoirs that Stalin's proposal for a three-state alliance would have been worth accepting at the time. [19]

However, acceptance by the West was made impossible by the Soviet demand for the right to intervene in the policy of its immediate neighbors beforehand. Finland and the Baltic States were independent nations, which (especially Finland) did not allow Germany, Britain or the Soviet Union to interfere in their internal affairs.





https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toinen_maailmansota

If you can't find any mentioning in English there must be some reason for it, but hard to believe that Finnish writers would have put words in Churchhill's mouth. So those negotiations failed. If you know the reason why the west objected, I like to see it.


https://books.google.fi/books?id=rzr...baltic&f=false

https://latvians.com/index.php?en/CF...FDRawards.wiki

https://winstonchurchill.org/publica...-ii-1931-1950/

etc.

[Sarmatian]

I understand why you are so defensive and upset that you must resort to petty personal attack.

Its typical for someone who is losing but too incompetent to attempt a debate based on legitimate facts to resort to ad hominem.

Unfortunately for you, history doesn't give any fucks about your fee fees...

All that is nothing but your imagination. Who gives a fuck about opinions presented by Polish anti-Russian propaganda? Legal terms and definitions are quite strict. If you are not aware of their meaning don't call others incompetent, makes you look stupid.

[PAGANE]

Here is a curious archival document - a list of prisoners of war who surrendered to Soviet troops during the war. Let me remind you that a prisoner of war is one who fights in uniform with weapons in his hands. So, Germans - 2 389 560, Hungarians - 513 767, Romanians - 187 370, Austrians - 156 682, Czechs and Slovaks - 69 977, Poles - 60 280, Italians - 48 957, French - 23 136, Croats - 21 822, Dutch - 4,729, Finns - 2,377, Belgians - 2,010, Luxembourgers - 1,652, Danes - 457, Spaniards - 452, Gypsies - 383, Norwegians - 101, Swedes - 72.
And these are only those who survived and were captured

[Ülev]

[Sarmatian]

Sure. What are you going to do about it?

[Heaven]

No it was US and UK. Those Anglo people had tech. Russians were Canon fodders. One British life was worthier than one Soviet life.

Thus, Russia was given weapons and thrown ahead German meat grinder. Simple as that.

Russians then believed they were really strong. They were trying to play the "supah powah".

They got their check in 1990 by losing much of their lands. In 2014 they even lost Ukraine.

See today, there are British troops stationed in Estonia. Boris Johnson even paid them a visit on this last Christmas day.

Estonia is next door Petrograd.