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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Schauman... was it a composer, right?
    No, the composer you search was Schubert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Schauman... was it a composer, right?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schauman

    One of the 20 famous noble families in Finland (which local communists / leftests hated) ... they were active to industrialize Finland.
    Built up saws, ply wood factories etc. I respect those ''pioneers'' (they influenced a lot to development of Finland at 20th century).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    No, the composer you search was Schubert.
    No, my first thought was about this German composer: Robert Schumann

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schauman

    One of the 20 famous noble families in Finland (which local communists / leftests hated) ... they were active to industrialize Finland.
    Built up saws, ply wood factories etc. I respect those ''pioneers'' (they influenced a lot to development of Finland at 20th century).
    So it's not about Finnish culture as I hoped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    So it's not about Finnish culture as I hoped.
    If you ask Harkonnen ... then nope Lemmi? Not so sure anymore.

    So what is Finnish culture? Swedish / Germanic influence is present ... everywhere (if one just dig bit deeper). Hard core nationalist (Finns) just do not want to admit that. And equally ... same goes with Eastern influnces (Karelians & Russians).

    Finland is one kind of melting point of west and east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    No, my first thought was about this German composer: Robert Schumann
    Those German names belong to people who invested during the 19th century to wood processing industry. Not benefactors, but business as usual. They moved to Finland from Courland (nowadays belongs to Latvia) and were obviously Baltic-Germsn landlords who obtained their property by subjugating local serfs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    If you ask Harkonnen ... then nope Lemmi? Not so sure anymore.

    So what is Finnish culture? Swedish / Germanic influence is present ... everywhere (if one just dig bit deeper). Hard core nationalist (Finns) just do not want to admit that. And equally ... same goes with Eastern influnces (Karelians & Russians).

    Finland is one kind of melting point of west and east.
    What exactly is culturally Germanic or Russian in me, Ymy or Saiwalo? I'd agree that Lemminkäinen is culturally Continental European, but it is pretty obvious when you observe communication in this forum alone that the holy trinity I mentioned are complete oddballs, and there is in fact more common between Russian and Germanic, than either have to holy trinity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    If you ask Harkonnen ... then nope Lemmi? Not so sure anymore.

    So what is Finnish culture? Swedish / Germanic influence is present ... everywhere (if one just dig bit deeper). Hard core nationalist (Finns) just do not want to admit that. And equally ... same goes with Eastern influnces (Karelians & Russians).

    Finland is one kind of melting point of west and east.
    I think that we all have different answers. Historically Finland has been between east and west 2000 years. The first millennium petty kings ruled here as everywhere in Europe excluding Rome. Christianity process in Europe changed the geographical position. In general almost all European historical trends can be seen here. Some trends came via Sweden another via Russia . For example Russia paid to German architects, because they had not their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    Whaot t exactly is culturally Germanic or Russian in me, Ymy or Saiwalo? I'd agree that Lemminkäinen is culturally Continental European, but it is pretty obvious when you observe communication in this forum alone that the holy trinity I mentioned are complete oddballs, and there is in fact more common between Russian and Germanic, than either have to holy trinity.
    Relax Harkonnen ... I just teased you

    Plus I even like Mämmi ...





    ... which many pure ethnic Finns will not do (nowdays)?

    Plus 2017 (as being first/only time in Eastern Finland) ... I tried original handmade Karelian pasty, Kalakukko?, Lörtsy, Möttönen, Särä (one kind of sheep meat?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Those German names belong to people who invested during the 19th century to wood processing industry. Not benefactors, but business as usual. They moved to Finland from Courland (nowadays belongs to Latvia) and were obviously Baltic-Germsn landlords who obtained their property by subjugating local serfs.
    Is Adlercreutz German or some made up mumbojumbo language? In any case that at least is local with made up mumbojumbo fancy name.

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