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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    I think I'm a jew from the lost tribes of israel. Anyone agree?
    [1,] "Sicilian" "5.9572"
    [2,] "South_Italian" "6.0446"
    [3,] "Central_Greek_Thessaly" "6.5577"
    [4,] "Ashkenazi" "7.8232"
    [5,] "Italian_Abruzzo" "7.9589"
    [6,] "Italian_Jewish_Sephardic" "11.6019"
    [7,] "Algerian_Jewish" "11.9957"
    [8,] "Albanian" "12.7787"
    [9,] "Moroccan_Jew" "13.4443"
    [10,] "Tunisian_Jewish" "14.9468"
    [11,] "Libyan_Jewish" "15.3775"
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    Puntdnal k10:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian 4.59
    2 Sephardic_Jew 5.03
    3 Ashkenazi_Jew 5.21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    If you want to see yourselves as one of the inheritors of pre-Christian Judaism, I would obviously disagree, but I don't have a problem with it. However, the word 'Jew' in modern parlance does not mean that, and it is not what they are portraying themselves as. The word 'Christian' already encompasses the belief that the person to whom it applies is an adherent of an ideology that is a (not the) continuation of Judaism so calling yourself Jewish would be both unnecessary and deliberately misleading. In this case they go to efforts to portray themselves as Jews and as I say to convince others that they are Jews. Unlike other Christians they keep a not-so-convincing veneer of Jewish ritual to accompany their fundamentally Christian beliefset. As soon as they stop pretending to be Jews, I have no particular issue with them.



    Most of them are like that. Christians who fetishise Jewish 'authenticity.'

    I'm sure he's a great person but he's not Jewish in the slightest, he's a Christian who [99 times out of 100: not very well] attempts to practise what he views as Jewish ritual without adhering to any specifically Jewish theology. Nomenclature means nothing - messianics probably don't even realise that Rabbi is a pseudo-meaningless honorific and only Ashkenazim really even call their leaders by that name.
    She*

    She is indeed a great person. But I never considered her Jewish. Just Christian. But in America lots of people want to be Jews.

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    If you two are being serious, plate similarity on GEDmatch oracles is not the same as admixture.

    You're Southern Euros who get close to the similarly-admixed European Jewish populations. I, a European Jew (primarily), get close to Southern Euros. You are no more Jewish than I am Abruzzese.

    If you want to be Jewish, just convert and assimilate. There's no need to search for admixture and ancestry that isn't there.
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    @LBM, i am haplogroup T with some distant matches from poland( polish jews) . i also score 16% sephardic on ftdna, and so does my grandfather.

    PS: I know I'm not a Jew but anything is possible in terms of ancient admixtures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    @LBM, i am haplogroup T with some distant matches from poland( polish jews) . i also score 16% sephardic on ftdna, and so does my grandfather.

    PS: I know I'm not a Jew but anything is possible in terms of ancient admixtures.
    I get some Balkans on FTDNA (Southeast Europe); we're just so similar. Is your family from Salonika or Ioannina?
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    We're all from crete. Several cretans(not all) do score sephardic , in the 10-20% range. It could very well be phoenician stuff, another possibility is misinterpreted north african.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    We're all from crete. Several cretans(not all) do score sephardic , in the 10-20% range. It could very well be phoenician stuff, another possibility is misinterpreted north african.
    Chanea/Cania had a small Sephardic community, anyone from there? Btw I was in Crete a few months ago.
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    Interesting. I live in chania but my origin is from surrounding villages. I guess if i were descended from Chaniot jews I would've known it.

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