I support Catalonia Independance

[Tietar]

support support....

http://thecorner.eu/spain-economy/fo...talonia/79080/

Foreign direct investment(FDI) hit record highs in Spain in 2018, both in gross terms and when disinvestments are discounted. According to Industry Ministry data, gross foreign investments reached over 48 billion euros last year, a 70% increase on the previous year. Net foreign investment – which is more important as it reflects entry and exit flows – amounted to 39.746 billion euros, an increase of more than 153% over 2017. You have to go back to before the peak of the housing bubble to encounter similar levels of FDI in Spain.

According to the Ministry of Economy, the increases in FDI result from Spain´s continued above Eurozone average economic growth. The figures do not include financial investment, but rather deal with direct investment aimed at taking control of companies, opening factories, acquiring property assets or creating employment. In short they are long term projects linked to expectations of economic growth and so less volatile than purely speculative investments.

At the same time, the figures for Catalonia continued to decline. FDI in Catalonia in 2018 fell 12%. Between 2016 and 2018 it has fallen from gross investment of 8.273 billion euros to only 2.985 billion. In the midst of the political uncertainty provoked by the separatist movement, Catalonia´s share of total FDI in Spain has fallen from 31% to 6.4% in only three years. According to experts, the transfer of company headquarters out of Catalonia has contributed to the deterioration. By contrast, in the same period Madrid´s share of total FDI in Spain has expanded from 44% to 85%.

These figures can be very volatile from year to year. A single major investment can distort the data, especially in smaller regions. There can also be significant corrections in subsequent years because companies delay in reporting investments. However, the underlying trend are clear: in the competition for FDI, Madrid is winning and Catalonia losing.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I think his grandfather was from Andalucía. But his parents were already born in Catalonia. Even if his blood is not full Catalan, for me is a 100% Catalan. That's what people don't understand. For me being Catalan and feeling Catalan is the same at this point. Since I know, you are just half Spanish and you don't even live in Spain, but you FEEL Spanish (or half Spanish), you support the "unity" of Spain, you can vote in both countries, (even from your country of birth, England). So, if people tell you that you are not full Spanish nor full English because your mother is English and your father Spanish or wathever, even if you are born and live in England, how do you feel??...
I'm talking about FEELING Catalan. Inés Arrimadas, Albert Rivera, etc. don't feel Catalan imo., not even half Catalan: they feel 100% Spaniard. In contrast, some immigrants or descendants of immigrants (from Andalusia and other cities or countries, even), who were born or live in Catalonia now, support the independence movement and, for me, they are as Catalans as the rest.

Ethnicity isn't 'feelings.' Ethnicity isn't a choice. It's culture and blood. Is a Catalan no longer Catalan if he isn't a separartist? That would be absurd. Imagine someone whose grandparents migrated to Catalonia from Aragon telling someone who is 100% Catalan or 50% Catalan they aren't being very Catalan if they don't want independence. The idea of it is absurd.

It's amusing how before Spain's economic collapse you rarely heard of Catalan independence. It was a fringe movement. This all revolves around economics. It has nothing to do with real nationalism.

[Mopi Licinius Crassus]

Ethnicity isn't 'feelings.' Ethnicity isn't a choice. It's culture and blood. Is a Catalan no longer Catalan if he isn't a separartist? That would be absurd. Imagine someone whose grandparents migrated to Catalonia from Aragon telling someone who is 100% Catalan or 50% Catalan they aren't being very Catalan if they don't want independence. The idea of it is absurd.

It's amusing how before Spain's economic collapse you rarely heard of Catalan independence. It was a fringe movement. This all revolves around economics. It has nothing to do with real nationalism.

v v true

[Gallop]

Clarify that Spaniards are not immigrants in their own country. We Spaniards can move freely around our country. If you are Galician and want to go to live in Andalusia you just have to go and register in the town of your choice. Thats the reality. The independence movement speaks of Spain-Catalonia bilaterally as if it were two countries. It is simply ridiculous. The Catalan government is a regional government with X competencies not comparable to the government of the State.

Stop privileges.

[Gallop]

Catalans of Andalusian father and mother.
Inés Arrimadas

Vanessa Lorenzo

Mireia Belmonte.

Loles León

Albert Rivera

Rufían

The Andalusians are born where we want lol

[Lluna Plena]

Ethnicity isn't 'feelings.' Ethnicity isn't a choice. It's culture and blood. Is a Catalan no longer Catalan if he isn't a separartist? That would be absurd. Imagine someone whose grandparents migrated to Catalonia from Aragon telling someone who is 100% Catalan or 50% Catalan they aren't being very Catalan if they don't want independence. The idea of it is absurd.

It's amusing how before Spain's economic collapse you rarely heard of Catalan independence. It was a fringe movement. This all revolves around economics. It has nothing to do with real nationalism.

Yes. At this moment, living a very serious conflict between Catalonia andSpain, I do consider non-independentist as non-Catalans...Why?...
Our nation (Catalonia), which is still viewed as a "region of Spain" worlwide, is suffering from repression...yes, R-E-P-R-E-S-I-O-N...(in the past, during Franco's dictatorship, and now from the Spanish Gouvernement). Our "Estatut" (which defines the rights and obligations of the citizens of Catalonia, the political institutions of the Catalan community, their competences and relations with the rest of Spain, and the financing of the Governmentof Catalonia, approved by our Catalan Parliament), was refused at the "Spanish Congress of Deputies" by the P.P.-People's Party; Our language (not a dialect, not a mixture of French and Spanish, nor a minority language), would be at risk of desappear in schools if Albert Rivera or Pablo Casado are President of Spain; all of our proporsals in front of the Spanish Courts have been rejected; we have suffered coercion, threats and violence (Referendum 1-october),political prisoners and exiles, absolutist and represif laws (155).We don't have the right to decide...I know people's arguments about that:the Spanish Constitution forvides the Referendum, and this, and that, and bla, bla, bla...The Spanish Constitution of 1978 is absolutely obsolet!. Only two trivial amendments have been implemented in 30 years!...pff.
Soif you ask me, the people who support all that and agree on keeping this state of repression, lack of freedom and disrespect for their own culture, language and history, that is to say:non-independentist, so yes, a Catalan is no longer Catalan if he isn't a separartist now, imao.
Remember, I live here and I'm faced daily with this reality.
Oh!, and the Catalan Independence movement isn't something new at all. It began in 1922.
https://www.eldiario.es/catalunya/op...192190786.html

[Gallop]

The xenophobic dictionary of Quim Torra, from A to Z



The writings published by the new president of the Generalitat de Catalunya contain comments of such caliber that border on the hate crime, foreseen in the Penal Code


Quim Torra president of the regional government of Catalonia and family.

DNA "The crosses [of the race of the Catalan socialist] with the race of the Spanish socialist were increasing and increasing until they even mutate the DNA of the natives." Today nothing is more equal to a Catalan socialist than a Spanish socialist. Catalan socialist race will be considered extinct, although, in a totally unscientific way, there are certain individuals who claim continuity. "

Beast. "Now you look at your country and see the beasts talking again, but they are of a different kind: scavengers, vipers, hyenas, beasts with human form, however, that exude hatred, a disturbed hatred, nauseating, as of dentures with Rust, against everything the language represents, they are here, among us, they are disgusted by any expression of Catalanness, it is a sick phobia, there is something Freudian in these beasts, or a small blip in their DNA chain, poor individuals! " .

Spanish. "You go out into the street and nothing indicates that this is the street of your parents and your grandparents: the Spanish advances, impeccable, voracious, very fast, you open the newspapers or watch television and talk about things that have nothing to do with you and your world".

Destination. "All alarms are sounding at the same time for our survival as a people, the ideological discussion can not be the axis that separates us, above it is the destiny of Catalonia, my political adversaries are all those who do not want the full sovereignty of our country, that is, for us to understand each other, those who do not want the Catalan flag to wave, either right, high, or alone in Military Captaincy. "

Spain. "Spain, essentially, has been an exporter of misery, materially and spiritually speaking, everything that has been touched by Spaniards has become a source of racial discrimination, social differences and underdevelopment."

April Fair). "Catalanism must be based on a fierce defense of our identity and our culture and the pride of being Catalan, or is it that you would play an independent Catalonia converted into a huge April Fair?"

Claw. "Now, just [Spain] you are a grotesque shadow, you let loose the last spasms in the form of requirements, diligences and confiscations, you do not give any fear, filthy beast, and that is why we can already look you in the eye, without lowering your head, without look away, and tell you: take your claws out of our urns! ".

History. "The modern and contemporary history of the Catalans is what happens while Spain abolishes its institutions, disables or imprisons politicians, etc."

Independence. "I have decided that I am only interested in the independence of my country and that I can not trust anyone who does not have it as a priority for tomorrow at eight in the morning."

José. "Sincerely, can anyone imagine that without the Franco regime we would have had a president named Jose and not Josep?"

Lengua. "Es el alma de la patria. Sin lengua no hay país. Y cuando se decide no hablar en catalán se está decidiendo dar la espalda a Cataluña".

Language. "It is the soul of the country, without a language there is no country, and when it is decided not to speak in Catalan, it is being decided to turn its back on Catalonia."

Mother. "The 'Motherland' [Spain] has ended up always devouring their children and has left them with the worst of inheritances: a counterfeit identity, an extirpated memory, mental suburbisation".

Natural. "No, it is not natural to speak in Spanish in Catalonia, not wanting to speak the language of the country is the uprooting, the provincialization, the persistent will not to assume the identity of where you live."

Occupy. "We have seen a State [Spain] willing to do whatever it takes, whatever it is, to continue occupying our country."

Homeland. "If we are Catalans, we can not be anything else, if we are the ones who form the Catalan homeland, we can not be part of another." Before the country, it's time to choose: land, flag, language, history, ways of life, humor. it is a state of mind and a certain way of being part of the world. "

Regime. "We are seeing [...] how all the putrid fauna that moves in the sewers of the improper State is displacing, insulting and threatening and using all the springs of the Francoist state that remained intact behind the papier-mache façade of the regime of 78" .

South. "There are people here who have said enough and, each in his own way, fights for ideas and a country, people who have already forgotten to look south and look north again, where people are clean, noble, free and cultured and happy. "

Three hundred. "For centuries, the Spanish state has successfully practiced a permanent siege against the Catalans." For 300 years, by right of conquest, the most elemental rights of the Catalan nation have been systematically violated, like any other nation conquered over the years. The list of what 300 years of submission have meant is so endless that I leave it to the reader to think for a moment ... 300 years ago that Spain decides in our place and there are still those who roll up their sleeves to throw them a hand from Catalonia. "

Unionism "Unionism has taken refuge in sentimentality and forsakes the battle of arguments [...] Thus we have been able to overcome unionist slogans as poor and intellectually nineteenth-century as 'legality' or 'constitutional framework', avoiding falling into the trap of the sterile debates of the third-viólogos, recent mutation of the federalists but that preserve their same DNA ".

Will. "Let's see if we understand each other." The Franco regime was a blow against the Catalan civilization from which we have not yet recovered. [...] Forty years of persecution and censorship of Catalan, of persistent annihilation of the Catalan identity, of will genocidal against a people, of destruction of the landscape, of massive emigrations, of ill concealed intention to fracture the country socially, of a brutal economic centralization, of absolute provincialization, of mental suburbialization, does not all this count? "

Xavier (Room i Martín). "This is the time that we have not heard a single argument to continue one more day in Spain other than fear, legality or expulsion to the cosmos or desert islands (when someone has exceptionally put a piece of information on the table, see Josep Borrell, the counter-arguments from the pro-independence side have been devastating - Xavier Sala i Martín, for example).

Shoemaker. "A cousin of mine, outdated and old, told me that we only needed to find out that Mr. Zapatero, in fact, was not Barça either." Zapatero's last lie to surface, as all the others float in the eyes of Everyone is wrong, of course At this point, Zapatero, dressed in the colors of Betis or, even worse, Spanish, would respond, so calm, so polite, so captivating ... ".

https://www.elespanol.com/opinion/tr...339266_12.html

[Gallop]

Jordi Pujol, on the Andalusians living in Catalonia: "they live in a state of ignorance and cultural, mental and spiritual misery"



These were the words: bleeding, aggressive and insulting Jordi Pujol addressed to the Andalusian man:

The Andalusian man is not a coherent man, he is an anarchic man. He is a man destroyed (...) he is, generally, a little man made, a man who for hundreds of years has gone hungry and lives in a state of ignorance and cultural, mental and spiritual misery. He is an uprooted man, incapable of having a little broad sense of community. It often gives evidence of an excellent human wood, but from the outset it constitutes the sample of the lowest social and spiritual value in Spain. I have said it before: it is a destroyed and anarchic man. If by force of the number it were able to dominate, without having overcome its own perplexity, it would destroy Catalonia. And he would introduce his anarchic and very poor mentality, that is, his lack of mentality.

Andalusian man
Juan García Postigo

Dwarf what did you say about me?

[Gallop]

Catalan politicians

Another politician like Artur Mas, former president of the Generalitat, affirmed a series of words of that style against the Andalusian and Galician children. When asked about bilingualism in his community, the president said that Catalan children had the same grades in Spanish as those of other communities. Then he added: "not to mention Seville, Malaga or La Coruña, because there they speak Spanish, in fact, but sometimes some are not understood". Again a mess; But he apologized if someone had been offended, but regretted that his words had been taken out of context and had "exaggerated", when the intention was to make a "casual statement without the intention to offend."




Dolors Bassa, then Councilor for Labor, Social Affairs and Family of the Generalitat, currently in preventive detention for the procès, responds to a question from the opposition saying that many of the children who snort glue in certain areas of Barcelona "come from Ceuta and Andalusia". He also had to apologize, although he did so saying that at no time had he said that they were Andalusians, but that they came from the Maghreb and were not looked after by the Junta de Andalucía.


Andalusian children of which the regionalist xenophobic politicians dare to speak. They are minors but they do not even respect that they are children.

https://www.20minutos.es/noticia/346...nos-andalucia/

Stop privileges

[Gallop]

More separatist attacks on children from the rest of Spain

An ICV councilor invites 'sponsor children from Extremadura'

The Catalan councilor has apologized for the statements on his blog and says he joked


Two semi-nude children ask for 'help' in Catalonia for Extremadura

https://cadenaser.com/ser/2008/07/30...17_850215.html